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shuffles03 · 16-01-2011 1:47pm

Is Precision Engineered Whey Protein any good? I usually buy Gold Standard but I was in Holland & Barrett yesterday and they are selling this stuff for €20 at the moment (really tempting). I'm just a bit wary as it's so cheap. It won't make you gain weight will it?

Rycn · 16-01-2011 2:20pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Is Precision Engineered Whey Protein any good? I usually buy Gold Standard but I was in Holland & Barrett yesterday and they are selling this stuff for €20 at the moment (really tempting). I'm just a bit wary as it's so cheap. It won't make you gain weight will it?

"Whey Protein" is generally all the same, it's just a convenient source of protein.

Weight gain will depend on the rest of your diet.

If it's cheap then buy it.

gymsoldier · 16-01-2011 3:34pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Is Precision Engineered Whey Protein any good? I usually buy Gold Standard but I was in Holland & Barrett yesterday and they are selling this stuff for €20 at the moment (really tempting). I'm just a bit wary as it's so cheap. It won't make you gain weight will it?

All Whey is not created equally. Both the ONs and H&B are a blended whey protein. I would stick with the ONs as it is higher in protein gram for gram. Ons also less fat, and although the same carbs, it has less sugar.

Ideally you would want to be taking a high quality Whey Isolate.

GymSoldier

jasonf9ace · 16-01-2011 7:53pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Is Precision Engineered Whey Protein any good? I usually buy Gold Standard but I was in Holland & Barrett yesterday and they are selling this stuff for €20 at the moment (really tempting). I'm just a bit wary as it's so cheap. It won't make you gain weight will it?

looks alright here > http://dietarysupplements.nlm.nih.gov/dietary/detail.jsp?fulltext=&contain=21004012&name=Precision+Engineered+Whey+Protein+Powder&pageD=brand . How much you getting for €20? i usually buy mine on the internet quality stuff at a great price at my protein > http://www.myprotein.com/IE/products/impact-whey-protein . or bulkpowders > http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/index.php?xSearch=%A4cy=2 . Deliverys 5 euro at myprotein and £10 at bulkpowders for as much products and weight as you like

overhand_right · 16-01-2011 11:42pm

Was in the gym today and a couple of the guys were talking about talking MSM anyone have any experience using it??

gymsoldier · 17-01-2011 6:51pm

overhand_right wrote: »

Was in the gym today and a couple of the guys were talking about talking MSM anyone have any experience using it??

Have you got problems with your joints? Ive always just used Glucosamine when im experiencing joint pain, when my really intake of oils isnt doing the job, and its worked for me.

MrMcLegend · 18-01-2011 4:29pm

im currently back training fairly seriously in the gym and playing football and i bought some weight gainer and whey protein to help with my strength etc!
im taking the weight gainer before training as it has a lot of carbs and the whey protein after and was jus wondering is this the right thing to do???
i also take the whey protein on days off for recovery!!

any comments or suggestions would be appreciated!
i know this may open a can of worms as everyone in a gym seems to know what the right thing to do is!

BigDuffman · 18-01-2011 4:34pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Have you got problems with your joints? Ive always just used Glucosamine when im experiencing joint pain, when my really intake of oils isnt doing the job, and its worked for me.

+1 I've been using fish oils + Glucosamine for a while now.

Was initially using some H&B generic stuff.

But I switched to Optimum Nutrition Fish Oils 200's and Glucosamine CSA and have had great results. The fish oil caps are cocnut coated so dont have that oily after taste.

Also tried MM Ache Free.

Slugs · 19-01-2011 10:41am

Hey guys, where' s the best place to get flaxseed/linseed oil. Can't seem to find it in any department store. Is it one of those niche products that only H&B sell?

Rycn · 19-01-2011 10:57am

Slugs wrote: »

Hey guys, where' s the best place to get flaxseed/linseed oil. Can't seem to find it in any department store. Is it one of those niche products that only H&B sell?

H&B sell ground flaxseed or the oil itself.

I prefer the ground seed, more natural and full of fibre.

gerryatric · 20-01-2011 9:15pm

Hi all, just noticing Holland and Barrett are having a buy one get 50% off sale.
Is there anything recommended that would be a must have for someone trying to get in shape?

MACT1RE · 22-01-2011 12:48pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Ideally you would want to be taking a high quality Whey Isolate.

GymSoldier

So what’s the best Brand of Whey Protein to buy and would it be better for you unflavored?

At the moment I’m taking the H&B Precision Engineered Strawberry.

gymsoldier · 22-01-2011 3:31pm

MACT1RE wrote: »

So what’s the best Brand of Whey Protein to buy and would it be better for you unflavored?

At the moment I’m taking the H&B Precision Engineered Strawberry.

I use Ultimate Nutrition ISO 93 Whey Isolate. 30grams protein per 32gram scoop,with only 1gram of carbohydrate.

MACT1RE · 22-01-2011 3:48pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

I use Ultimate Nutrition ISO 93 Whey Isolate. 30grams protein per 32gram scoop,with only 1gram of carbohydrate.

Sounds good, where are you getting that, online?

jasonf9ace · 22-01-2011 7:32pm

MACT1RE wrote: »

Sounds good, where are you getting that, online?

dont really think you need isolate unless your lactose intolerent or planning on entering a bodybuilding competition soon. Heres an example of myprotein products whey isolate >
Per 30g:
Energy: 111.0Kcal
Energy: 472.0KJ
Protein (dry basis): 27.9g
Protein (as-is): 27.7g
Fat: 0.3g
Carbohydrates: 0.2g
Calcium: 120.0mg
Cholesterol: 0.6mg

and whey concentrate >
Per 30g:
Energy: 118.0Kcal
Energy: 497.0kJ
Protein (dry basis): 24.6g
Protein (as-is): 23.6g
Fat: 2.1g
Carbohydrates: 1.8g
Calcium: 150.0mg
Cholesterol: 0.6mg

gymsoldier · 23-01-2011 12:44pm

jasonf9ace wrote: »

dont really think you need isolate unless your lactose intolerent or planning on entering a bodybuilding competition soon.

Do you actually know what the difference between Isolate and Concentrate is?
And don't just google me a response, to say that its just for two different groups of people is ludacris. Can I only start using Isolate pre-contest?

jasonf9ace · 23-01-2011 1:16pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Do you actually know what the difference between Isolate and Concentrate is?
And don't just google me a response, to say that its just for two different groups of people is ludacris. Can I only start using Isolate pre-contest?

i do indeed isolates more filtered so its more "pure" ie less fat and lactose per serving and contains more protein per serving compared to concentrate. Anyone can use isolate when they want if they wanna pay more for a slightly better protein ratio and less fat and carbs.If you have bloating issues over lactose then isolates more likely gonna work better for most. Thats the jist of it that i get with the differents of isolate and concentrate or am i missing something magical about isolate that i didnt discover yet?

gymsoldier · 23-01-2011 2:43pm

jasonf9ace wrote: »

i do indeed isolates more filtered so its more "pure" ie less fat and lactose per serving and contains more protein per serving compared to concentrate. Anyone can use isolate when they want if they wanna pay more for a slightly better protein ratio and less fat and carbs.If you have bloating issues over lactose then isolates more likely gonna work better for most. Thats the jist of it that i get with the differents of isolate and concentrate or am i missing something magical about isolate that i didnt discover yet?

Nice googling, yeah you forgot that its only for the pre-contest bodybuilder

Hanley · 23-01-2011 2:50pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Nice googling, yeah you forgot that its only for the pre-contest bodybuilder

What's wrong with what he said there?

the drifter · 23-01-2011 2:53pm

Hanley wrote: »

What's wrong with what he said there?

+1

the man put forward what he understood...then asked if he was missing something...i see nothing wrong with that

Inspector Coptoor · 23-01-2011 2:54pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

And don't just google me a response, to say that its just for two different groups of people is ludacris. Can I only start using Isolate pre-contest?

high horse.
get off it like a good fella

UnknownSpecies · 23-01-2011 2:55pm

Lads, just wondering for anyone who uses ON Gold Standard Whey, where is the cheapest place online to buy? I can't seem to find anywhere cheaper then €50 including postage! Cheers in advance!

itsallaboutheL · 23-01-2011 2:56pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

high horse.
get off it like a good fella

fuck your Isolate i have a horse outside?

Inspector Coptoor · 23-01-2011 3:03pm

dorgasm wrote: »

Lads, just wondering for anyone who uses ON Gold Standard Whey, where is the cheapest place online to buy? I can't seem to find anywhere cheaper then €50 including postage! Cheers in advance!

2 euro cheaper and free delivery.

http://www.universalnutrition.ie/viewproduct/20

you could always go for the bigger bag.
89 euro and free delivery

gymsoldier · 23-01-2011 4:21pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

2 euro cheaper and free delivery.

http://www.universalnutrition.ie/viewproduct/20

you could always go for the bigger bag.
89 euro and free delivery

Its only free delevery if you spend 50e or more, get a shaker to make it up to 50e

gymsoldier · 23-01-2011 4:23pm

Hanley wrote: »

What's wrong with what he said there?

the drifter wrote: »

+1

the man put forward what he understood...then asked if he was missing something...i see nothing wrong with that

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

high horse.
get off it like a good fella

Lets all gang up on me. Power in numbers.

itsallaboutheL · 23-01-2011 4:25pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Lets all gang up on me. Power in numbers.

there's about 300kg right there :pac:

Rycn · 23-01-2011 4:34pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Lets all gang up on me. Power in numbers.

You're a soldier, deal with it.

gymsoldier · 23-01-2011 5:24pm

Rycn wrote: »

You're a soldier, deal with it.

Ha thanks

jasonf9ace · 23-01-2011 5:38pm

gymsoldier wrote: »

Nice googling, yeah you forgot that its only for the pre-contest bodybuilder

nice googling?most people do a little research before buying a product,especially if its a product your gonna consume regularly,but i guess your one of the lucky ones where you knew this since you were in nappies i suppose

, my origanal post was that theres no need to pay the extra money really for isolate unless your lactose intolerent or on a strict diet where every gram counts like a bodybuilder pre contest.Whats your great arguement then why the good man should pay extra for isolate?

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