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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    adne wrote: »
    Any recommendations lm or ch relatively easy calving for a lm muscly 2nd calver. Most lm bulls seem to be lacking in skeleton figures

    Cwi/Lzf


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭adne


    Cwi/Lzf

    Both under 50% skeletal rank within breed. Looking to add a bit of size


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    adne wrote: »
    Both under 50% skeletal rank within breed. Looking to add a bit of size

    I dont see too many tall bulls around. They are tall in my experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭tanko


    Dromanig King LM4302 looks good, not proven for easy calving yet i suppose tho.

    Would Bivouac be an option?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭tanko


    adne wrote: »
    Both under 50% skeletal rank within breed. Looking to add a bit of size

    Those skeletal % figures are a bit weird tho. Both On-Dit and FZF are 115 skeletal at 62% for breed. Both breed big long cattle and are size improvers.
    A Lim bull at 100% skeletal would look like a giraffe imo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    adne wrote: »
    Both under 50% skeletal rank within breed. Looking to add a bit of size

    Height is only a part of skeletal figure


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    I think someone back along here said lm2014 was a good a alternative to ZAG

    Looks the part on paper anyhow. Anyone much experience? I think zag is a waste of getting ai man out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Looks the part on paper anyhow. Anyone much experience? I think zag is a waste of getting ai man out.

    Zag's a muscle machine imo even though hes short,similiar to fiston


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Looks the part on paper anyhow. Anyone much experience? I think zag is a waste of getting ai man out.

    Ivor is very easy calved. You'd want a bit of size in the heifer though. Doves have a few nice bulls. They have a nice bull by highlander too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Zag's a muscle machine imo even though hes short,similiar to fiston

    Work well with tall LM cows


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Have many used Gurka, would you use him again


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Have many used Gurka, would you use him again

    Used a good bit of him when he came on scene first. Very hot and cold


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Used a good bit of him when he came on scene first. Very hot and cold

    Thanks
    Saw an ad recently & had a thought that he looked a good option


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Thanks
    Saw an ad recently & had a thought that he looked a good option

    Ya he is a very impressive looking bull in fairness to him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭furandfeather


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    20 notes each.
    I bought 20 straws for mostly 10euro so I said 5 more at 20 euro ain't going to break me, although I'll bin the 4 escalop straws ;)

    I wouldn't be one bit afraid using escalop. I've never had any sort of hard calving of him yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Pedigree Escalope heifer calved a few days ago. Huge hips and room and loads of milk. I'm definitely going to use him more. I think that his figures are out. He must have been used on to many Heifers or to many apz stock that can't calve.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,738 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    She looks a smasher.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭furandfeather


    Pedigree Escalope heifer calved a few days ago. Huge hips and room and loads of milk. I'm definitely going to use him more. I think that his figures are out. He must have been used on to many Heifers or to many apz stock that can't calve.

    That's a powerful looking heifer. What did she have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    I wouldn't be one bit afraid using escalop. I've never had any sort of hard calving of him yet

    Cheers, I got 12 dickens, 4 haribo, 4 escalop and 5 sunnyboy.
    What are the best saler bull for heifers that will make good cows. Or should I ask what saler should I stay away from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    That's a powerful looking heifer. What did she have?

    She had a nice handy size popes Barclay heifer.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    She had a nice handy size popes Barclay heifer.

    Lovely stock.

    Those are some high security pens you got there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭tanko


    Thats some tank of a cow in the next pen, what is she off?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭adne


    Height is only a part of skeletal figure

    I know. I said I was looking to add size never mentioned height


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Lovely stock.

    Those are some high security pens you got there!

    Lol they were at the front of the shed before I put a lean two on it. They are to good for that job. I've a better place for them next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    tanko wrote: »
    Thats some tank of a cow in the next pen, what is she off?

    Thanks, she's a good cow. Glebefarm Tyson commercial cow. Some girl to calve every year and milk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭furandfeather


    She had a nice handy size popes Barclay heifer.

    Very nice. That's the first Barclay calf I've seen. Is he a polly or am I mixing him up with another bull?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Very nice. That's the first Barclay calf I've seen. Is he a polly or am I mixing him up with another bull?

    Cheers, No not Polly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭milligan2


    High bike wrote: »
    15% cd jaysus I hope ur good with a calving jack.Anyone any Goldie’s Jackpot calves yet 8.8 % cd?.

    Had a Jackpot bull calf this morning and had a good pull,no jack though.Huge calf but Mom has good wide hips.Id be careful with him on small cows,when I felt the front legs I thought it might be a vet job.Savage calf though,great quarters


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    milligan2 wrote: »
    Had a Jackpot bull calf this morning and had a good pull,no jack though.Huge calf but Mom has good wide hips.Id be careful with him on small cows,when I felt the front legs I thought it might be a vet job.Savage calf though,great quarters

    Cant bw that much of a pull without a jack


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  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭milligan2


    Two men on the calving chains,jack is supposed to be worth 6 men,you do the maths.


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