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Not Animally - The Off Topic Thread

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    I agree with both AJ and Isdw in that andrea was right to point this out and reply after the big deal this lad made out the place he was buying the pup from.

    However a simple "I told you so" would have sufficed but to rub it in to the face of the user in question was way out of line in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    I agree with both AJ and Isdw in that andrea was right to point this out and reply after the big deal this lad made out the place he was buying the pup from.

    However a simple "I told you so" would have sufficed but to rub it in to the face of the user in question was way out of line in my opinion.

    Thank you for putting a modified post back up, I think it does help the situation, but yes, perhaps the way it was originally written may have caused more issues.

    Good modding.:D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    ISDW wrote: »
    Thank you for putting a modified post back up, I think it does help the situation, but yes, perhaps the way it was originally written may have caused more issues.

    Good modding.:D


    The modified post was put at the same time I posted on thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Anyone else feel like this place is turning more like AH by the day? :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Whispered wrote: »
    Anyone else feel like this place is turning more like AH by the day? :rolleyes:

    Tis all the kiddies on their school hols--Nothing else to do but troll boards :)

    In my day I left the house at 9.00am with the dogs and was lucky to be home at 6 for me dinner and then back out till after dark--those were the days--Im sounding old here.

    This www stuff has ruined kids these days :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Well if the kiddies insist on running riot around API I reckon a lot of genuine posters might be put off.

    You must be SICK of me reporting stuff :pac:

    Back in your day HR the www wasn't even invented. (heh back in MY day I don't think it was either so I guess, in the old stakes I'm quite close to you :( )


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Whispered wrote: »
    Well if the kiddies insist on running riot around API I reckon a lot of genuine posters might be put off.

    Theres only 5/6 weeks to go and its always the same once teh holidays start.
    You must be SICK of me reporting stuff :pac:

    Np but a lot of it are one post wonders just trying it on--and either ways I need a bit of help modding this place so watch this space ;);)
    Back in your day HR the www wasn't even invented. (heh back in MY day I don't think it was either so I guess, in the old stakes I'm quite close to you :( )

    Oi--Im not that old.Well I am but shhhhh!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    The increased activity in A&P is an opportunity not a curse. Yes there might be the odd immature remark but at the end of the day, we need young people to get interested in animals. I would hope that we can spot the difference between a young poster & a deliberately unpleasant poster.

    This issue has cropped up on other animal boards. Part of the problem is you cannot identify or distinguish young posters because of safety concerns. So we can only judge by the comments that are posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Oh god - it's not the ages at all. Or the increased activity - it's great to see more people getting involved. Just some of the posts are very AH'ish lately. Although I must admit I didn't think of the school hols until HR mentioned them.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Whispered wrote: »
    Oh god - it's not the ages at all. Or the increased activity - it's great to see more people getting involved. Just some of the posts are very AH'ish lately. Although I must admit I didn't think of the school hols until HR mentioned them.

    Always notice the same around the Xmas hols aswell to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Np but a lot of it are one post wonders just trying it on--and either ways I need a bit of help modding this place so watch this space ;);)[\quote]

    Oh is whispered going to be a mod?!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Not at all - my money goes on SP :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Shall we start a sweepstake ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    who is SP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Star Pants. Started as a Mod some time ago & showed great promise. According to Hellrazer she left because of one poster which seems totally bizarre - she should of banned them ;)

    But I wouldn't want to be a Mod here so I can't blame anyone else for not wanting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    Oh cool, thankyou.

    I was a bit dull there trying all the different names and could not think of Star Pants.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Whispered wrote: »
    Not at all - my money goes on SP :D

    You would be a good candidate in my book because you devote a lot of time & effort to A&P. It is obvious that you care about it. I have read that one of the prime considerations in appointing a Mod is that they have a strong interest in the topic & the forum. I can't see how anyone who posts less than, say an average of once a day, can fulfil this requirement.

    Also because you regularly post, your "character" & integrity can be easily assessed. I find it strange that many Boards mods in other forums rarely post except as a Mod. Also they are appointed from on high - how about an election ? :D

    I would of thought that four Mods would be more than sufficient for a forum of this size providing that they all contribute & most important of all, sing from the same hymn sheet.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    Why is it that every thread seems to end up in the exact same OT fighting? I'm surely not the only one getting put off by this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Shanao wrote: »
    Why is it that every thread seems to end up in the exact same OT fighting? I'm surely not the only one getting put off by this.

    Every thread :eek: ? Could you be a bit more specific ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    Shanao wrote: »
    Why is it that every thread seems to end up in the exact same OT fighting? I'm surely not the only one getting put off by this.

    If you're talking about the Paws thread I was beginning to think a certain mod and a certain disco hound should get a room:p;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ppink wrote: »
    If you're talking about the Paws thread I was beginning to think a certain mod and a certain disco hound should get a room:p;)

    You will be pleased to know that I have taken our "discussion" elsewhere & I didn't start it ;) Even though I posted this early on in the thread, showing that I had complained about PAWS, I was accused of being linked to them:
    Discodog wrote: »
    I had an incident a while ago where PAWS were collecting in my local supermarket. I spoke to the manager who told me that anyone was welcome to collect & to his knowledge

    If Shanao meant me then it's a bit of an exaggeration as I only ever post on a couple of A&P threads at any one time. In reality the forum has managed to have some very heated discussions & there have been very few problems. Given the emotional aspects of A&P I think that the vast majority of posters act in a decent manner.

    The PAWS thread does raise some interesting issues because, whether we like them or not, professional fundraisers are on the increase & they are hear to stay. The same arguments caused a lot of grief in the UK years ago.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    Wrote that a bit fast earlier, should have been nearly every recent thread, and I wasn't just talking about you DD, though you and HR seem to have the same fight within every thread you both get involved in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Shanao wrote: »
    Wrote that a bit fast earlier, should have been nearly every recent thread, and I wasn't just talking about you DD, though you and HR seem to have the same fight within every thread you both get involved in.

    It might not seem like it but in reality we have had relatively few tiffs & if there is further discussion then it is taken elsewhere like here ! If I was as bad as some people think then I would have more than three minor infractions in 3800 posts.

    I complain because I care about the forum & my fellow posters :P

    I can hear the clicking of thousands of keyboards as posters search for a vomit smilie !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,951 ✭✭✭trout


    I know it's hard to take an off-topic thread, off-topic ... but there's a few strands of conversation I'd like to tie off here for the minute. I'll explain why.

    On the topic of mods and moderation, a little slack goes a long way.
    From the Rec category context, A&PI generates a lot of heat, which I've always put down to how emotive people get about animals ... ye're a passionate lot.

    That said, the mods are volunteers, giving freely of their time, and until you've been a mod, it's hard to envisage how much work is involved ... and it is work, a labour of love, but work nonetheless. A little slack ... goes a long way.

    Regular users can make forums run smoothly by reporting posts, and comporting themselves along the norms of the forum. When you are dealing with the faceless world of forum posts, it is possible to be mis-interpreted ... people can get the wrong end of the stick ... what some people see as forthright behaviour, others can see as obstreperous.

    On the flip-side, mods & cmods certainly do have to listen to the forum regulars, so I'm proposing another "how's my driving?" thread, in the very near future. I want to do this so people have their say in their forum ... but we need to get some more mods on-board first. It's clear to me, from the outside looking in, that we need more mods in this forum, given the levels of activity and how strongly people feel about their animals.

    Now ... trust me ... appointing mods is an arduous task, you have to make sure that the right candidates are selected, and the list is narrowed down to the most suitable people in the fairest way, for the best interests of the forum. Usually, but not always, this means forum regulars with a significant body of knowledge in the forum topic ... this can help, but there are also a number of forums where mods act as janitors, sweeping up as they go along, and not driving threads / topics. For A&PI, I think the demands on mods are higher than other forums, certainly other forums in the Rec cat ... so we're taking our time, to make sure we make the best possible choices.

    All I can say at this point is we are looking at a number of possible mods - and decisions will be made soon enough, once the various mods, cmods, and admins are all in agreement.

    The idea of electing a mod may seem good at first glance ... but it has been tried in the past, and found to be very problematic. Over the years, boards.ie has developed a process for appointing mods, which might sleem slow & cumbersome from the outside, but it is in place for a reason; the alternatives are worse, and bitter experience has shown this to be true.

    tl;dr - let's all make a special effort to just get along, we're all on the same side.
    New mod(s) coming soon, closely followed by a "how's my driving?" thread, in which everyone will get their spoke :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Can we make nominations? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Discodog wrote: »
    You would be a good candidate in my book because you devote a lot of time & effort to A&P. It is obvious that you care about it. I have read that one of the prime considerations in appointing a Mod is that they have a strong interest in the topic & the forum. I can't see how anyone who posts less than, say an average of once a day, can fulfil this requirement.
    Thank you - you're right I do care about the forum but I don't think I'd be a good mod. I'm too reactive, something I often have to watch when replying to posts. I can imagine "what do you mean you bought your pup from a man who asked which pups when you enquired and insisted on meeting on the side of the road - banned for stupidity!" :pac: I also have some very strong opinions about some things and would find it hard to approach some subjects from an outside point of view. On top of that HR and I don't always see eye to eye (although I think we're starting to understand each other a bit better) I think AND I don't take critisism very well. :D
    Discodog wrote: »
    I would of thought that four Mods would be more than sufficient for a forum of this size providing that they all contribute & most important of all, sing from the same hymn sheet.
    How true, only 2 of the mods show any interest in the forum - one of them hasn't been active since march. Times gone by it seemed some instances where mods were undermining each other, a decision made by one would be ignored by the other. At least that is not happening now and HR and Seamus seem to be consistent with their moderating.
    Discodog wrote: »
    I complain because I care about the forum & my fellow posters :P
    I can hear the clicking of thousands of keyboards as posters search for a vomit smilie !

    36_20_7.gif

    (only joking.)

    I know what you mean, I complain a lot, and report a lot, and moan at poor HR a lot. It's genuinely because I like this forum, I like posting in it, I like the people, even the ones I disagree with.






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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Whispered wrote: »
    I know what you mean, I complain a lot, and report a lot, and moan at poor HR a lot. It's genuinely because I like this forum, I like posting in it, I like the people, even the ones I disagree with.

    Took the day off yesterday to reflect on a few things so here goes.

    Thats alright Whispered--Its ok to have a moan every now and again as long as its not all the time like some users.

    Despite what DD thinks I do actually care about the forum which is the main reason I get so annoyed when Im told I dont know how to mod the place.Ive been here long enough that Im obviously doing something right.

    Other mods have come and gone because of the emotive issues and the downright lack of thanks that they get.Aswell as the run ins that theyve had with some users which they felt were personal.

    I dont hold or never have held anything personal against anyone no matter how much they annoy me but I do feel that some users do and use any opportunity to slate myself and the forum.
    Yeah I get annoyed at the time and have a rant at higher powers but after sitting back and having a think Im Ive come to the conclusion that it shouldnt bother me in the slightest as its only a website.

    We do this voluntarily and believe me if you saw "behind the scenes" so to speak you would realise how much work is actually involved but as I said its a thankless job.And I think if users actually knew what went on they wouldnt keep putting mods down in any forum never mind just here.

    There was also a mention about mods only posting in a mod way--The way I personally feel is that no matter what I post its questioned wheter its a mod decision or a personal one.Sometimes that can overlap and so I dont always post when I want to.
    Do you think that its fair on a mod-never mind a mod--anyone in the forum who wants to post but is genuinely afraid to do so in case they are accused of the above or are afraid to go against the flow of a thread with a differing view??

    My views on hunting are a prime example--Im anti-hunting with hounds or for "sport" but 100% pro-hunting for food.But when I post that in any thread Im accused of using mod powers to direct a thread and or siding with the hunters.

    I look forward to having some new mods here who can take up some of the slack because I feel that for the last few weeks Im on my own here and it is hard work and can get to you after a while especially when you are continually put down and reported to cmods/admins.

    I just hope that what Ive put here goes some way to help users understand where Im coming from and why I get so annoyed by users saying Im modding the forum the wrong way.


    Richie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    So glad you thanked me Tillygirl cause I nominate you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    So glad you thanked me Tillygirl cause I nominate you :)

    There wouldn't be a hope in hell! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    So glad you thanked me Tillygirl cause I nominate you :)

    If there were nominations I'd say yourself or ISDW would be great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Whispered wrote: »
    If there were nominations I'd say yourself or ISDW would be great

    I couldn't possibly, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do the SS then ;)

    +1 for ISDW although she probably has barely enough time to breath as it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Whispered wrote: »
    At least that is not happening now and HR and Seamus seem to be consistent with their moderating.

    Well I have to disagree with you on that one. Hellrazer & Seamus seem to be polar opposites :D. HR will intervene in threads that Seamus would ignore. Personally I would love to see Seamus permanently here & he put a lot of work into the last feedback thread.
    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Despite what DD thinks I do actually care about the forum which is the main reason I get so annoyed when Im told I dont know how to mod the place.Ive been here long enough that Im obviously doing something right.

    But the forum has been in constant chaos so something has been clearly wrong for a very long time. You are like the CEO of the A&P board so it is reasonable that people look to you when it goes wrong. I can absolutely say, hand on heart, that if I were in your shoes I would welcome every word of criticism because I would want to know if & what I am doing wrong. I would want to put an end to the problems, once & for all, & start enjoying the place. If someone disagreed with my decisions they would be welcome to come here, query my actions & I would apologise if I was in the wrong. I would even run a poll after 6 months to see if people wanted me to stay or go & I would abide by the decision.

    I over queried & I apologise regarding the "proof" element of the PAWS thread. I did so because we have had countless warnings from Darragh & the thread contains some extremely damaging remarks that have now been totally refuted by PAWS. On reflection I should of PM'd my concerns to you.
    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Do you think that its fair on a mod-never mind a mod--anyone in the forum who wants to post but is genuinely afraid to do so in case they are accused of the above or are afraid to go against the flow of a thread with a differing view??

    With respect we can't give you personal advice. You have plenty of confidence when it comes to modding so why not be upfront & confident in your opinions. No one cares if you are pro or anti hunting provided that it never effects the moderation of the forum. Most here are frequent visitors & they read enough to be able to judge someone's integrity. People can sense if someone is making a fair judgement.

    The few here that really know me would laugh at the idea of me speaking out in support of Gina & PAWS - I even stated on the thread that I had made a complaint about them. But I totally respect someone's right to make their own decisions & present their view. If you don't encourage the Gina's to post ( I categorically did not advise her of the thread) then you can't debate with them & the whole thing becomes one sided & pointless. You have to encourage opposite opinion which is why I always welcome posters from the hunting forum. Personally I wouldn't of censured our dog kicking friend because his post & the arguments against it make him look an idiot. Sometimes it is better to let these people post & leave the posts there as a reminder to others. His view may seem extreme to us but thousands will agree with him & they need to see why it is wrong.
    Hellrazer wrote: »
    We do this voluntarily and believe me if you saw "behind the scenes" so to speak you would realise how much work is actually involved but as I said its a thankless job.And I think if users actually knew what went on they wouldnt keep putting mods down in any forum never mind just here.

    Sorry but I know plenty of Mods who love it & they get lots of thanks. It's like any other task, it becomes much easier if you relax & enjoy it. There is absolutely no reason why A&P should be any more troublesome that any other forum. Many of the posters here are experienced Boardies & post elsewhere - they know how to behave. In my experience if you make the effort & earn respect then others will treat you with respect. Sure some things provoke us or challenge us but that always provides a positive opportunity. The other key is humour - one of the best ways to defuse some situations.
    Hellrazer wrote: »
    I just hope that what Ive put here goes some way to help users understand where Im coming from and why I get so annoyed by users saying Im modding the forum the wrong way.

    If you care about this place as much as I do then you have to be open. You can't keep saying that what you are doing is right & that others are wrong. We all have to accept criticism practically every day, it's part of life. The key is to listen when it's valid & we all have that moment where we want to dig the heels in but, on reflection, we realise that the criticism is justified. It's an oldie but still a goodie - "A complaint is an Opportunity".

    This board could be utterly brilliant & unlike you I do not accept that there is much that's inherently wrong. I welcome any new Mods but they do need to be regulars or willing to become regulars. If they are unknown then they need to make an effort to become known. It is also critical that you allow them total autonomy.

    I also feel that it is very disappointing that none of the CMods, who control our fate, ever appear here as posters. Surely we need a CMod who has a feel for A&P issues especially as Rec covers such a diversity - how about promoting Seamus ;)

    But most of all lets make this the last bloody feedback thread. Mods shouldn't need to ask about their "driving". Their PM box should always be open to comment & opinion. We all spend far too much time here & it's going to start driving us all nuts unless we make it a pleasure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I couldn't possibly, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do the SS then ;)

    +1 for ISDW although she probably has barely enough time to breath as it is!

    If either Whispy, ISDW or AJ became Mods I would be banned within 24 hours - it would be like an irritated woman swatting a fly :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Discodog wrote: »
    If either Whispy, ISDW or AJ became Mods I would be banned within 24 hours - it would be like an irritated woman swatting a fly :D

    BANNED - for sexist comments!!

    Now be on your way.

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    BANNED - for sexist comments!!

    Now be on your way.

    :P

    And I didn't even mention PMT :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Discodog wrote: »
    If either Whispy, ISDW or AJ became Mods I would be banned within 24 hours - it would be like an irritated woman swatting a fly :D

    If that name sticks :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    Whispered wrote: »
    If that name sticks :mad:


    lol you will have to resort to the Boogiehound........or to the Boogerhound:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Whispered wrote: »
    If there were nominations I'd say yourself or ISDW would be great

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac: There'd be nobody left.

    That Discodog would be the first to go with his sexist comments:P

    Anybody that wants to buy a pedigree dog - banned.
    Anybody that wants to hunt - banned.

    Not really obviously, but you get the gist I'm sure.

    Although I think I probably would ban people who join the forum just for one topic, all of a sudden;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Whispered wrote: »
    If that name sticks :mad:

    Well when you are horrid to me I think of you as a Cadbury's chocolate bar then I am not so afraid :D

    But I promise to never use it again - you might whisper but so does Milan & I'd quite like my neck to stay as it is :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    ppink wrote: »
    lol you will have to resort to the Boogiehound........or to the Boogerhound:D

    I was thinking "Double D a real tit" :pac:

    DD I'm never horrid to you. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ppink wrote: »
    lol you will have to resort to the Boogiehound........or to the Boogerhound:D

    I nearly chose Boghound instead of DD ! We once convinced a old fella in Clare that my Saluki was a Burrenhound - an ancient Irish breed ;)

    Unlike Whispered I don't need a sexy name :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Whispered wrote: »
    I was thinking "Double D a real tit" :pac:

    DD I'm never horrid to you. :(

    I can't type in a cockney accent but trust me it's "right tit" & not "real tit"

    I am really upset that you chose to involve my moobs in this discussion :p


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Discodog wrote: »
    Well I have to disagree with you on that one. Hellrazer & Seamus seem to be polar opposites :D. HR will intervene in threads that Seamus would ignore. Personally I would love to see Seamus permanently here & he put a lot of work into the last feedback thread.

    Different styles of moderating--you`ll find it in every forum you ever visit.You have never liked my style since the day you started posting here.


    But the forum has been in constant chaos so something has been clearly wrong for a very long time.
    I disagree whole heartedly on this statement.
    Actually looking back--you are the only one
    who consistently has a problem with the modding of the forum.
    You are the one continually complaining about the forum.
    You are the one that starts feedback/helpdesk threads everytime something happens that you disagree with.
    You need to look closer to home for the problems within the forum.

    I very rarely see anyone else giving out as much as you do--if other regulars feel the same then they should say so but Ive a sneaky feeling that a lot of them are quite happy with the way things are done.


    I over queried & I apologise regarding the "proof" element of the PAWS thread. I did so because we have had countless warnings from Darragh & the thread contains some extremely damaging remarks that have now been totally refuted by PAWS. On reflection I should of PM'd my concerns to you.

    Exactly--you should have but didnt.You went ahead yet again and firstly reported my post to the cmods and then before I even had time to reply started a helpdesk thread.


    If you care about this place as much as I do then you have to be open. You can't keep saying that what you are doing is right & that others are wrong.

    I think you need to read this bit back to yourself.
    I welcome any new Mods but they do need to be regulars or willing to become regulars. If they are unknown then they need to make an effort to become known. It is also critical that you allow them total autonomy.
    The decision on new mods is down to the admins.I have no control over that and you dont either.

    But most of all lets make this the last bloody feedback thread. Mods shouldn't need to ask about their "driving". Their PM box should always be open to comment & opinion. .

    Mine always is.And I spent almost a full weekend pming with you explaining how I do things in the past and you still didnt get it and I dont think you ever will to be totally honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Different styles of moderating--you`ll find it in every forum you ever visit.You have never liked my style since the day you started posting here.

    Simply not true. Different styles maybe but not a totally different approach. We have to have some consistency.

    You cannot seriously be blaming all the problems over the years on me ? I have been here for 3 years but in that time this forum has been in a constant state of flux & it can't all be down to me. From what I have read there were problems long before I joined.

    I had hoped, from the reflective nature of your recent post, that you might be open to considering why this forum keeps going wrong but all you have done is blame me.

    I suggest that we do not bore everyone else any further as clearly we are going to have to accept that we do not agree on how the forum should be run. I have apologised for my error even though I didn't expect it to be accepted.

    I do reserve the right to question, within the rules & I will ensure that I always do so within the correct Boards procedure. It's a shame that you ignored the positive elements in my post. I want an positive, long term, permanent improvement & not for just another few weeks of peace followed by months of grief as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Wow, people sure get mad with the realization that they've been robbed and fully consented to it. It has to be karma getting payback for their tendency to shoot the messenger and abuse innocent bystanders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Just reported another :o

    Can HR or a new mod please please please do something about "the problem with this forum" type posts. Please. It's getting bloody old at this stage. If they bothered to look there is an off topic thread here to bring things like that up. At best it's annoying and at worst it's back seat modding, off topic and baiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Whispered wrote: »
    Just reported another :o

    Can HR or a new mod please please please do something about "the problem with this forum" type posts. Please. It's getting bloody old at this stage. If they bothered to look there is an off topic thread here to bring things like that up. At best it's annoying and at worst it's back seat modding, off topic and baiting.

    It'll take me a week to figure out how to do it :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Folks any and all issues with Moderating should be discussed in a dedicated Feedback thread or in private with the local Mods. If needs be you can contact a Rec CMod (myself, trout or randylonghorn) if you need an impartial outsider.

    You do, as posters, reserve the right to ask those questions but there's a time and a place and frankly the Mods shouldn't have to constantly have to defend themselves.

    In the meantime I'd suggest giving adrenalinjunkie a hearty congratulations as the new A&PI Mod addition, and also a big welcome back to star-pants :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Congrats adrenalinjunkie and welcome back star-pants! :D

    Now whats the best way to cause trouble I wonder. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    :D YEY!

    Congratulations AJ and welcome back SP.

    haha the men are outnumbered. Now where was DD with his PMT comments. :p


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