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''Leader's'' Debate - TV3 - 8.00PM

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    #92
    nanook
    Registered Users Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭nanook


    LuckyGent88 wrote: »
    Go on Vinny, stick it to them

    All vb is doing is sitting like a plum in the suit. Don't rate the man much.


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    #93
    telekon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Gilmore coming back.

    No FF'er can defend the bailout...


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    #94
    cornbb
    Registered Users Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Le King wrote: »
    Martin will wipe Gillmore and Kenny clean. But it won't make a difference for FF because the voters want them out.

    Gillmore/Kenny scares me. The country is fcuked.

    FG/Labour are still unknown quantities, I find it unlikely that they could fcuk things up as much as FF have. Distrust/dislike of FG/Labour seems to be the primary reason that some people are still planning on voting for FF, which sickens me.

    There's an obvious massive lack of political talent in this country, the best thing we can do right now is boot out those that have proven themselves to be useless and cross our fingers and give the other crowd a chance.

    Hate to admit it but Martin is debating well. Maybe Enda was wise to keep away.


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    #95
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Yeah, Martin is beating Gilmore around the place, but Gilmore's quite awful anyway so thats not too tricky.

    Mind you its going on to the banking guarantee now, so Martin is going to have to defend the stupidest decision in the history of the state. Hes going to suffer as a result.


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    #96
    Deepwell
    Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Deepwell


    MM must have bought new shoes - still seems to have label on the sole or maybe its his policy document.....


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    #97
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    FF to remain the same.

    I reckon FF will get a bump from this. A lot of people are looking for any reason to vote for Fianna Fáil.


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    #98
    ionapaul
    Registered Users Posts: 5,293 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Martin is definitely a much better debater than Gilmore (or Kenny) - as would Haughey, Cowen and Ahern be in the same situation. I really hope that people don't base their voting preferences on power of rhetoric or ability to best an opponent in a debate; that would be beyond retarded! We don't need the smoothest talker or better liar in government; we've done that long enough and the country is already completely fcuked as a result.


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    #99
    wdmfapq4zs83hv
    Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭wdmfapq4zs83hv


    Drumpot wrote: »
    the saddest thing is that people would vote for Martin as prob the most credible/able leader were he not with FF.

    All Gilmore can do (was it ever in doubt), is remind us all of the mess FF made.

    It is kind of sad and to be honest if Kenny were there, I imagine Martin would completely mop up.

    I agree with this, its actually a pity he is in FF. He's surprisingly better than I thought. He is coming across better than Gilmore unfortunately, but I still will never vote FF


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    #100
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Gilmore direct hitting now - Ff selectively quote honohan and have done for teh past year.


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    #101
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    telekon wrote: »
    Gilmore coming back.

    No FF'er can defend the bailout...

    That Gilmore needs the bailout of the banks to come back in this debate speaks volumes tbh.


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    #102
    Balmed Out
    Registered Users Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    i wish martin has leader of fg


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    #103
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    nanook wrote: »
    All vb is doing is sitting like a plum in the suit. Don't rate the man much.

    This is not a Vincent Browne show......he is only chairing the debate....putting questions to them and keep them in time.

    He won't be offering any opinions or retorts.


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    #104
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Martin has nothing to offer just criticizes everything Labour propose and constantly interrupts Gilmore.


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    #105
    ascanbe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    bryaner wrote: »
    I certainly aint an FF supporter but Martin is using Gilmore as a mop to clean the floor.

    The OP is obviously a troll; you seem serious, though. Are you sure you ain't a FF supporter?


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    #106
    wyndhurst
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    telekon wrote: »
    Gilmore coming back.

    No FF'er can defend the bailout...

    He just did and nailed the reality that everyone else would have made the exact same decision if placed in the position of the banks being empty within days.......


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    #107
    Leslie91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Vinny has to control this better. MM is being allowed way too much leeway. Gilmore not looking good.


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    #108
    Jimbo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    nanook wrote: »
    All vb is doing is sitting like a plum in the suit. Don't rate the man much.

    He's acting as Moderator. He's not supposed to get involved in the debate.


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    #109
    Kimono-Girl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    ah Micheál is making his credit union point...


    he is wiping the floor at this debate no wonder Enda's running scared he would have shown FG's policies up for what they really are, rather then the spin FG are putting on it.


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    #110
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    Jaysus, MM is wiping the floor with him.

    If we could have him a Taoiseach without the rest of the FF muppets we'd be much better off.
    As the leader of the country we need someone who can 'sell the dream' and create some badly needed confidence.

    Inda must be bricking it....


    Christ, that is the most wrong post I've ever seen!
    The man you think is the saviour has been part of cabinet for 14 years - he is responsible as much as Ahern, Cowen, McCreevy, Harney, lenihan.


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    #111
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    ionapaul wrote: »
    Martin is definitely a much better debater than Gilmore (or Kenny) - as would Haughey, Cowen and Ahern be in the same situation. I really hope that people don't base their voting preferences on power of rhetoric or ability to best an opponent in a debate; that would be beyond retarded! We don't need the smoothest talker or better liar in government; we've done that long enough and the country is already completely fcuked as a result.

    They Will though. That is the problem!

    That is why FF have held the majority vote for so many years, they have brilliant bull****ters.

    Each Party in fairness, need a good public speaker.


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    #112
    RubyRoss
    Registered Users Posts: 302 ✭✭RubyRoss


    Screw the debate ... Martin's tie is giving me a headache - Purple stripes!


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    #113
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Its as bad as Ireland vs Wales, and thats bad believe me.

    Kenny did the right thing staying away from these two idiots, hope he gets an overall majority.


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    #114
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    It disappoints me greatly that this has been mostly rhetoric so far, but sure when has a political debate ever been about informing the viewer anyway.


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    #115
    Chucky the tree
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    Kimono-Girl wrote: »
    ah Micheál is making his credit union point...


    he is wiping the floor at this debate no wonder Enda's running scared he would have shown FG's policies up for what they really are, rather then the spin FG are putting on it.


    If the past week is anything to go by MM would be complimenting Enda on how great his policies are.


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    #116
    sollar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭sollar


    Gilmores false teeth sound loose. He's doing ok though.


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    #117
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    Labour are getting the roasting they deserve ,Martin hasn't brought anything of his own to the table. So I can't see how he makes any difference.


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    #118
    fifth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    The approval ratings say it all, really.

    Gilmore 54%
    Martin 46%


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    #119
    The Volt
    Registered Users Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭The Volt


    Martin is not contributing anything constructive whatsoever.


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    #120
    dsmythy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,508 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    So masterstroke by Kenny. Labour could lose some votes :D Though I doubt he planned it.


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    #121
    wyndhurst
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Martin has nothing to offer just criticizes everything Labour propose and constantly interrupts Gilmore.

    He can interrupt him because Gilmore is surprisingly weak. If he is what we have to look to - to go to the EU and bat on our behalf - then don't hold your breath for a good outcome.


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