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Your 1000m row time!

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    #32
    ApeXaviour
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    DM-ICE wrote: »
    I don't use the rower often, normally do 2000m when I do, depending on the mood it takes anywhere between 8.15 and 8.40, nothing special. But I now the first 1000 is usually done under 4 mins.

    I will try the 1000m as a stand alone and see how I go.
    Same


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    #33
    Maars
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    Mellor wrote: »
    Club level?

    I had a look at the world records, 14th on the list is 6:42.5


    Maybe i'm missing something.

    It comes down to age, weight, height, 6.40 is a good effort for a lightweight masters rower, but it's not quite as impressive for a guy who is 90kg, 6 foot 3 and 25yrs old.

    Not sure where you are seeing the world records but I doubt it is a well maintained list. The first 13 in the Irish Indoors (Open Mens event i.e. BWT > 75kgs)last year all went under 6:40. There were plenty more sub 6:40 in the vets and lightweight categories too.


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    #34
    Dale Parish
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    Mellor wrote: »
    Club level?

    I had a look at the world records, 14th on the list is 6:42.5


    Maybe i'm missing something.

    Have a look at this site; provides fairly decent amount of info including Irish records.
    http://concept2.co.uk/records/2000_world


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    #35
    Chet Zar
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    Did a 4:21 today in the gym. Would say I could have pushed a good lot more though. Getting under 4 minutes is my first target anyway.


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    #36
    Molly
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    Between 2 and 3 minutes
    3:40 during a WOD on Monday.


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    #37
    Chet Zar
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    Molly wrote: »
    3:40 during a WOD on Monday.

    Nice...which WOD was it?


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    #38
    Numb.Muzik
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    20 seconds with an outboard motor :)


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    #39
    Molly
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    Between 2 and 3 minutes
    Just 1000m row followed by 21-15-9 Deadlifts & Burpees


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    #40
    AntiVirus
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    Between 2 and 3 minutes
    I did 2km in 7:18 the other day and almost fainted while I was rowing :o

    I've never done just 1km but it would be under 4 minutes.


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    #41
    The Guvnor
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    jugger0 wrote: »
    I told my friend my time, hes a rower, and he said it was good for a rugby player but nothing special!

    LOL - he's a bit off the mark tbh even from a rowing perspective.

    For a lightweight (sub 75kg) 6m40 is a very respectable time.#
    For a heavyweight 6m24 or so is a good bench mark.

    As you're a non rower it's very good!:)


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    #42
    petroltimer
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    Dale Parish wrote: »
    Have a look at this site; provides fairly decent amount of info including Irish records.
    http://concept2.co.uk/records/2000_world

    just saw Matthew Pinsent time of 5:42.3 amazing difference between pros and amateurs, but he is a monster 6ft5 & 17 stone


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    #43
    jugger0
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    Did my first 1k today got 3:10, im going to try and get it below 3 minutes hopefully. I have to say my glutes were killing me, so bad that afterwards i had to roll off the machine onto the floor... rowing is such a brutal brutal sport! new found respect for rowers ye must be mental! cant imagine doing a 5k or 10k....


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    #44
    L.S.F
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    Never really timed myself for just 1000m but would always be sub 4mins.

    Normally when I'm on the concept 2 i'll do 2500m and get just under 10mins, best was 9.20-something iirc a few years ago


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    #45
    The Guvnor
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    3m10 is a great time jugger0!

    1st attempt at this - 3m37.1 - this was very comfortable and stroke rate was 24 or less average.

    Could I have done a bit better - probably but I honestly doubt if last night I would have been able to do much under 3m30 if even - to be honest.

    I'm going to do this once a week and see if it goes down much if at all!

    Such a fine line between comfortable and not finishing and during the piece all I was thinking was how long a 100m can seem!:D


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    #46
    petroltimer
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    just wondering if anyone can explain the resistance 1-10 on the rowing machines, to go at your fastest does it need to be at 10?


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    #47
    faceman
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    petroltimer wrote: »
    just wondering if anyone can explain the resistance 1-10 on the rowing machines, to go at your fastest does it need to be at 10?

    This article is useful to explain best setting for you.

    http://concept2.co.uk/training/answers?id=12


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    #48
    AntiVirus
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    petroltimer wrote: »
    just wondering if anyone can explain the resistance 1-10 on the rowing machines, to go at your fastest does it need to be at 10?

    It's all up to what you feel is best suited to you. 10 will be harder to pull but your stroke will cover a big distance, level 4 will be easier to pull but your stroke will cover a smaller distance. Best to try it out and see what you like.

    Doing a stroke rate of 25 strokes per minute at level 4 does not mean you will cover the same distance as your identical brother sitting next to you pulling the same 25 strokes per minute at level 4. Its all about explosive power and an easy recovery.

    Next time you're doing your normal rowing routine keep an eye on your SPM and your estimated 500 metre time, then the next time see if you can lower your SPM but keep the same estimated 500 metre time. This will help you focus on good technique which will bring your times down. This is what I'm doing a the moment.


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    #49
    Smyth
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    Just to clarify here, we're talking about the rowing machines yes? I usually switch between it and the treadmill for my cardio. I've never payed much attention to the numbers. Just try and keep some figure above 900. That seems to do it. So for a guy, 6'1, 13.5stone I should be looking at getting under what? 5, 6 mins. If I'm doing a short warmup it might be for about 5mins. Pretty sure it was over 1000m. I'll check in detail next time.


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    #50
    ApeXaviour
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    Smyth wrote: »
    Just to clarify here, we're talking about the rowing machines yes? I usually switch between it and the treadmill for my cardio. I've never payed much attention to the numbers. Just try and keep some figure above 900. That seems to do it. So for a guy, 6'1, 13.5stone I should be looking at getting under what? 5, 6 mins. If I'm doing a short warmup it might be for about 5mins. Pretty sure it was over 1000m. I'll check in detail next time.
    You should have very little trouble getting under 5 mins if you try. I got 3.50 yesterday and I'm shorter, lighter and not really that fit, esp with all the beer and (stupidly) tobacco over xmas.


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    #51
    Smyth
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    Timed it today. 4:00. That was after a hard running session too. Could shave a good bit off.


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    #52
    Chet Zar
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    Gadzooks! 4:30ish in gym today at start of workout. Thought was on track to do better than last time during the row! Gotta push more at start of the 1k I reckon.


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    #53
    Mellor
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    Between 2 and 3 minutes
    maars wrote:
    It comes down to age, weight, height, 6.40 is a good effort for a lightweight masters rower, but it's not quite as impressive for a guy who is 90kg, 6 foot 3 and 25yrs old.

    Not sure where you are seeing the world records but I doubt it is a well maintained list. The first 13 in the Irish Indoors (Open Mens event i.e. BWT > 75kgs)last year all went under 6:40. There were plenty more sub 6:40 in the vets and lightweight categories too.
    I checked the offcail list on the concept2 site.
    I think the problems the times set at a lot of indoors compa aren't recognaised as concept2 have pretty strict criteria for official times.


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    #54
    TheZ
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    Are you supposed to use the foot straps on the concept2. I recently stopped using them on basis of something I read about recovery stroke should be the cable pulling you back in and not using feet to pull you back in

    Any views on if that is correct?


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    #55
    steve9859
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    Less than 2 minutes
    petroltimer wrote: »
    just wondering if anyone can explain the resistance 1-10 on the rowing machines, to go at your fastest does it need to be at 10?

    Resistance is not the same on all machines. It depends on age, how clean they are, and how well maintained. Having the fan on 5 on one machine may not be the same as on 5 on the machine next to it.

    Use the 'drag factor' to be consistent. You will find it in 'other options' on the concept 2. This shows how much the fan slows down between strokes. Heavyweight men will typically do their tests on 130 or 135, lightweight men and heavyweight women 120-125, and lightweight women around 110-115. It is your personal preference where u set it if u r a gym rower, but this drag factor will allow u to be consistent across machines of different ages. A 130 drag on (which I use as a 6 foot 4 former rower) might have the fan at 8 on one machine and 5 on another

    Incidentally I am always amazed that personal trainers and gym instructors rarely know of this basic functionality!!


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    #56
    petroltimer
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    well i did the 1000m last night 3:42, i don't know if i did a long enough warm up, i did 5 minutes on a cross country ski thing, but after the row i was sick in the stomach it took me about 20mins before i was able to do anything else as i was worried i was going to throw up :)


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    #57
    The Guvnor
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    TheZ wrote: »
    Are you supposed to use the foot straps on the concept2. I recently stopped using them on basis of something I read about recovery stroke should be the cable pulling you back in and not using feet to pull you back in

    Any views on if that is correct?

    Kind of - if you do not fall off with your feet out of the straps then it means your body is in the correct position as in hands away leaning forward during the recovery.

    However in rowing terms on the recovery you are thinking of you pulling the boat underneath you instead of you moving forward.

    If you move forward in a choppy/too fast motion you can 'check' the boat and actually slow it down.


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    #58
    Molly
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    Anyone of you able to explain to me why when I go faster than 1:35 for 500m i fall off the seat (Calling me a clown isn't a helpful answer :D )?


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    #59
    d'Oracle
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    Molly wrote: »
    Anyone of you able to explain to me why when I go faster than 1:35 for 500m i fall off the seat (Calling me a clown isn't a helpful answer :D )?

    There was something on that in the journal I think.


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    #60
    steve9859
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    Molly wrote: »
    Anyone of you able to explain to me why when I go faster than 1:35 for 500m i fall off the seat (Calling me a clown isn't a helpful answer :D )?

    I presume your are firing up and down the slide like the clappers, and the chain is shaking around to try to get below 1.35. You are falling off cause u r losing control of the sequence of the stroke. Your back has to be connected to the fan, and you should start to feel the weight of the fan through your straight arms, shoulders and back b4 u push with your legs. If your arms are bent or you push with your legs before you have picked up the load then you will likely fall off.

    What I would recommend is to look at the stroke sequence (concept 2 website is good) then do dome slow motion rowing to get that right. Then do some low rate rowing (18 strokes a minute or less) but pushing with your legs as hard as you can. Then when you have the feeling of loading up your back, holding it steady through the leg drive, before starting to lean back, then you can take up the rate. Because you have the sequence right you will generate more power, and get the split down further without losing control


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    #61
    Molly
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    Thanks for responding to this, let me provide you with a little more info about how I fall off the seat. It's not that I fall off to the side, it's more that my ass hops up off of the seat, then the seat slides a little too far or doesn't slide at all and I end up half on/half off the seat. By doing what you said will that be remedied?


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