Gerry and Kate Mcann promoting Book on Late Late next week

RichieC

Einhard wrote: »

Do you have evidence that they have profited financially from her death? If so, I'll retract my words and join you in staying it to their face.

libel cases alone made them millionaires.

ilovelamp2000

Einhard wrote: »

Do you have evidence that they have profited financially from her death? If so, I'll retract my words and join you in staying it to their face.

Otherwise, what we have is two parents seeking to raise as much money as possible in order to further the search for their midding child. The problem, it seems, is that they're not behaving as people expect them to behave, and adapting to the grieving parents stereotype. And, as is so often the case, guilt is implied when people fail to conform to expectations. Again, if you can show me that they have gained financially from her disappearance, I'll eat my words.

They admitted to using donations made to help find their daughter on their mortgage. They got a nice libel award as well somewhere along the line too (as did others)

And now there is the book. They're well in profit already.

Turtyturd

Einhard wrote: »

Yeah, that's true. They were irresponsible in leaving their children alone. But how many of our parents had moments of irresponsibility in raising us? Just the other day, a thread was started in AH concerning a mother who left her child alone in the car as she popped into a shop. It happens all the time, to the best of parents, and it's entirely unfair to base an entire hudgement of character on one act.

It happens all the time, yet how many of those kids go missing?...It's not a regular occurrence yet on the one night they did it somebody took the risk of breaking into their apartment that they didn't know was free of adults and disappeared with her...I call shenanigans.

Einhard

TheZohan wrote: »

No, it doesn't.

Yes it does. Good parents make idiotic decisions sometimes.

Bobeagleburger

Einhard wrote: »

Yes it does. Good parents make idiotic decisions sometimes.

Not that idiotic.

efb

Einhard wrote: »

Yes it does. Good parents make idiotic decisions sometimes.

Yeah, the interview with Sky, they should have held out for Fox!

PinkFly

no matter what the circumstancesi would never leave my son alone to go out for something to eat.....at home....abroad... ever

i know ppl dont behave the way we expect them to...

but it does seem odd that they never admitted they were a little bit in the wrong..... ever

phasers

^ The 'find Maddie' fund was used to pay off their mortgage in the UK, and paid for a private villa in Portugal. It also pays for a private creche for their other children since they can't be bothered to look after them themselves. I read this in the paper a couple of years back so I can't provide links, sorry. This book she has written isn't being given away for free, it costs £22. Which goes in their pockets.

brummytom

Einhard wrote: »

Yeah, that's true. They were irresponsible in leaving their children alone. But how many of our parents had moments of irresponsibility in raising us? Just the other day, a thread was started in AH concerning a mother who left her child alone in the car as she popped into a shop. It happens all the time, to the best of parents, and it's entirely unfair to base an entire hudgement of character on one act.

They didn't leave her in the car while they popped into a shop for 5 minutes, they left 3 children alone in an apartment while they went for a meal. I don't know about you, but I've never been out for a meal that finished in under an hour.

Leaving children alone like that isn't justifiable at all, it's complete negligence. They should have been prosecuted just for that.

Einhard

rarnes1 wrote: »

Not that idiotic.

There have been a few instances in Ireland recently where parents left children in the car as they popped into the shop, only to have someone hop into the car and drive off with the kids. Absolutely idiotic of the parents, and potentially as tragic as anything that has befallen Maddie McCann, but I wouldn't condemn those involved as woeful parents because of one such act.

who the fug

im invisible wrote: »

well, she is the new hide and seek champion, since osama was found

No LORD Lucan still and Shergar are ahead

hondasam

Einhard wrote: »

Yeah, that's true. They were irresponsible in leaving their children alone. But how many of our parents had moments of irresponsibility in raising us? Just the other day, a thread was started in AH concerning a mother who left her child alone in the car as she popped into a shop. It happens all the time, to the best of parents, and it's entirely unfair to base an entire hudgement of character on one act.

They went for a meal and drinks and left their small children alone unsupervised. These are educated responsible adults. If they were from a poor estate in the UK they would have been charged with neglect.

MistyCheese

I might have some respect for Mr. & Mrs. McCann if they donated at least part of the fee from the book to help a Missing Children's charity. Try to help other parents who are going through what they ostensibly went through.

brummytom

phasers wrote: »

^ The 'find Maddie' fund was used to pay off their mortgage in the UK, and paid for a private villa in Portugal. It also pays for a private creche for their other children since they can't be bothered to look after them themselves. I read this in the paper a couple of years back so I can't provide links, sorry. This book she has written isn't being given away for free, it costs £22. Which goes in their pockets.

There's a story here about the mortgage:

Kate and Gerry McCann have used the £1million Find Madeleine fund to pay their mortgage, it was revealed yesterday.

Fund organisers refused to say how much had been spent but confirmed that money donated by the public was made available for the family's living expenses.


Payments: The McCanns have used part of the Find Madeleine fund to pay their mortgage

Neither has worked since Madeleine vanished on May 3, although Mr McCann is due to return to his £75,000-a-year post as a hospital consultant this week.

Mortgage repayments on the couple's £500,000 detached home in Rothley, Leicestershire, are believed to be £2,000 a month.

The Find Madeleine fund, which has received more than £1.09million in donations from all over the world, was set up primarily to fund a publicity campaign after the little girl vanished on May 3.

It also met legal fees involved in setting up the not-for-profit business, which does not have charitable status.

But the fund's directors - who include colleagues, friends and relatives of the McCanns - ruled that they cannot use it to pay the legal team defending them against Portuguese allegations that they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

Family home: The mortage repayments on the house in Rothley are believed to be around £2,000 a month

That has been met by a separate fund, using donations from wealthy benefactors including Sir Richard Branson.

The salary of the McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell is paid by another millionaire, double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy.

But the Find Madeleine fund has paid for other staff, including former campaign manager Justine McGuinness,

In the weeks after Madeleine's disappearance it paid for her parents' campaign trips to Madrid, Amsterdam, Berlin, Washington DC and the Moroccan capital, Rabat.

It was revealed last month that about £300,000 had been spent, and a further £80,000 was paid out this month for a new publicity campaign in Portugal, Spain and Morocco.

Donations have slowed dramatically, however, since the McCanns, both 39, were made official suspects in the case.

Fund: The campaign to find Madeleine has raised more than £1million

Exact details of where the money has gone will not be disclosed until the end of the financial year when the accounts are made public.

Fund officials said an administrator has been appointed to ensure "the highest standards of transparency and accountability".

Mr Mitchell said last night: "The fund exists to support Kate and Gerry where their living costs would become difficult.

"Gerry is going back to work this week and they hope they will not have to rely on it for their living costs for much longer."

The McCanns have said any surplus money from the fund would be given to charities to help families of other missing children.

Friends of the McCanns have said they are anxious to keep the fund's money for the campaign to find Madeleine.

They denied Mr McCann was returning to work for financial reasons, insisting he wanted to regain a "sense of normality".

He has been on unpaid leave and his wife, a part-time GP, has not been paid while she has been off work.

It is understood that Mr McCann will initially work three half-days a week at Leicester's Glenfields Hospital and will not have any direct contact with patients until his employers believe he is ready.

His return has been approved by the General Medical Council, which regulates the medical profession, but a senior heart specialist warned last night that it could put patients' lives at risk.

The consultant, who did not wish to be named, asked: "How will he be able to concentrate on his work with his daughter missing? It is a high-pressure job and you have to make difficult decisions.

"I can tell you from personal experience that if your mind is not totally on it, it is hard.

"If he is going to be doing procedures where you have to totally focus, the only way you can do it is compartmentalise and if you can't do it, it could be very difficult. He could break down and make a mistake."

The group Patient Concern said Mr McCann should be monitored for at least three months and the public should be able to choose not to be treated by him.

Director Roger Goss said: "It's a good idea he is allowed back, but he should be monitored to ensure he is all right.

"Patients should be allowed the option of not being treated by him while the case has such a high profile. I know it

yosemite_sam

Einhard wrote: »

Yes it does. Good parents make idiotic decisions sometimes.

Tubridy is worse giving them the time of day

ejmaztec

who the fug wrote: »

No LORD Lucan still and Shergar are ahead

No, I think Shergar lost it by a Whiskas.

theboss80

A little disturbed at alot of the comments im reading tbh

KeithAFC

The only person i feel sorry for is Madeline herself. These two imposters are a disgrace and should face jail time.

Darlughda

Einhard wrote: »

There have been a few instances in Ireland recently where parents left children in the car as they popped into the shop, only to have someone hop into the car and drive off with the kids. Absolutely idiotic of the parents, and potentially as tragic as anything that has befallen Maddie McCann, but I wouldn't condemn those involved as woeful parents because of one such act.

Did it not already come out that they had left the kids alone for nearly every night of the holidays while they had hours long dinner with friends??

RussellTuring

Gran Hermano wrote: »

I see RTE are also planning on having Derek Acorah on the same night as a guest.

I wonder how likely it is that Tubridy will turn to Acorah at some stage and say: "So, Derek, have you spoken to Maddie lately?".

PinkFly

and was she medicated or was that anoder rumor at the time????

Einhard

brummytom wrote: »

There's a story here about the mortgage:

Fair enough. When I read that first, I thought, you've all got a point. Then however, I read a little further. The article, and people's relating of it here, would suggest that the McCann's mortgage wa said off, or that a substantial amount was paid. That, I admit, would be pretty shocking. However, the article was published in October 2007. Maddie went missing in May of that year. That's a 6 month period. The article also states that the mortgage amounted to approx £2k a month. So, what we're really talking about here, is the payment of between £10-12k towards their mortgage. I don't think I would begruedge that to parents whose child was missing, and who were desperately seeking her return. It's certainly noting at all like the claims of "enrichment" that have been bandied about in the newspapers, and on this thread. £10k for a couple who earn well over $100k p/a between them? That's enrichment? Sorry, i don't buy that article, or those payments as evidence for the money hungry mcCanns, exploiting their daughter's disappearance for their own profit.


I'm willing to change my mind on this, but that article has established absolutely nothing of what people are contending here. Indeed, I'd argue it does something of the opposite.

Arnold Layne

BengaLover wrote: »

Ryan will be briefed beforehand on what NOT to ask, so he wont ask the diffucult questions.

I didn't realise that they were members of Fianna Fail

Aishae

theboss80 wrote: »

A little disturbed at alot of the comments im reading tbh

I got the impression from the start that quite a few people questioned the mcann's story but you couldnt really talk about it because at the end of the day something happened to maddie and it couldnt have been good. people questioned the mcanns leaving those kids alone when they were so young as well. but as they are still parents that had a child go missing no one really wanted to say it.

i guess time has changed things.

i do have sympathy for them. if they didnt hide her due to an accident for example - the accusations must hurt like hell. however if they DID have something to do with it all, and then go on to whip the media into a frenzy - well, given the shaky story you can understand people's anger too.
its not unheard of. look at that kidnapping story several years ago, where the mother hid the daughter and cried to the media.

while ive sympathy for the mcanns, its always been maddie who i felt for.

bad2dabone

Einhard wrote: »

Yes it does. Good parents make idiotic decisions sometimes.

I agree with you to an extent. But leaving 3 children under 4 years old, 120 yards away from you and out of your sight is beyond idiotic. It's mind boggling insanity. I could understand junkies leaving their kids alone like that, but educated doctors? Hard to believe. Very hard to believe.

Terry

Is that on tonight?
I hope he asks why they neglected to look after their children.

I was a complete jackass when I was 13, but was still able to take care of 1 year old twins for a few hours every second weekend.
They're in their 20's now. This shows that even a stupid 13 year old can keep children alive while the parents go out for a few drinks.

It's not even that hard. All you have to do is sit there and watch tv (or use the internets, to use some modern terminology). The children are normally asleep.

If a kidnapper calls to the door, just don't let them in.

If that seems like rocket science to some people, then could you please let me know of a college which hands out degrees in rocket science. I'd like to go to the moon.

Terry

Arnold Layne wrote: »

I didn't realise that they were members of Fianna Fail

No, he said RYAN will be briefed beforehand.
We can't have the national broadcaster having a show that will prevent FF being re-elected.
RTÉ is an FF company.
Everyone feels sorry for the child, but nobody is willing to point out that the parents are responsible for her disappearance.

dark crystal

I see there are people here quick to blame Maddie's parents for profiteering from her disappearance - yet, on this same forum, there are people defending John Venables right to privacy. Only on AH could you have people slating the McCanns and defending the rights of a child killer.

I suspect the McCanns would pay any amount of money to have their beautiful daughter back and they undoubtedly spend countless hours of every day wishing they could go back to that evening and change what they did that night.

Laying the blame with a pair of grieving parents is beyond disgusting - no parent should ever have to go through that pain. No parent is perfect; we all make mistakes. I certainly don't begrudge those people one cent, when the likes of Venables get hundreds of thousands of tax payers money to protect them. If you don't agree with the McCanns choices, don't buy the book.

I hope beyond hope these poor people eventually get some closure on what happened to their child. I too would spend every cent I had searching for my child if I was in their situation.

ilovelamp2000

Einhard wrote: »

Fair enough. When I read that first, I thought, you've all got a point. Then however, I read a little further. The article, and people's relating of it here, would suggest that the McCann's mortgage wa said off, or that a substantial amount was paid. That, I admit, would be pretty shocking. However, the article was published in October 2007. Maddie went missing in May of that year. That's a 6 month period. The article also states that the mortgage amounted to approx £2k a month. So, what we're really talking about here, is the payment of between £10-12k towards their mortgage. I don't think I would begruedge that to parents whose child was missing, and who were desperately seeking her return. It's certainly noting at all like the claims of "enrichment" that have been bandied about in the newspapers, and on this thread. £10k for a couple who earn well over $100k p/a between them? That's enrichment? Sorry, i don't buy that article, or those payments as evidence for the money hungry mcCanns, exploiting their daughter's disappearance for their own profit.


I'm willing to change my mind on this, but that article has established absolutely nothing of what people are contending here. Indeed, I'd argue it does something of the opposite.

Only if you're a bit mental does it do the opposite.

cassid

I feel sorry for poor little Maddie, whatever has happened to the little pet.

As a mum of a 2 & 4 yr old, I could never leave my children on their own, my 4 yr old would have a heart attack if he woke up and discovered we were not around and the 2 yr old would have a field day destroying everything. Children this age are just too young to be left unsupervised and thats the part I don't understand.