Womens Attitudes in Nightclubs

LegacyUser

Can any guys identify with what i am going to say ........

I was standing around in a Nightclub recently and there was an attractive girl standing on her own so i decided to strike up a conversation. Just as i started talking to her, she says "Oh F-Off"

This was fairly early in the night and i was fairly sober. Now i've had some nasty things said to me when approaching women in Clubs as have a lot of my mates but i don't understand why women behave like complete a-holes just because i guy trys to get talking to them.

None of my mates or me would ever say anything rude to a girl who started talking to us. I've never heard a mate turn around to a girl and say something like" eh, do you want something"

Its only Irish women that do it as well. Talking to polish girls etc is no problem. They are very down to earth and will chat away. Me and my mates have a laugh about it but it happens a lot and i'm definately not a sleazebag and don't understand womens reactions sometimes.

Refresh

dont take it personally
not defending her but she might just be having a bad day, could of had a fight with a friend, might not be single
99% of the time ive approached women it has gone well, at the very least id have a conversation with him

drunkmonkey

it's hardly a personal issue......maybe the girl just dosen't appreciate random blokes walking up and trying to hit on her, i've the opposite problem with women, they keep coming up and hitting on me....it's dam bloddy annoying:mad:

Stick to Polish women so. Everyone is happy

Treora

ahh the foreign ladies. Whatever else about the state of the country, I hope to f&(* that they don't leave.:(

unhappycamper

Sadly some people are just rude. Its not you its them. Before I approach a girl I will have made some serious eye contact with her first before I speak to her. It's in the eye contact, simple. If they ain't looking at ya move the f**k on.

SnowMonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

it's hardly a personal issue......maybe the girl just dosen't appreciate random blokes walking up and trying to hit on her, i've the opposite problem with women, they keep coming up and hitting on me....it's dam bloddy annoying:mad:

wanna tell me your secret my fellow monkey im blameing the way i dress :rolleyes::D

FunkZ

Dude some people are stuck up their own hole and some aren't. Forget about it and stay trying to talk to as many women as ya can!

Ya can move to America with me in three years if ya want!

Carrigart Exile

UnReg2008 wrote: »

Can any guys identify with what i am going to say ........

I was standing around in a Nightclub recently and there was an attractive girl standing on her own so i decided to strike up a conversation. Just as i started talking to her, she says "Oh F-Off"

This was fairly early in the night and i was fairly sober. Now i've had some nasty things said to me when approaching women in Clubs as have a lot of my mates but i don't understand why women behave like complete a-holes just because i guy trys to get talking to them.

None of my mates or me would ever say anything rude to a girl who started talking to us. I've never heard a mate turn around to a girl and say something like" eh, do you want something"

Its only Irish women that do it as well. Talking to polish girls etc is no problem. They are very down to earth and will chat away. Me and my mates have a laugh about it but it happens a lot and i'm definately not a sleazebag and don't understand womens reactions sometimes.

the usual retort to that is 'I wasn't wanting to hit on you, I'm gay, but I just wanted you to know that your backside looks big in that dress'

That should ruin her night:D

hussey

UnReg2008 wrote: »

Can any guys identify with what i am going to say ........

I was standing around in a Nightclub recently and there was an attractive girl standing on her own so i decided to strike up a conversation. Just as i started talking to her, she says "Oh F-Off"

This was fairly early in the night and i was fairly sober. Now i've had some nasty things said to me when approaching women in Clubs as have a lot of my mates but i don't understand why women behave like complete a-holes just because i guy trys to get talking to them.

None of my mates or me would ever say anything rude to a girl who started talking to us. I've never heard a mate turn around to a girl and say something like" eh, do you want something"

Its only Irish women that do it as well. Talking to polish girls etc is no problem. They are very down to earth and will chat away. Me and my mates have a laugh about it but it happens a lot and i'm definately not a sleazebag and don't understand womens reactions sometimes.

You should learn the difference between "women" and "a girl"

LolaLuv

hussey wrote: »

You should learn the difference between "women" and "a girl"

FTMFW!!! That's one of my biggest pet peeves! I'm all out of thanks, but you deserve a thousand!!

Beruthiel

Manners cost nothing.

Moving to AH as this is not a PI.
B

hussey

Beruthiel wrote: »

Manners cost nothing.

Moving to AH as this is not a PI.
B

Alright!!

OP ... Yore Ma's attitude is <something derogatory> :pac:

SimpleSam06

Bring out some female friends next time. Takes money to make money, as they say.

Mahatma coat

on a related topic

how do you get the Troggos and the Mongtards to go away ( especially th Mongs as you can see a Troggo before they aproach) without ,to a lesser extent Hurting their feelings (there is still no polite way totell someone yer not interested without hurtin their feelings) or more importantly not appearing to be shallow and self centred to any of the oher ladies in the area that are not Mongtarded Troggos?


advice please

Black Swan

UnReg2008 wrote: »

Its only Irish women that do it as well. Talking to polish girls etc is no problem. They are very down to earth and will chat away.

I believe this is an unfair sweeping generalisation about "Irish women." Each is a unique, individual person, with different personalities, attributes, and qualities. Could it be that because you think them all the same in terms of being difficult to approach, you may be acting upon this belief in such a way as to make yourself less attractive to them?

hot2def

I am so glad that i got in a long term relationship in my late teens and stayed there.....

Mossy Monk

Mahatma coat wrote: »

on a related topic

how do you get the Troggos and the Mongtards to go away ( especially th Mongs as you can see a Troggo before they aproach) without ,to a lesser extent Hurting their feelings (there is still no polite way totell someone yer not interested without hurtin their feelings) or more importantly not appearing to be shallow and self centred to any of the oher ladies in the area that are not Mongtarded Troggos?


advice please

Say you are gay.

Dinter

Laugh loudly at them when they arrive and keep laughing till they leave. To any onlookers it'll look nice and friendly.

Or pass them onto your wingman. That's what he's there for.

capedcrustacian

as a girl, I'd never behave that way, it's just plain rude, and i would always assume when a guy tries to talk to me in a bar or club that he's either asking for directions or asking if my friend is single.

to me the op makes it sound like the girl was pretty full of herself, and if that was the case, he had a lucky escape!!

all the stars

well,

i as a lady - tend to attract every odd-ball in any area i am in...

And, have to say sometimes i just want to be left alone...
i've had it more than once or twice that someone lad is staring at me (thinking he's successfully giving me the eye but looks more like, somethings wrong with him) and despite the fact he can actually see how uncomfortable i am with even just him staring... he still decides to come over and start bothering me.

(i consider it bothering me when you can see im completely uncomfortable and still persist)

And, while generally i would be fairly polite, i have on occasion had to break it right down to a lad to p*ss off and stop buggin me (though i try to not be too rude)- and lord, when i say "i'm in a relationship" the abuse... :eek: (and i actually am in one!)
"no your not - where is he..." blah blah...

Im thinking ":rolleyes: dude, i really aint gotta explain that i had him surgically removed a few days ago, and am enjoying a girls night out.. leave me alone..."

So, while i'm not saying you (OP) were bothering this girl, maybe she gets the same kinda thing as i just described.??

Sherifu

Forget her OP, do you really want to know someone like that anyway?

She may have been having a very bad day but still...

RxQueen

capedcrustacian wrote: »

as a girl, I'd never behave that way, it's just plain rude, and i would always assume when a guy tries to talk to me in a bar or club that he's either asking for directions or asking if my friend is single.

to me the op makes it sound like the girl was pretty full of herself, and if that was the case, he had a lucky escape!!

+1

maybe she's just always like this , and just cause one or two girls do that to you , doesnt mean every irish girls is like that op, so meh

javaboy

She was just playing hard to get. Keep at it OP. Chin up head high.

Some of them get really dedicated too. Like this girl my friend fancies. She's changed her number, moved house and got a barring order against him. Now personally I think she's taking it a bit far but I know they'll make a lovely couple in the end. Plus it will make a great story to tell their children in years to come.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Tell her you didn't realise that it was 'that time of the month' and apologise.

Dinter

Sherifu wrote: »

Forget her OP, do you really want to know someone like that anyway?

No, don't be a quitter. Instead try stalking her in a twitching psycho killer way.

Teach her that the only circumstances in which it's appropriate to say Fuck Off is when it's said in a scared, snivelling, high pitched cry for mercy as you're smashing your way into the closet she's hiding in since she heard her front door being kicked in.

milod

The "in yer fookin dreams pal" response is not a standard trait of Irish women. I'm sick of hearing this 'Eastern European/Asian Girls are so much more approachable' crap. Go to Poland, and try your luck in a Polish nightclub and see how far you get!

The approachability thing is majorly affected by two factors:

1. Irish women are more accustomed to the typical drunken advances they get in an Irish club
2. When you're in a foreign country, with little cultural context, you tend to be more approachable, as you are trying to make friends and establish yourself in a new country.

The fact is that some people are rude, and yes some of them are Irish women, but so are some Irish men etc etc ZZZzzzzzzz

Wagon

Stick to the foreign ladies my friend. Like the Polish! Even if they aren't interested in you, you can still have a great laugh with them. I learned to avoid the bitches by not going to ****ty clubs, so it depends where you go too i suppose.

Relevant

I've said this to people before. I've travelled all over europe and the US and when i come home i notice how ignorant and stuck up "some" girls can be!

When my friends and i were away we would talk to everyone. I struggle to remember any time where someone wouldn't at least engage in a few seconds of pleasant conversation but then when you come home you go up to some fat bird (for a perfectly innocent conversation/question) who thinks she is the sh!t and that she is too good to be talking to you and that she is gods gift! well i say "back in your box you moonpig!"

Steve_o

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

I believe this is an unfair sweeping generalisation about "Irish women." Each is a unique, individual person, with different personalities, attributes, and qualities. Could it be that because you think them all the same in terms of being difficult to approach, you may be acting upon this belief in such a way as to make yourself less attractive to them?

I don't think he meant all irish women, from the way I read the op, he meants its only irish women that do this, and from my experience he's right, I've only ever bein told to f*ck off by irish girls, Anytime i've ever tried to chat up a non national or a tourist or whatever, i get a conversation goin or at least a polite "sorry i'm not interested"... Thats not to say I don't chat up irish girls, I do, but i've found its only the irish girls (the odd one here and there) that will tell you to f*ck off straight away!! Rudeness FTL...

Wagon

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

I believe this is an unfair sweeping generalisation about "Irish women." Each is a unique, individual person, with different personalities, attributes, and qualities. Could it be that because you think them all the same in terms of being difficult to approach, you may be acting upon this belief in such a way as to make yourself less attractive to them?

No no. Your bitches.

RxQueen

Steve_o wrote: »

I don't think he meant all irish women, from the way I read the op, he meants its only irish women that do this, and from my experience he's right, I've only ever bein told to f*ck off by irish girls, Anytime i've ever tried to chat up a non national or a tourist or whatever, i get a conversation goin or at least a polite "sorry i'm not interested"... Thats not to say I don't chat up irish girls, I do, but i've found its only the irish girls (the odd one here and there) that will tell you to f*ck off straight away!! Rudeness FTL...

How you doin?

nah i find it hard to be rude when out, doesnt cost anything to be nice to someone, what goes around comes around, so maybe one day they will be told to **** off!

Im a girl and what i do find is most girls i see out at the weekend are up themself, but my god some guys are to.

PurpleBerry

Women can suffer from "sense of entitlement" a bit too much. For example, when holding a door for someone. Men are a lot more likely to do this than women. I've seen a man hold a door out for a woman and the woman just slide through, never mind a "thank you", she doesn't even acknowledge it, as if it were expected of the bloke.

You see it all the time on the roads too. A man lets a woman through and again, no acknowledgement that he has done her a bit of a favour. Some women expect others (especially men) to bow down to down just because they are a woman. Great example there of equality, girls.

There are sad women out there who will take these polite gestures as proof positive that the man fancies her. "He held a door open for me, he's into me" What?! So, if a man holds a door open for another man he must be gay?

^
That said, women don't always go to nightclubs to pick up guys, I don't know where that notion has come from. Sometimes it can be annoying when your boyfriend has gone to the toilets to be suddenly sequestered by guys. In this case the best thing to do is politely decline, not tell someone to "f off".

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

milod wrote: »

The "in yer fookin dreams pal" response is not a standard trait of Irish women. I'm sick of hearing this 'Eastern European/Asian Girls are so much more approachable' crap. Go to Poland, and try your luck in a Polish nightclub and see how far you get!

The approachability thing is majorly affected by two factors:

1. Irish women are more accustomed to the typical drunken advances they get in an Irish club
2. When you're in a foreign country, with little cultural context, you tend to be more approachable, as you are trying to make friends and establish yourself in a new country.

The fact is that some people are rude, and yes some of them are Irish women, but so are some Irish men etc etc ZZZzzzzzzz

I tend to get more positive responces amongst the locals here in Berlin than I ever did in Dublin. At lease the deciles are polite, anyway.

Smart Bug

I have chatted up quite the few ladies of many nationalities in my time and I can say that in my experience Irish girls have been the most ignorant of all, at times displaying a level of arrogance and conceit I've not seen in any other nationality.

Recently got told to f'off by some D4 girl, not nice OP but you gotta hang in there, there are some nice ladies out there! (almost have myself convinced...)

Honey-ec

I have to say, I really don't understand that attitude. I have a friend like that - if a guy she's not interested in tries to chat her up in a nightclub, she'll tell him to f*ck off straightaway. I, on the other hand, really don't see the need to be so nasty straight out of the gate.

I've been chatted up by some absolute feckin chancers in my time, but I'm always polite and pleasant to them. I think only once I've had to tell a guy to f*ck off, and that was after about 20 minutes of incessant "But you are interested. But you are. Yes, you are." Interestingly enough, that was a foreign guy - go figure.

sunnyside

all the stars wrote: »

well,

i as a lady - tend to attract every odd-ball in any area i am in...

And, have to say sometimes i just want to be left alone...
i've had it more than once or twice that someone lad is staring at me (thinking he's successfully giving me the eye but looks more like, somethings wrong with him) and despite the fact he can actually see how uncomfortable i am with even just him staring... he still decides to come over and start bothering me.

(i consider it bothering me when you can see im completely uncomfortable and still persist)

QUOTE]

Very familiar, any female who tells a man to f*** off just because he approached her is not a lady. If someone is very drunk I'll most likely announce that I have to go and walk away but I wouldn't be rude to somebody polite who had the courage to approach me.

javaboy wrote: »

She was just playing hard to get. Keep at it OP. Chin up head high.

Some of them get really dedicated too. Like this girl my friend fancies. She's changed her number, moved house and got a barring order against him. Now personally I think she's taking it a bit far but I know they'll make a lovely couple in the end. Plus it will make a great story to tell their children in years to come.

LOL:D

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I tend to get more positive responces amongst the locals here in Berlin than I ever did in Dublin. At lease the deciles are polite, anyway.

Lots of Irish girls (I'm Irish too) seem to think they are absolute princesses and way too good for most of the guys nice enough to approach them. The Polish girls(Or German or anywhere else) mostly have much nice manners than Irish girls. I totally understand why guys would like Polish girls.

I do often wonder why Irish people have this worldwide reputation for being so friendly. I think a lot of us Irish are anything but friendly.

dr.bollocko

Just feel glad that the really nasty horrible bitches make themselves known so easily these days before they have a chance to break your heart and steal your soul.

Steve_o

Smart Bug wrote: »

there are some nice ladies out there!

LIES!!!!

javaboy

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Just feel glad that the really nasty horrible bitches make themselves known so easily these days before they have a chance to break your heart and steal your soul.

I'm scouring PI for the story behind this post. Did you go unregged or what? :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

sunnyside wrote: »

I do often wonder why Irish people have this worldwide reputation for being so friendly. I think a lot of us Irish are anything but friendly.

Celtic Tiger. We hake a bit of cash, we think we're BIG. Who was it that described Ireland as a pimp in a halting site...? Certainly attarcting the 'hos

mrDuke

Iv been shot down like that before by and irish girl in sydney :P
Been turned down a few times at home but alot nicer.
In Norway i found a girl would make an excuse and leave :P
In UK i found the lady wanted to talk more cuase she loved the accent :P
In asia i was beating the women away from me :P even non asia women
In ozz women love to chat, for you to hit on them and even if you dont come away with a lady from it iv ended up being introducted to the ladys friends, family, to live with them all after a few drinks and an original chat up. So Irish girls get your act together, go to the pub, socialise, be friendly and have fun no need to ruin someone elses night for no reason, unfortunately the irish girls reading this arent the ones that need to.

skywalker

Neesa wrote: »

You see it all the time on the roads too. A man lets a woman through and again, no acknowledgement that he has done her a bit of a favour. Some women expect others (especially men) to bow down to down just because they are a woman. Great example there of equality, girls.

Have to say this is one Ive noticed recently. Its rare also that you get a woman letting anyone out.

thelordofcheese

Smart Bug wrote: »

there are some nice ladies out there!

*gasp*
you can't lie on the internet!

dr.bollocko

javaboy wrote: »

I'm scouring PI for the story behind this post. Did you go unregged or what? :pac:

I been outta the GAME for years man. Any major life issues I have get solved by the t-dome these days.

golum

not only are foreign women more approachable and friedliet, they're generally also a damn sight more attractive
let's hope the recession doesn't cause the ladies to leave

Steve_o

skywalker wrote: »

Its A cold day in hell before you get a woman letting anyone out.

Fixed that for ya...

Dave147

The best is when you strike up a conversation with a chick out of pure boredom, like I would say hello to a girl and not even find her the least bit attractive, just saying hello and all of a sudden they look at you like you've four heads, I just smile and turn away from them instantly. And what I would be thinking to myself, which is also fact (they go hand in hand :P) is, you should be so lucky I'm ****ing talking to you, because look around, no one else is. You fugly bitch.

Hate these ignorant girls, in conclusion

Bendihorse

'Irish Wimmen' this and 'Foreign Wimmen that'

Y. A. W. N.

GET OVER IT ALREADY - Sheesh :rolleyes:

I would never tell a guy to **** off, i might belittle him with an 'as if' look if i thought he looked like a cocky fcuker and was acting like i should feel honoured that he was gracing me with his presence... 'Irish Men' they are SO cocky these days *SIGH* why cant they be more like their foreign counter parts and romance a woman properly and not get drunk or abusive or go around in packs attempting to chat a woman up while staring at her tits...

I for one preder Irish Men - for all their faults! I dont personally know any men that would prefer to be going out with a foreign girl to an irish one... So guys in AH, stop trying to convince us 'Irish Wimmen' that we are somehow lesser than than the foreign girls (who are indeed lovely in their own right, but no lovlier than our own) as I for one, am not buying it.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Bendihorse wrote: »

'Irish Wimmen' this and 'Foreign Wimmen that'

Y. A. W. N.

GET OVER IT ALREADY - Sheesh :rolleyes:

Who's point are you making, here?

Steve_o

Bendihorse wrote: »

'Irish Wimmen' this and 'Foreign Wimmen that'

Y. A. W. N.

GET OVER IT ALREADY - Sheesh :rolleyes:

no