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Not Animally - The Off Topic Thread
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At least that is not happening now and HR and Seamus seem to be consistent with their moderating.
Well I have to disagree with you on that one. Hellrazer & Seamus seem to be polar opposites
. HR will intervene in threads that Seamus would ignore. Personally I would love to see Seamus permanently here & he put a lot of work into the last feedback thread.Despite what DD thinks I do actually care about the forum which is the main reason I get so annoyed when Im told I dont know how to mod the place.Ive been here long enough that Im obviously doing something right.
But the forum has been in constant chaos so something has been clearly wrong for a very long time. You are like the CEO of the A&P board so it is reasonable that people look to you when it goes wrong. I can absolutely say, hand on heart, that if I were in your shoes I would welcome every word of criticism because I would want to know if & what I am doing wrong. I would want to put an end to the problems, once & for all, & start enjoying the place. If someone disagreed with my decisions they would be welcome to come here, query my actions & I would apologise if I was in the wrong. I would even run a poll after 6 months to see if people wanted me to stay or go & I would abide by the decision.
I over queried & I apologise regarding the "proof" element of the PAWS thread. I did so because we have had countless warnings from Darragh & the thread contains some extremely damaging remarks that have now been totally refuted by PAWS. On reflection I should of PM'd my concerns to you.Do you think that its fair on a mod-never mind a mod--anyone in the forum who wants to post but is genuinely afraid to do so in case they are accused of the above or are afraid to go against the flow of a thread with a differing view??
With respect we can't give you personal advice. You have plenty of confidence when it comes to modding so why not be upfront & confident in your opinions. No one cares if you are pro or anti hunting provided that it never effects the moderation of the forum. Most here are frequent visitors & they read enough to be able to judge someone's integrity. People can sense if someone is making a fair judgement.
The few here that really know me would laugh at the idea of me speaking out in support of Gina & PAWS - I even stated on the thread that I had made a complaint about them. But I totally respect someone's right to make their own decisions & present their view. If you don't encourage the Gina's to post ( I categorically did not advise her of the thread) then you can't debate with them & the whole thing becomes one sided & pointless. You have to encourage opposite opinion which is why I always welcome posters from the hunting forum. Personally I wouldn't of censured our dog kicking friend because his post & the arguments against it make him look an idiot. Sometimes it is better to let these people post & leave the posts there as a reminder to others. His view may seem extreme to us but thousands will agree with him & they need to see why it is wrong.We do this voluntarily and believe me if you saw "behind the scenes" so to speak you would realise how much work is actually involved but as I said its a thankless job.And I think if users actually knew what went on they wouldnt keep putting mods down in any forum never mind just here.
Sorry but I know plenty of Mods who love it & they get lots of thanks. It's like any other task, it becomes much easier if you relax & enjoy it. There is absolutely no reason why A&P should be any more troublesome that any other forum. Many of the posters here are experienced Boardies & post elsewhere - they know how to behave. In my experience if you make the effort & earn respect then others will treat you with respect. Sure some things provoke us or challenge us but that always provides a positive opportunity. The other key is humour - one of the best ways to defuse some situations.I just hope that what Ive put here goes some way to help users understand where Im coming from and why I get so annoyed by users saying Im modding the forum the wrong way.
If you care about this place as much as I do then you have to be open. You can't keep saying that what you are doing is right & that others are wrong. We all have to accept criticism practically every day, it's part of life. The key is to listen when it's valid & we all have that moment where we want to dig the heels in but, on reflection, we realise that the criticism is justified. It's an oldie but still a goodie - "A complaint is an Opportunity".
This board could be utterly brilliant & unlike you I do not accept that there is much that's inherently wrong. I welcome any new Mods but they do need to be regulars or willing to become regulars. If they are unknown then they need to make an effort to become known. It is also critical that you allow them total autonomy.
I also feel that it is very disappointing that none of the CMods, who control our fate, ever appear here as posters. Surely we need a CMod who has a feel for A&P issues especially as Rec covers such a diversity - how about promoting Seamus
But most of all lets make this the last bloody feedback thread. Mods shouldn't need to ask about their "driving". Their PM box should always be open to comment & opinion. We all spend far too much time here & it's going to start driving us all nuts unless we make it a pleasure.0 -
adrenalinjunkie wrote: »I couldn't possibly, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do the SS then
+1 for ISDW although she probably has barely enough time to breath as it is!
If either Whispy, ISDW or AJ became Mods I would be banned within 24 hours - it would be like an irritated woman swatting a fly 0 -
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adrenalinjunkie wrote: »BANNED - for sexist comments!!
Now be on your way.
:P
And I didn't even mention PMT 0 -
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Well I have to disagree with you on that one. Hellrazer & Seamus seem to be polar opposites. HR will intervene in threads that Seamus would ignore. Personally I would love to see Seamus permanently here & he put a lot of work into the last feedback thread.
Different styles of moderating--you`ll find it in every forum you ever visit.You have never liked my style since the day you started posting here.
I disagree whole heartedly on this statement.But the forum has been in constant chaos so something has been clearly wrong for a very long time.
Actually looking back--you are the only one
who consistently has a problem with the modding of the forum.
You are the one continually complaining about the forum.
You are the one that starts feedback/helpdesk threads everytime something happens that you disagree with.
You need to look closer to home for the problems within the forum.
I very rarely see anyone else giving out as much as you do--if other regulars feel the same then they should say so but Ive a sneaky feeling that a lot of them are quite happy with the way things are done.I over queried & I apologise regarding the "proof" element of the PAWS thread. I did so because we have had countless warnings from Darragh & the thread contains some extremely damaging remarks that have now been totally refuted by PAWS. On reflection I should of PM'd my concerns to you.
Exactly--you should have but didnt.You went ahead yet again and firstly reported my post to the cmods and then before I even had time to reply started a helpdesk thread.If you care about this place as much as I do then you have to be open. You can't keep saying that what you are doing is right & that others are wrong.
I think you need to read this bit back to yourself.
The decision on new mods is down to the admins.I have no control over that and you dont either.I welcome any new Mods but they do need to be regulars or willing to become regulars. If they are unknown then they need to make an effort to become known. It is also critical that you allow them total autonomy.But most of all lets make this the last bloody feedback thread. Mods shouldn't need to ask about their "driving". Their PM box should always be open to comment & opinion. .
Mine always is.And I spent almost a full weekend pming with you explaining how I do things in the past and you still didnt get it and I dont think you ever will to be totally honest.0 -
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Just reported another
Can HR or a new mod please please please do something about "the problem with this forum" type posts. Please. It's getting bloody old at this stage. If they bothered to look there is an off topic thread here to bring things like that up. At best it's annoying and at worst it's back seat modding, off topic and baiting.0 -
Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 6519
Just reported another
Can HR or a new mod please please please do something about "the problem with this forum" type posts. Please. It's getting bloody old at this stage. If they bothered to look there is an off topic thread here to bring things like that up. At best it's annoying and at worst it's back seat modding, off topic and baiting.
It'll take me a week to figure out how to do it 0 -
Folks any and all issues with Moderating should be discussed in a dedicated Feedback thread or in private with the local Mods. If needs be you can contact a Rec CMod (myself, trout or randylonghorn) if you need an impartial outsider.
You do, as posters, reserve the right to ask those questions but there's a time and a place and frankly the Mods shouldn't have to constantly have to defend themselves.
In the meantime I'd suggest giving adrenalinjunkie a hearty congratulations as the new A&PI Mod addition, and also a big welcome back to star-pants
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