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Womens Attitudes in Nightclubs
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goodcitizen wrote: »Maybe it's because we show the Irish women here way too much respect that they don't deserve, look at every body else such as the French or Italians, most of which don't take any **** from their women which in turn generates more mutual respect. I think we have allowed these wenches to get above themselves. Its a common known fact that if you show a woman too much respect , she will eventually take you for granted and lose interest. that is whats happening here.Women here when they go out are being constantly chatted up , sometimes up to 20 times a night, even the fat ugly ones, guys come across as being too desperate and when a woman breaks up with a guy , what does he do? he starts bawling crying or he f**ks himself in the river. every other time he's worried that she might break up with him and fCuk off with one of his friends.What do you expect??
Care to elaborate? You see, I'm just a lowly Irish wench who gets far too much respect ( such as men randomly groping me and my friends in bars), but I really would love to know how exactly us Irish women have gotten above ourselves. How dare we! We clearly don't 'deserve' to be treated with respect.:p
Tell me, how exactly do the French and Italian men not take any **** from their women?
Would you care to back up this 'fact' that if you treat a woman with too much 'respect' she will lose interest?
What's wrong with Irish women ( even the 'fat, ugly' ones) being chatted up? Have you stopped to think that maybe it's a small number of ignorant ones that are really rude, and these are the ones who display the negative attitude that OP is talking about? No, just because a few guys chat us up, we all think we're God's gift. :rolleyes: Down with this sort of thing!
And would you get away with this rubbish about a man 'bawling crying and fcuking himself in a river' if a woman dumps him? Surely that's not the normal reaction of the average Irish male? Even if it is, that's not treating a woman with 'too much' respect, that's being insecure and clingy (which isn't attractive to anybody, male and female). If it's the case that men are appearing too desperate (which they aren't), surely it's a matter of the men needing to cop themselves on, rather than treat the women with less respect?
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I got "cherry picked" to join the Chicago Bears in the VIP section of a nightclub (in Chicago, funnily enough) two years ago. Explained to the guy in question that I was engaged and not interested, and got an earful of abuse for not knowing how lucky I was and how "loads of girls would kill for this opportunity".
I guess us uppity Irish birds just don't know our place, eh?
Eh, yeah, I think so anyway.
No sarcasm...
It's the Chicago BEARS for goodness sake 0 -
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SoWatchaWant wrote: »It's the Chicago BEARS for goodness sake
They weren't on my "list", what could I do? My hands were tied...0 -
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Wow, if that's the sort of respect women are after I'm suddenly a born again feminist.
Well, I was being sarcastic. :pac:thelastangryman wrote: »Its rather odd. Women complain about being groped by the obviously over the top arse holes but don't go up and talk to the guy just chilling in a seat or even just chatting in a group.
Maybe they were on their way over to talk the guy sitting down in the corner when the pervy guy came up and groped them. It's happened to me before.
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Seems to me alot of you lads don't understand women
Women are quite content with going out all dressed up so the other girls can see how nice they are etc and get a few nice comments from men then there happy campers .
Makes them feel good.Makes them feel good rejecting men aswell but mostly the men have no "balls" anyway.Give her a slap in the ass i say and ask her to dance anf stfu
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Care to elaborate? You see, I'm just a lowly Irish wench who gets far too much respect ( such as men randomly groping me and my friends in bars), but I really would love to know how exactly us Irish women have gotten above ourselves. How dare we! We clearly don't 'deserve' to be treated with respect.:p
Tell me, how exactly do the French and Italian men not take any **** from their women?
Would you care to back up this 'fact' that if you treat a woman with too much 'respect' she will lose interest?
What's wrong with Irish women ( even the 'fat, ugly' ones) being chatted up? Have you stopped to think that maybe it's a small number of ignorant ones that are really rude, and these are the ones who display the negative attitude that OP is talking about? No, just because a few guys chat us up, we all think we're God's gift. :rolleyes: Down with this sort of thing!
And would you get away with this rubbish about a man 'bawling crying and fcuking himself in a river' if a woman dumps him? Surely that's not the normal reaction of the average Irish male? Even if it is, that's not treating a woman with 'too much' respect, that's being insecure and clingy (which isn't attractive to anybody, male and female). If it's the case that men are appearing too desperate (which they aren't), surely it's a matter of the men needing to cop themselves on, rather than treat the women with less respect?
Your statement "men randomly groping me and my friends in bars " I find very hard to believe in the era of big f**k off bouncers who I am sure you would call upon to intervene if anybody tried that kind of harressment.
I've been going to pubs and nightclubs for a long time and i've never seen it happen.
How I think women have gotten above themselves? It's the assumptons they make.The point is some people when they go out just want to have a chat, and if they happen to chat with the opposite sex , so be it, but instead women don't give men the benefit of the doubt and jump to the wrong conclusions, always assuming the worst when in reality the the guy is just being being socialable and just wants to have a talk. Instead he is treated like an animal who's only motivation is to get laid at your expense.
Anyway if you are ina nightclub, the main reason you are there is to talk to the opposite sex, right?
About the guy bawling crying at being dumped, I was refering to the way men have become very feminine in this modern world and because of this, the woman has lost respect for him. Okay, so there will always be a number of assholes who won't take the hint, but there are assholes in every walk of life, so is that any reason to have a chip on your shoulder whenever you enter a social function.0 -
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goodcitizen wrote: »Your statement "men randomly groping me and my friends in bars " I find very hard to believe in the era of big f**k off bouncers who I am sure you would call upon to intervene if anybody tried that kind of harressment.
I've been going to pubs and nightclubs for a long time and i've never seen it happen.
How I think women have gotten above themselves? It's the assumptons they make.The point is some people when they go out just want to have a chat, and if they happen to chat with the opposite sex , so be it, but instead women don't give men the benefit of the doubt and jump to the wrong conclusions, always assuming the worst when in reality the the guy is just being being socialable and just wants to have a talk. Instead he is treated like an animal who's only motivation is to get laid at your expense.
Anyway if you are ina nightclub, the main reason you are there is to talk to the opposite sex, right?
About the guy bawling crying at being dumped, I was refering to the way men have become very feminine in this modern world and because of this, the woman has lost respect for him. Okay, so there will always be a number of assholes who won't take the hint, but there are assholes in every walk of life, so is that any reason to have a chip on your shoulder whenever you enter a social function.
You find it hard to believe? That's too bad, because it has happened to me and my friends. I tell them to fcuk off by myself, no need to tell the bouncers (who are outside the club, not inside, I believe.) In any case, this is an example of how Irish women actually aren't given 'too much' respect like you were implying.
I agree with the point of people being allowed to chat with the opposite sex, without any ulterior motive behind it. I posted here before saying I, personally, like talking with lots of people when I go out, male and female. My problem is how you generalize and imply that all Irish women are rude and arrogant, when many of them aren't.
" there are assholes in every walk of life, so is that any reason to have a chip on your shoulder whenever you enter a social function."goodcitizen wrote: »I don't have an anti women attitude but thanks for your concern, just an anti Irish women attitude
Yes, there unpleasant people in every nationality. Yet, it's only Irish women who have gotten above themselves and treat guys like animals? 0 -
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