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''Leader's'' Debate - TV3 - 8.00PM

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    #122
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I really wish they would stop talking so much about what has happened in the past (bank guarantees etc) and explain their policies for the future as to what will get us out of the mess we are in now.


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    #123
    ionapaul
    Registered Users Posts: 5,293 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    gambiaman wrote: »
    Christ, that is the most wrong post I've ever seen!
    The man you think is the saviour has been part of cabinet for 14 years - he is responsible as much as Ahern, Cowen, McCreevy, Harney, lenihan.
    +1,000,000


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    #124
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Voltwad wrote: »
    Martin is not contributing anything constructive whatsoever.

    Translation: My man is losing. Feck.

    :D


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    #125
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    TV3 website had Gilmore at 62/100 and Martin at 53/100 at the break.

    Updated just there, now equal at 53%.

    FG website has live stream of Kenny's speech in Leitrim. Terrible stream though.


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    #126
    jonnyfingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I really wish they would stop talking so much about what has happened in the past (bank guarantees etc) and explain their policies for the future as to what will get us out of the mess we are in now.

    I think the problem is neither party really have a clue what to do about the future and talking about it would only show that.


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    #127
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,038 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    funkyflea wrote: »
    The approval ratings say it all, really.

    Gilmore 54%
    Martin 46%

    Source...


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    #128
    Gonzovision
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzovision


    Shocked by how poor Gilmore is. He has an arsenal of stuff to hit Martin with. Only one winner tonight, Kenny


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    #129
    wyndhurst
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    gambiaman wrote: »
    Christ, that is the most wrong post I've ever seen!
    The man you think is the saviour has been part of cabinet for 14 years - he is responsible as much as Ahern, Cowen, McCreevy, Harney, lenihan.

    FFS...all their policies are the same, they are all handcuffed by the bailout terms....all we have left is to have a leader that at least can communicate and not look like a complete TURKEY (aka Gilmore & Inda)


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    #130
    runman
    Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭runman


    Poor eamon looks like a rabbit in the headlights...FF have figured out how to win these debates..keep throwing figures at them and keep talking from the "experience" of being in power...Makes poor eamon look like a right greenhorn...:(


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    #131
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    gambiaman wrote: »
    Christ, that is the most wrong post I've ever seen!
    The man you think is the saviour has been part of cabinet for 14 years - he is responsible as much as Ahern, Cowen, McCreevy, Harney, lenihan.

    Yes because the Cabinet was given free reign not controlled tightly by Ahern/Cowen. Oh, and McCreevy wanted to go to Europe after all. Etc.


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    #132
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    He can interrupt him because Gilmore is surprisingly weak. If he is what we have to look to - to go to the EU and bat on our behalf - then don't hold your breath for a good outcome.

    Well cripes we know what we get from Martin et al disaster and more disaster. Gilmore should ask him about his 90k


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    #133
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Taking the piss with these ads.


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    #134
    deelite
    Registered Users Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    RubyRoss wrote: »
    Screw the debate ... Martin's tie is giving me a headache - Purple stripes!

    Matches his eyes :D


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    #135
    The Pontiac
    Registered Users Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    Martin is one of the most annoying politicans ever.

    I can't believe how bad Gilmore is here. Jesus Gilmore, you're up against the FF leader, the party who bankrupt the country. You should be killing him here.


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    #136
    Deepwell
    Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Deepwell


    Just looking at the NI tourism add - they have it easy up there - at least its easy to differentiate the SF - DUP policies.


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    #137
    The Volt
    Registered Users Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭The Volt


    nesf wrote: »
    Translation: My man is losing. Feck.

    :D

    He's doing alright


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    #138
    highgiant1985
    Registered Users Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Source...

    its from tv3 website part of their live in running stuff

    http://www.tv3.ie/election2011-like-o-meter.php


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    #139
    Chipboard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭Chipboard


    A debate isn't a good way to decide this. Gilmore is not doing particularly well but lets face it he couldn't do any worse than FF in government.

    For Chrissake Martin asked him a question at one point and when he answered Martin accused him of interrupting.... and he got away with it. Then he accused him of acting unilaterally by stating that it was either Frankfurts way or Labours way - that isn't acting unilaterally, its a true statement. If Labour wants it one way and Frankfurth want it the other way than the fact is that it will be either Frankfurts way or Labours way.


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    #140
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Did these guys learn nothing from Obama? Look into the camera when you're talking ffs!


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    #141
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Source...

    TV 3 Website


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    #142
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    It disappoints me greatly that this has been mostly rhetoric so far, but sure when has a political debate ever been about informing the viewer anyway.


    Agreed.
    The format frontline had is the one I hope RTEand TG4 use when they get their debates going - a running commentary from an economics/education/business guy after each person speaks.

    The first part of this didn't really educate me at all.


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    #143
    the untitled user
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭the untitled user


    Very very disappointing. It's all just pointless emotive statements and sweeping generalisations.


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    #144
    Drumpot
    Registered Users Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I really wish they would stop talking so much about what has happened in the past (bank guarantees etc) and explain their policies for the future as to what will get us out of the mess we are in now.

    That wouldnt be something that helps Gilemores argument (keeping debate about what happened). .

    Watch him constantly try to bring things back to how FF ruined the country . . Not saying the statement isnt true, just doesnt mean people should have any confidence that he has the answers (if his answers are to just attack FF).


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    #145
    eoinbn
    Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Duckworth_Luas wrote: »
    TV3 website had Gilmore at 62/100 and Martin at 53/100 at the break.

    Updated just there, now equal at 53%.

    FG website has live stream of Kenny's speech in Leitrim. Terrible stream though.

    Given the hatred towards FF that's a win for Martin.

    Martin has decided that a good offense is the best defense and it has worked fairly well so far.


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    #146
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    It's funny how Martin can ignore the past and confront people like this ,the guy has no shame and will shaft us again given half a chance.


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    #147
    Eliot Rosewater
    Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    The way forward - construction. What could possibly go wrong?


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    #148
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Did these guys learn nothing from Obama? Look into the camera when you're talking ffs!


    Sorry but different format.

    In US they stand behind podiums and then answer direct question put to them by host. There doesn't be a whole lot of interaction with each other.

    In this they are debating against each other......would be strange to look away from your opponent and at camera.


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    #149
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Voltwad wrote: »
    He's doing alright

    Not if you have a good understanding of economics he's not.


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    #150
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Kenny the real winner here. Let the two boys achieve nowt.


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    #151
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Lets build more schools with more teachers and add to our Public sector bill? Ugh.


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