Shooting at Bray Boxing Club, 1 killed, 2 seriously injured...

05-06-2018 08:13AM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/bray-shooting-2-4053140-Jun2018/

Three men have been taken to hospital in a "serious condition" following an early morning shooting at Bray Boxing Club, one of them "critical".

The shooter(s) reportedly fled in a silver/white van with "British number plates".

Newstalk are discussing it as gangland-related.

White lighting · 05-06-2018 08:18AM

Pete Taylor one of the three shot. One man dead. I wonder has this any connection to Petes relationship with the extremely controversial boxing gym/team MKM

GM228 · 05-06-2018 08:20AM

White lighting wrote: »

Pete Taylor one of the three shot. One man dead. I wonder has this any connection to Petes relationship with the extremely controversial boxing gym/team MKM

Remember this

https://independent.ie/irish-news/news/i-can-train-who-i-want-says-pete-taylor-after-kinahan-boxer-link-revealed-35983399.html

"I can train who I want"....

Beechwoodspark · 05-06-2018 08:21AM

English reg van apparently

DellyBelly · 05-06-2018 08:26AM

Boxing seems to attract the scummiest of people. Even though I'd have a passing interest in would never attend a fight night in Ireland.

05-06-2018 08:33AM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Boxing seems to attract the scummiest of people. Even though I'd have a passing interest in would never attend a fight night in Ireland.

It’s an awful thing for all the decent people involved in boxing who wouldn’t want any part of this. Katie Taylor and her mother have been deeply hurt by the actions of her father versus the Christian values and principles he allegedly held. Seems by the looks of things he mixed with some unsavoury people. Very distressing for Katie and her family, and for all in boxing who are disciplined athletes in it for the sport and want nothing of this in their lives.

05-06-2018 08:34AM

Gangland thread here too if you’re interested.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057832446/1

JohnnyFlash · 05-06-2018 08:42AM

Boxing seems to attract travellers, criminals, and league of Ireland supporters.

05-06-2018 08:44AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Gangland thread here too if you’re interested.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057832446/1

I didn't know there was a gangland thread already when I made this thread. Maybe this one is unnecessary then, if the mods want to do something about that.

josip · 05-06-2018 08:51AM

Was Pete Taylor a target this morning, a bystander or intervened because it was one of his guys getting shot?

Donald Trump · 05-06-2018 08:58AM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Bray Boxing seems to attract the scummiest of people.

FYP

seamus · 05-06-2018 09:09AM

The Taylors were very quiet about the reason why Katie dropped Pete as her coach.

I wonder did she see him getting involved with a certain type of crowd and decide that she didn't need that distraction.

In terms of boxing "attracting" scum, I think it's more of a correlation thing than causation. Boxing as a sport is relatively cheap, and is popular in working-class areas as a place for troubled kids to get out their anger and learn some self-control. Your chances of "success" in boxing are also considerably better than something like soccer.
In middle and upper-class areas, fighting other people for sport is considered low-brow, so they pay to see poor people beat eachother up rather than get involved themselves.

Of course nothing is a magic bullet and a kid who starts boxing to try and turn his troubled life around, is probably just going to be a troubled kid who's good at boxing. And he knows other troubled kids, and probably has family who are similar. And so a hotbox of criminality builds up around the boxing club. Even if it's not the main trainers getting involved, there are people using and hanging around the club who are involved in criminal activity.

The description of a white van with UK reg plates suggest it was probably a traveller gang who carried out this shooting.

My sympathies with Katie Taylor who seems like a genuine person, and regardless of anything her Dad may or may not have done I'm sure she's climbing the walls right now.

WinnyThePoo · 05-06-2018 09:17AM

He that got a teenager pregnant. I don't know about gangland

josip · 05-06-2018 09:18AM

RTE have said that a 57 year old was injured which would match Pete Taylor's age.
The 30 year old has died.

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0605/968211-bray/

sbsquarepants · 05-06-2018 09:20AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Boxing seems to attract travellers, criminals, and league of Ireland supporters.

All best avoided:D

nowaynever · 05-06-2018 09:29AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

FYP

Ah, you live there then?

steddyeddy · 05-06-2018 09:37AM

seamus wrote: »

The Taylors were very quiet about the reason why Katie dropped Pete as her coach.

I wonder did she see him getting involved with a certain type of crowd and decide that she didn't need that distraction.

In terms of boxing "attracting" scum, I think it's more of a correlation thing than causation. Boxing as a sport is relatively cheap, and is popular in working-class areas as a place for troubled kids to get out their anger and learn some self-control. Your chances of "success" in boxing are also considerably better than something like soccer.
In middle and upper-class areas, fighting other people for sport is considered low-brow, so they pay to see poor people beat eachother up rather than get involved themselves.

Of course nothing is a magic bullet and a kid who starts boxing to try and turn his troubled life around, is probably just going to be a troubled kid who's good at boxing. And he knows other troubled kids, and probably has family who are similar. And so a hotbox of criminality builds up around the boxing club. Even if it's not the main trainers getting involved, there are people using and hanging around the club who are involved in criminal activity.

The description of a white van with UK reg plates suggest it was probably a traveller gang who carried out this shooting.

My sympathies with Katie Taylor who seems like a genuine person, and regardless of anything her Dad may or may not have done I'm sure she's climbing the walls right now.

Ask Katie's mother why and you'll get the real answer. I don't think it's Pete's company as much as his behavior that's the problem.

Donald Trump · 05-06-2018 09:38AM

nowaynever wrote: »

Ah, you live there then?

My advisors are torn between me keeping my nukes for strategic purposes in case Kim Jong Jong Un needs a straightener, or just going ahead and nuking Bray at the behest of the Irish government (and UN)

murpho999 · 05-06-2018 09:42AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

FYP

Stupid comment, this is gangland crap, nothing to do with Bray.

Donald Trump · 05-06-2018 09:45AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Stupid comment, this is gangland crap, nothing to do with Bray.

And what has it to do with boxing as a sport?

Or League of Ireland supporters? - None of whom would be let darken the door of any remotely respectable club :pac:

murpho999 · 05-06-2018 09:51AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

And what has it to do with boxing as a sport?

Or League of Ireland supporters? - None of whom would be let darken the door of any remotely respectable club :pac:

There are alleged connections between Pete Taylor, who is now confirmed as shot and members of the Kinahan family that he coached there.

No need to spread crap about a whole town.

This is to do with one individual and the choices he made.

P.Walnuts · 05-06-2018 09:51AM

seamus wrote: »

The description of a white van with UK reg plates suggest it was probably a traveller gang who carried out this shooting.

Ffs

You do know, this may come as a surprise, that anyone can buy a white van?

dbas · 05-06-2018 09:54AM

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Ffs

You do know, this may come as a surprise, that anyone can buy a white van?

I've one to sell. Northern plates. Need gone very fast.

GM228 · 05-06-2018 09:55AM

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Ffs

You do know, this may come as a surprise, that anyone can buy a white van?

Or rather steal one which is what usually happens for a shooting.

Skobey_brady · 05-06-2018 09:55AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Boxing seems to attract travellers, criminals, and league of Ireland supporters.

In defence of travellers, they genuinely love the sport and in my opinion the best travellers are the ones who are into boxing

Donald Trump · 05-06-2018 09:55AM

murpho999 wrote: »

There are alleged connections between Pete Taylor, who is now confirmed as shot and members of the Kinahan family that he coached there.

No need to spread crap about a whole town.

This is to do with one individual and the choices he made.

First up, it's called a joke.

(That sentence could refer to the content of my post, or the town itself)

Second, even if you autistically took it literally, it not say anything bad about the town, only that it attracted certain categories. I did not say that all, many, or any of the people in that town were belonging to those categories.

I also didn't say that they weren't though :pac:

tomofson · 05-06-2018 10:16AM

Either related to the Hutch kinahan feud or traveller feud, your guess is as good as mine at this stage.

Most likely Hutch kinahan, didn't the hutches use vans like that in a previous high profiled attack.

Someone mentioned a name on journal.ie regarding the deceased, name doesn't ring any bells regarding organized crime.

05-06-2018 10:16AM

Skobey_brady wrote: »

In defence of travellers, they genuinely love the sport and in my opinion the best travellers are the ones who are into boxing

They’ve represented this country at the Olympic Games also, that’s only to be commended.

05-06-2018 10:24AM

Another Hutch hit (obvious by the fact the target wasn’t the one who was killed).

RacoonQueen · 05-06-2018 10:25AM

tomofson wrote: »

Either related to the Hutch kinahan feud or traveller feud, your guess is as good as mine at this stage.

Most likely Hutch kinahan, didn't the hutches use vans like that in a previous high profiled attack.

Someone mentioned a name on journal.ie regarding the deceased, name doesn't ring any bells regarding organized crime.

Deceased rumoured to be innocent and got caught in the crossfire. I have not idea how reliable that information is.

murpho999 · 05-06-2018 10:27AM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Deceased rumoured to be innocent and got caught in the crossfire. I have not idea how reliable that information is.

That's what I'm hearing too.

A guy who was there for "boxercise"just opened the door and was shot.

That's why I never agree with people saying that it's ok for "scumbags to obliterate each other". Too many people innocent people are being caught up in it.
Imagine the trauma of bystanders there this morning if any.

Shooting at Bray Boxing Club, 1 killed, 2 seriously injured...

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