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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • #9002
    hollypink
    Registered Users Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭hollypink


    GarIT wrote: »
    That is a load of nonsense. I have a strong dislike of Bailey but that article is just putting people against people, arguing for reduced claims when claims haven't gone up only insurance company profits have.

    What we need is a single public insurer.

    If the problem is due to high profits for insurance companies, why are insurers pulling out of the Irish market?

    https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/thousands-of-jobs-at-risk-after-main-insurer-for-leisure-sector-pulls-out-38329493.html


  • #9003
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    GarIT wrote: »
    That is a load of nonsense. I have a strong dislike of Bailey but that article is just putting people against people, arguing for reduced claims when claims haven't gone up only insurance company profits have.

    What we need is a single public insurer.


    People are against people. Good people are sick of the spongers walking around who think it is ok to sue everyone else in the World.


    Anyone caught doing it should have to pay all courts fees and then pay stress money to the person they sued. At the moment you have people with 3-4 cases lined up in court.....


    How exactly will a single public insurer work? sure they couldjust name their price and you would ahve no alternative?

    As mentioned if theinsurance companies are making so much money why are they pulling out?

    Why have we huge insurance companies based in Ireland and they wont insure a single Irish driver? they only insure UK drivers. I know one company with 300+ staff sitting in Dublin who wont insure Irish drivers because of the claims.....


  • #9004
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Pintman you're wrong again, same as you were yesterday. Story dead by the Summer recess.lol.


  • #9005
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Pintman you're wrong again, same as you were yesterday. Story dead by the Summer recess.lol.


    Its a long time since poor old pintman got anything right to be honest..... :P:P:P:P

    Even him banging on it will be forgotten by Sept is keeping it in everyone mind....


    Poor old Maria is trying to keep the head down but once it pops up you can be sure everyone will be watching.....


  • #9006
    K.Flyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    GarIT wrote: »

    What we need is a single public insurer.

    What we really need is certain people in society learning to take responsibility for their own ineptitude or stupid actions.
    Same such actions which have resulted in ridiculous payouts causing the crisis that exists today.
    Judges giving payments for people's stupid behaviour is what needs addressing and a message sent out that you cannot throw in a claim against someone just because you were acting the eejit.
    I say solicitors and judiciary are the root of the problem.


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  • #9007
    downtheroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    What we really need is certain people in society learning to take responsibility for their own ineptitude or stupid actions.
    Same such actions which have resulted in ridiculous payouts causing the crisis that exists today.
    Judges giving payments for people's stupid behaviour is what needs addressing and a message sent out that you cannot throw in a claim against someone just because you were acting the eejit.
    I say solicitors and judiciary are the root of the problem.

    You can add certain members of the medical profession, who sign off on all sorts of spurious claims by claimants and submit medical reports to court supporting the claims that are being submitted on a daily basis at the moment.


  • #9008
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Harney the Minister responsible who created the HSE and a double layer of management and bureaucracy as well as outsourcing smear tests to the US.

    I do not know about outsourcing of tests but the reason there was no redundancies from the Health Boards lies with Bertie Ahern

    Harney was overruled

    And hey Fianna Fail got 77 seats in the next election two years later so you could say they were rewarded by voters. They were not punished anyway


  • #9009
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,267 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I see Coveney is now getting the blame for Leo not cutting Bailey loose.
    I wonder will this have the potential to split the FG party?


  • #9010
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Harney the Minister responsible who created the HSE and a double layer of management and bureaucracy as well as outsourcing smear tests to the US. Lots of women with cancer now would strongly disagree that Harney "stood out" :rolleyes: Her decisions as Minister for Health have literally cost people their lives

    I don't want to derail this thread, but I think if you understand what went on in CervicalCheck you'd know that your statement is simplistic and very far from proven, but that's all in another thread:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057868174


  • #9011
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I see Coveney is now getting the blame for Leo not cutting Bailey loose.
    I wonder will this have the potential to split the FG party?

    First Bruton and now Coveney backing Bailey. I don't know how many more of the FG leadership that I previously held in high regard are going to disappoint me by backing this fraudulent dope. They just keep on going back for more punishment.


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  • #9012
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I see Coveney is now getting the blame for Leo not cutting Bailey loose.
    I wonder will this have the potential to split the FG party?

    This sounds very suspect, as if the story has been leaked to put Leo in a better light for letting her off the hook.
    Why on earth would Coveney have backed her when the level of outrage & public opinion against her was so strong.

    Maybe Coveney has a European slot lined up and is not bothered about succeeding Leo here so he is taking the hit for him.

    Either way, this neverending FF support of FG because they don't want to rock the Brexit boat is getting out of hand. The government are coasting along the last 18 months with the opposition happy to keep the status quo, nothing of note being achieved by the government now...


  • #9013
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,267 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    UsBus wrote: »
    This sounds very suspect, as if the story has been leaked to put Leo in a better light for letting her off the hook.
    Why on earth would Coveney have backed her when the level of outrage & public opinion against her was so strong.

    Maybe Coveney has a European slot lined up and is not bothered about succeeding Leo here so he is taking the hit for him.

    Either way, this neverending FF support of FG because they don't want to rock the Brexit boat is getting out of hand. The government are coasting along the last 18 months with the opposition happy to keep the status quo, nothing of note being achieved by the government now...

    Maybe he wants Trickle Hogan’s old job. Chancers the lot of them.


  • #9014
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    I thought Coveney was supposed to be the smart one.

    Or is Leo trying to throw him under the bus?


  • #9015
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,267 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    dresden8 wrote: »
    I thought Coveney was supposed to be the smart one.

    Or is Leo trying to throw him under the bus?

    I don’t think Leo actually has many smarts. Also talking of backing or even joining a FF Govt. That seems to have rankled a lot of his own party too.

    As I said earlier in the thread, he’s a loose cannon. Can’t keep his mouth shut.


  • #9016
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Harney the Minister responsible who created the HSE and a double layer of management and bureaucracy as well as outsourcing smear tests to the US. Lots of women with cancer now would strongly disagree that Harney "stood out" Her decisions as Minister for Health have literally cost people their lives
    Yeah, she was the best of a pretty bad bunch. Outsourcing in its own right did not cause the situation. Lack of proper oversight of the labs doing work cost people's lives. She introduced the idea of cancer centres and if you think the HSE is bad, the bloated regional model that came before it was as much of a disaster. Let's hope the new version of that is an improved one.


  • #9017
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    dresden8 wrote: »
    I thought Coveney was supposed to be the smart one.

    Or is Leo trying to throw him under the bus?
    One of these things is true! Coveney has played a blinder on Brexit, this "story" is piffle by comparison.


  • #9018
    Robert McGrath
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭Robert McGrath


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Yeah, she was the best of a pretty bad bunch. Outsourcing in its own right did not cause the situation. Lack of proper oversight of the labs doing work cost people's lives. She introduced the idea of cancer centres and if you think the HSE is bad, the bloated regional model that came before it was as much of a disaster. Let's hope the new version of that is an improved one.

    My understanding is that there was a huge backlog of smear tests in a disorganised and disjointed screening system before CervicalCheck was set up in 2008. Outsourcing was therefore necessary to clear that backlog. Given the year on year reduction in cervical cancer deaths since then, it is arguable that outsourcing actually saved lives as part of the new programme - it is undeniable that CervicalCheck has saved lives. The independent reviews and reports to date have given no reason to believe that the Irish system does not produce results in line with international norms.

    I believe Harney also introduced the HPV vaccine programme in Ireland.

    It’s really unfortunate that what should be one of her proudest achievements is being used as a stick to beat her with


  • #9019
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    One of these things is true! Coveney has played a blinder on Brexit, this "story" is piffle by comparison.

    Small fires keep you warm, but big fires burn you.

    Brexit, for the most part is beyond our (as tax paying voters) control, if the Brits want to self inflict damage upon themselves, there's only so much (or little) we can do about that.

    TDs in govt party's lodging spurious injury claims against Irish businesses, (aided and abetted by govt ministers) and the knock on effect these claims are having on us, can very much be under our control.

    I cannot wait for the election to get into full swing (no pun intended) it doesn't matter two shytes to me (and I'm sure I ain't alone) whether Maria Bailey is dropped from the ticket or not, this story broke in May, they did shag all about her dodgy dealings since.

    Insurance fraud is A-OK with leo and the lads.


  • #9020
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Maria was front page news again today. I saw her on the Examiner this morning. Something about Coveney convincing Leo not to sack her.


  • #9021
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    is_that_so wrote: »
    One of these things is true! Coveney has played a blinder on Brexit, this "story" is piffle by comparison.

    How exactly has he played a blinder?

    Nothing has been agreed and FG and hiding behind Europe instead of leading the discussions


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  • #9022
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I don’t think Leo actually has many smarts. Also talking of backing or even joining a FF Govt. That seems to have rankled a lot of his own party too.

    Has it? I would have thought most in FG would be happy to return the confidence and supply favour if FF was the largest party. Although maybe they'd prefer if Leo didn't talk openly about that scenario in advance of the election...


  • #9023
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Until you manage to label Martin an utter or thundering disgrace! :)

    Is that so !!;)


  • #9024
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    is_that_so wrote: »
    One of these things is true! Coveney has played a blinder on Brexit, this "story" is piffle by comparison.

    Ah will you stop! Nobody has played a blinder on Brexit.

    Coveney is no genius either. He always comes across to me as a modern Enda Kenny. He seems to rinse and repeat a lot of his rhetoric and needs to be constantly coached i.e. not good at on-the-spot thinking.


  • #9025
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    is_that_so wrote: »
    One of these things is true! Coveney has played a blinder on Brexit, this "story" is piffle by comparison.

    I'll bite, what exactly has Coveney done in relation to Brexit?


  • #9026
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Coveney was the only one coming out of this looking good but now he made a pigs ear out of that

    I never understood those who said Coveney could be some kind of FG saviour given his close connections to Peter Sutherland and Bilderberg.

    A person who represents the people going to secret meetings is by default just is not right.


  • #9027
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    How exactly has he played a blinder?

    Nothing has been agreed and FG and hiding behind Europe instead of leading the discussions
    How can a national government be leading EU discussions, pray tell?


  • #9028
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'll bite, what exactly has Coveney done in relation to Brexit?
    Calm, consistently emphasising our positions, faced down any UK nonsense and challenged them to provide alternatives and at least given the impression he is at the core of our own planning. That's a good job from me. In the Brexit classroom that is top of the class!


  • #9029
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Is that so !!;)
    No, With a "?"!:)


  • #9030
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Calm, consistently emphasising our positions, faced down any UK nonsense and challenged them to provide and at least given the impression he is at the core of our own planning. In the Brexit classroom that is top of the class!

    Hahahaha

    Pull the other one....don’t believe what RTÉ are posting.....best to look further afield if making statement like that


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  • #9031
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Hahahaha

    Pull the other one....don’t believe what RTÉ are posting.....best to look further afield if making statement like that
    Fair enough. What rock are you looking under?


  • #9032
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Calm, consistently emphasising our positions, faced down any UK nonsense and challenged them to provide alternatives and at least given the impression he is at the core of our own planning. That's a good job from me. In the Brexit classroom that is top of the class!

    There is very little evidence of any planning. Just talk about planning.

    Coveney is consistently spouting out the broken record that he has been told to say. He shows no skills for critical thinking or visionary thinking. He is Enda Mark II. Completely and constantly coached.

    Faced down any UK nonsense? :D I would say 99% of UK MPs don't know his name!


  • #9033
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    There is very little evidence of any planning. Just talk about planning.

    Coveney is consistently spouting out the broken record that he has been told to say. He shows no skills for critical thinking or visionary thinking. He is Enda Mark II.

    Faced down any UK nonsense? :D I doubt most of the MPs know his name!
    Most MPs don't even know what they're voting for so hardly a standard. What visionary stuff are you looking for? As for the planning thing, not seeming to have a plan is actually a good bargaining chip. Really don't want to give Boris any excuse to claim we don't need the backstop.


  • #9034
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Calm, consistently emphasising our positions, faced down any UK nonsense and challenged them to provide alternatives and at least given the impression he is at the core of our own planning. That's a good job from me. In the Brexit classroom that is top of the class!

    So he memorized a script and stuck to it. Basically nothing so. Thanks for the clarity.


  • #9035
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Outsourcing in its own right did not cause the situation. Lack of proper oversight of the labs doing work cost people's lives.

    Screening isn't infallible and there hasn't been the sort of blinded testing to show that the labs were performing suboptimally. It's too strong a claim to say women have lost their lives due to the current arrangements. I'm not going to defend everything within CervicalCheck by any means, but we shouldn't throw claims around.


  • #9036
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Fair enough. What rock are you looking under?

    Ahh little insults

    None of the Irish government are coming out of this with any positives

    What exactly have they done for Ireland?


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  • #9037
    Auguste Comte
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Ahh little insults

    It's the Fine Gael way around here.


  • #9038
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    I see FG top the poll yet again in the latest Red C poll. Wonderful stuff. The doom and gloom predictions here from "former FG supporters" are obviously nonsense.

    Also heartening to see SF failing miserably at the polls.


  • #9039
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Robert McGrath wrote: »
    My understanding is that there was a huge backlog of smear tests in a disorganised and disjointed screening system before CervicalCheck was set up in 2008. Outsourcing was therefore necessary to clear that backlog. Given the year on year reduction in cervical cancer deaths since then, it is arguable that outsourcing actually saved lives as part of the new programme - it is undeniable that CervicalCheck has saved lives. The independent reviews and reports to date have given no reason to believe that the Irish system does not produce results in line with international norms.

    I believe Harney also introduced the HPV vaccine programme in Ireland.

    It’s really unfortunate that what should be one of her proudest achievements is being used as a stick to beat her with

    The vaccine is made here too for the world market


  • #9040
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    I see FG top the poll yet again in the latest Red C poll. Wonderful stuff. The doom and gloom predictions here from "former FG supporters" are obviously nonsense.

    Also heartening to see SF failing miserably at the polls.

    You miss the bit where FF have gone up 4 points and are nearly level with FG

    If you see that as a win then things are really gone to s**t in FG


  • #9041
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    I see FG top the poll yet again in the latest Red C poll. Wonderful stuff. The doom and gloom predictions here from "former FG supporters" are obviously nonsense.

    Also heartening to see SF failing miserably at the polls.
    Fine Gael is up a point in the latest Sunday Business Post / Red C poll to 29%.

    But Fianna Fail has shot up 4 points - to 28% support overall.

    Just for clarity Paddy, and bear in mind that when an election campaign is officially launched, that CCTV footage, and further details of Jospepha Madigans involvement will most likely get dropped into the mix by a very eager indo.

    Also, I guess the irony of constantly telling people the story is finished while simultaneously keeping the story alive by contributing to the thread is lost on you.

    Not the fizziest tin in the fridge, are we?


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    WishUWereHere
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    

    I see FG top the poll yet again in the latest Red C poll. Wonderful stuff. The doom and gloom predictions here from "former FG supporters" are obviously nonsense.

    
Also heartening to see SF failing miserably at the polls.
    

    

    
Plucking at straws again Paddy. As hilighted elsewhere, you forgot to mention that FF are right behind you. And let place this on record, I have never, nor will I ever vote FG. Their TD down here in South Kildare is a Houdini, never to be seen - oh he’ on the tv right now. That’s what’s thought of him here, anywhere else but Kildare.

    
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    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    

    

    

    
Plucking at straws again Paddy. As hilighted elsewhere, you forgot to mention that FF are right behind you.

    
Heavens help the country though if that is all we have to persevere with!
    

    

    
He also doesn’t like the inconvenient fact that RedC has a heavy FG bias and what worse for him and FG it has a negative bias to FF.

    
I expect him to run away from facts but
    
Local Elections (last before election)
    
RedC FG- 28
    
Actual FG- 25

    
RedC FF- 24
    
Actual FF- 27

    
The last general election was even worse (this is broken down as SBP / Paddy Power since RedC did separate polls for each)
    
RedC FG- 30 / 30
    
Actual FG- 25.5

    
The Paddy Power one was closest to the election.

    
RedC FF- 18 / 20
    
Actual FF- 24

    
Given RedC performance to date I’d say that this would be FF- 32 and FG- 26 in the general election. Obviously a lot can change from now til then, but if I’m in the FG backroom right now, I’m getting a bit worried.


    
Now I do agree with him that the election will not be won or lost solely on Maria Bailey, but this is an own goal that gets added to all their other woeful handlings. If someone is going between FF/FG this could push them over the edge to FF.

    
Quite frankly if FG were doing a good job, this wouldn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Varadkar is looking for excuses for his poor performance instead of looking in the mirror at the main culprit for it. 
    

    

    

     



    


     
     
    

    

    

    

    

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FG won't lose on the Maria Bailey mess

    
They will lose because of it and.....
    
Children Hospital
    
Broadband
    
Brexit
    
Lack of action on Climate
    
Farmer issues
    
RTE and television license
    
The total HSE mess
    
Insurance issues
    
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Maria Bailey

    
I am sure I can think of more but that's off top of head

    
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    Homelander wrote: »
    

    Cheek of Leo to come out yesterday as well and say he doesn't think the whole Maria Bailey thing will have any impact on the election. It's death by a thousand cuts, FG surely are internally bracing themselves for annihilation at the polls.
    

    
FG and FF now neck and neck according to the latest poll

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FG are not doing a bad job by irish standards. I don't see why they would be annihilated.

    
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    bilbot79 wrote: »
    

    FG are not doing a bad job by irish standards. I don't see why they would be annihilated.

    
People have a very short memory if they are OK with FF being in control
    

    

    
People have a short memory? It seems the collective memory of FG is shorter still. The current arrangement is contingent on FF's support which FG are happy to accept. Leo is on record as saying he will support a minority FF government if it arises . 
    

    

    

     



    


     
     
    

    

    

    

    

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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    

    FG won't lose on the Maria Bailey mess

    
They will lose because of it and.....
    
Children Hospital
    
Broadband
    
Brexit
    
Lack of action on Climate
    
Farmer issues
    
RTE and television license
    
The total HSE mess
    
Insurance issues
    
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Maria Bailey

    
I am sure I can think of more but that's off top of head

    
What do you think about that Paddy?
    

    

    
Irish Water and the jobs for the boys. 
    

    

    

     



    


     
     
    

    

    

    

    

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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    

    People have a short memory? It seems the collective memory of FG is shorter still. The current arrangement is contingent on FF's support which FG are happy to accept. Leo is on record as saying he will support a minority FF government if it arises .
    

    

    
FF shouldn't still exist. I'll never forget how they all bailed out with their fat pensions when the s*** hit the fan rather than stay and help clean up their mess. FG cleaned up their mess. 
    

    

    

     



    


     
     
    

    

    

    

    

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Plumbthedepths




    
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    bilbot79 wrote: »
    

    FF shouldn't still exist. I'll never forget how they all bailed out with their fat pensions when the s*** hit the fan rather than stay and help clean up their mess. FG cleaned up their mess.
    

    

    
FG cleaned up their mess? Thanks for the attempt at rewriting history. Btw it's FG's fault that FF are on the rise . 
    

    

    

     



    


     
     
    

    

    

    

    

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