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UPC offering 30Mbps broadband and problems with upgrade
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Once again, there is no packet loss, except in the case of pingtest.net.Because there is packet loss and that's not perfect.
pingtest works by sending 250 ping packets within a few seconds to your IP. Sending so many in such a short period is stupid as naturally enough the traffic ends up looking like a mini DoS attack. The router picks up on this and drops the echo, hence the silly numbers.
The proof that the firewall isn't actually dropping packets is quite simple (ignoring the fact that your connection would be unusable if it was actually dropping 90+% of packets).
Open up a command prompt and punch in 'ping -n 100 heanet.ie'. That basically does the same thing as pingtest in that it sends off 100 pings, except it (quite sensibly) only sends them once a second, hence doesn't resemble a flood attack so won't trigger flood protection. Here's my results:
0% packet loss with ip flood/firewall enabled. Precisely as you'd expect. The reason you are seeing high packet loss from pingtest is simply because pingtest is flawed.0 -
Once again, there is no packet loss, except in the case of pingtest.net.
pingtest works by sending 250 ping packets within a few seconds to your IP. Sending so many in such a short period is stupid as naturally enough the traffic ends up looking like a mini DoS attack. The router picks up on this and drops the echo, hence the silly numbers.
The proof that the firewall isn't actually dropping packets is quite simple (ignoring the fact that your connection would be unusable if it was actually dropping 90+% of packets).
Open up a command prompt and punch in 'ping -n 100 heanet.ie'. That basically does the same thing as pingtest in that it sends off 100 pings, except it (quite sensibly) only sends them once a second, hence doesn't resemble a flood attack so won't trigger flood protection. Here's my results:
0% packet loss with ip flood/firewall enabled. Precisely as you'd expect. The reason you are seeing high packet loss from pingtest is simply because pingtest is flawed.
Yup fair enough. All the same I'd keep my computers firewall up and not worry about the routers.0 -
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Landlord86 wrote: »Currently with Irishbroadband on a 4mb upload/download. Getting 4mb constantly and never recieved anything about download limits etc. And i download constantly.
Been thinking about changing for a while.
Wondering if its worth it to change to the 30mb.
few quick questions:
Is the upload speeds hindering?
what speed do you really get in stillorgan, dublin, on a regular basis?
Any word about download limts/typical user clauses etc?
the upload is between 2mb/s and 3mb/s max as far as i know
download limit is currently at 250GB with upc which is great is you download alot
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that makes no sense whatsoever. The SPI firewall on most routers will stop the overwhelming majority of incoming attacks before they ever make it to your software firewall and in the vast majority of cases it is your first and best line of defence against this type of attack and should not be disabled.Yup fair enough. All the same I'd keep my computers firewall up and not worry about the routers.
no, they're not 100% effective against every type of attack and are completely useless if someone on your LAN downloads a trojan (which is why you should also have a software firewall on all your PC's).
think of it as the 10 foot high electrified barbed wire perimeter wall & gate going around your property. even if your house itself has the best security in the world, it's still just one layer of protection if you leave your front gate wide open. and what happens if something goes wrong with your house security?
there's not a software firewall in the world that is 100% infallible either, like everything else in the computer world, they're not immune to having vulnerabilities that can be exploited or bugs that can cause them to fail entirely.
nobody is ever 100% safe from attack, but what you can do is make sure you're not a soft target and the only way to do that is with multiple layers of protection.
the CIA, FBI, NSA & NASA have all been hacked. do you honestly think a simple software firewall is going to keep you safe? where do you think the people who hacked those systems practised their 'art' before they went for the big ones?
multiple layers of protection is the only way to go.
a safer browser with ad-blocking etc. good antivirus, good antispyware, good software firewall, good router with SPI firewall and other security and if you have a bunch of PC's on the same connection a good filtering web proxy that you can add blacklists to is also a good idea.
several 99% effective methods of protection is going to do a damn sight more to keep you safe than one 99% effective layer.
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they're not exactly known for being the best over wireless. 20mbps is about normal going by what i've seen on here in the past.
bear in mind though that even under prefect conditions the best you can expect out of bog standard 802.11g is a sustained throughput of 30-35mbps due to the creative accounting of wireless manufacturers to 20mbps out of a crappy wireless device isn't that bad really. 0 -
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Was just looking at the conditions of the fibre swift broadband on the UPC site.
it states:
"Average expected broadband speeds at peak times are 5Mb, 15Mb and 30Mb. Broadband speeds are the maximum possible speeds only."
Thus since average expected is 30Mb, and maximum is 30Mb; it means that you must be getting 30Mb constantly to get an average of 30Mb.
Therefore, if you are getting below the 30Mb, they are breaking their own conditions and thus voiding their contract.
Or am I totally off base
Oh, and does anyone know where to get the UPC " acceptable usage policy"?
And what do they mean by "uncongested"? It cant mean 1:1 ratio. So what does it mean?0 -
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Sad Professor wrote: »Got my auto upgrade to 15Mb today - finally. Woohoo!
Jesus, its been available since January, some peeps aint in a hurry 0 -
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