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21-10-2020, 10:46   #5266
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Tua has been named the starting QB in Miami. It had to happen at some point but is after about two minutes against a god awful jets team in garbage time the time to do it ?
If it was in their head why not give him the full Jets game? That would make slightly more sense at least. He only made 2 throws I think against us, other than sitting on the field he'll be starting fresh with Donald staring him down for his first real action .
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21-10-2020, 11:08   #5267
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Well Twitter is full of crap so I'm not believing anything from unnamed sources.

You seen how long Jason Garrett got there so I can't see a Superbowl winning coach not getting the time to implement his system.
McCarthy will get a pass this year I think, certainly until the end of the season and probably in to 2021 but he is off to a really bad start. They will probably get rid of some position coaches at that stage. McCarthy is not calling the plays by all accounts.

If Dalton can get going they can probably still win the Division and get a home playoff game. Any decent team will destroy them in the postseason though.
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21-10-2020, 14:29   #5268
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There's nothing complicated about the Rams or niners for QB's.
I'll be taking the word of Shanahan's last 2 starting QBs (Ryan and Garoppolo) along with numerous other players on the offenses from all the teams Kyle has coached over yours when it comes to how difficult to initially get their heads around his playbook, despite how stripped back it was when he first installs it. There is a world of difference between the difficulty of throws a QB is asked to make on most Sundays in the scheme and the complexity the QB needs to understand and make decisions that impact how the overall offense performs in the system.

It is absolute nonsense the idea you can drop in an inconsistent journeyman into that scheme midseason and it'll be an improvement on a QB getting his form back post injury who just last season led the team to make a Super Bowl, especially when the journeyman's strengths don't even align to what is needed to run the scheme successfully.
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But we're not just talking about ANY old inconsistent journeyman here...

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The Raiders O-Line has had a Covid outbreak. They were due to be on the late game Sunday but it’s been swapped with the Seahawks/Cards to ensure there is a late game. The Raiders/Bucks game could be the latest Covid-victim
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24-10-2020, 00:20   #5271
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Seems Antonio brown is all but confirmed to sign with the bucs. It’s supposed to be a 1 year deal with insensitive built in.
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24-10-2020, 00:35   #5272
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Seems Antonio brown is all but confirmed to sign with the bucs. It’s supposed to be a 1 year deal with insensitive built in.
Appropriate typo there
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24-10-2020, 01:11   #5273
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If he was going anywhere I thought it might be there, he is from Florida and lives and trains there now. He looks up to Brady so there is at least some chance that Tom can keep him on the straight and narrow.

On the field this makes perfect sense, Evans and Godwin have both had injury issues and AB can fill any role required, outside, slot, doesn’t matter.

Bucs building nicely, great defence and that is some array of weapons Brady has now if he does sign there. Evans, Godwin, Brown & Gronk. Who do you cover?
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24-10-2020, 01:19   #5274
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Appropriate typo there
Okay what typo ? I’m not convinced he’ll even see out the year unless he’s addressed the other issues he’s had.

Edit: oh I see it. Incentive instead of insensitive.

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24-10-2020, 04:46   #5275
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He won't last, too much trouble. He will not be able to keep his mouth shut for a start. He can't fight with teammates or coaches either.
As for Tom Brady, he lasted less than two weeks in New England while Brady was there.
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He won't last, too much trouble. He will not be able to keep his mouth shut for a start. He can't fight with teammates or coaches either.
As for Tom Brady, he lasted less than two weeks in New England while Brady was there.
Was gonna say, not sure why we think Brady is a moderating influence on him, the only evidence we have suggests Brady is intolerant of bull****. And antonio brings a big pile of that everywhere he goes. Would love to see him back to his best though, he's phenomenal when he's on form.
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Taken from reddit, just in case someone hasn't been following him too closely



• Drove 100 down McKnight Road in Pittsburgh, which has a 45 MPH speed limit

• Trashed a condo and threw furniture out a window 14th floor window, which almost hit some people, notably a child

• Killed a home aquarium full of piranhas and refused to pay the man who installed the tank

• Refused to play week 17 for the Steelers

• Dyed his mustache blonde

• Refused to pay a chef because he thought he threatened him by placing a fish head in the freezer (the fish head was saved to make a soup)

• Farted on a doctor

• Demanded a trade from the Steelers

• Became "Mr. Big Chest"

• Threw a fit over Juju winning team MVP and trashed him on social media

• (Allegedly) nixed a trade that would've sent him to the Bills

• Showed up to Raiders training camp in a hot air balloon

• Held out and refused to show up to training camp because the NFL would not approve his helmet because it was too old for their safety standards

• Froze his feet

• Tried to paint over his old helmet, hoping no one would notice I guess

• Acquired a newer version of the same model of helmet, which the NFL refused to let him use

• Picked out a new helmet and finally showed up to the Raiders

• Got fined by the Raiders for not attending camp

• Tweeted the fines

• Tried to fight Mike Mayock, called him a cracker, had to be held back by Vontaze Burfict, then punted a football down the practice field and said "fine me for that"

• Got fined for that

• Released a video where he used audio of Jon Gruden, who didn't know he was being recorded, which is illegal in California (full disclosure, Gruden has said he gave permission, but the generally accepted theory is that he said that in the hope that it would help get him to show up to the facility and not alienate him)

• Demanded a release from the Raiders

• Was released

• "GRANDMA I’M FREEEEEE! FLY LIKE A FREEEEE!"

• Made a lot of crazy tweets saying stuff like 'Devil is a lie', a proverb about burning down a village... he made a lot of crazy tweets around this time is the point here

• Liked a tweet about Mayock getting raped in the ass

• Signed with the Patriots

• Moved in with Tom Brady

• The sexual assault allegations came out (the one where he's getting sued)

• The sexual harassment allegations came out (the one where he's not getting sued)

• Threatened the woman not suing him in a group text that included his lawyer and had a picture of her kids in the text

• Got released by the Patriots after one week

• Went off on a tweet storm and said a lot of crazy **** about a lot of people, and was supportive of people sending threats to the writer of the article detailing the sexual harassment allegations

• Said he was done with the NFL

• Went back to college via online classes

• Tried to outsource his homework to Twitter

• Wants to come back to the NFL

• Filed several grievances to try and get more than $40 million from the Raider's and Patriots

• Was ordered to show up for a deposition regarding trashing the condo

• Was accused of "reprehensible behavior" during the deposition (which is it's own insane thread, btw), which included, but was not limited too:

"Arrived nearly 30 minutes late to the deposition."

“[C]hanted, over and over, as if a mantra, a narrative of his own warped concept of the proceeding”.

“Acting as if he was above the rule of law, [Brown] proceeded to make a mockery of the deposition process. [Brown’s] antics were so unreasonable that barely twenty [20] minutes into the deposition, his counsel asked for a break [so] he could speak with [Brown] about his demeanor.

“After approximately [20-30](tel:2030) minutes, [Brown] required another break. When the deposition resumed [Brown] increased his level of obstructive behavior. At one point, [Brown] refused to answer any questions, instead saying “next question” no less than 10 times.”“Soon thereafter, [Brown] started announcing a countdown, starting at ‘five (5) minutes,’ and counting down the minutes thereafter. Before noon [Brown] left the conference room.”

• Said that the Patriots have to pay him anyway, so they might as well let him play

• Tweeted a couple of bizarre tweets about the Raiders using him for HBO ratings and the Patriots trying to steal his stuff and kept using this weird chicken based metaphor

• Tried out for the Saints and brought an entourage and film crew to shoot a music video with him when specifically told not to do that

• Called out Robert Kraft for his rub and tug massage session in Florida

• Starting training for a boxing match with Logan Paul

• Tweeted "No more white woman [2020](tel:2020)"

• The attorney representing him in the suit involving the condo quit

• Used a bunch of slurs and profane language towards cops in an Instagram video he posted

• A police youth football league cut ties with him and returned a donation after the release of the video saying there was a "irreparable rift" between the department and AB

• Threw a bag of gummy candy dicks at the cops in a video he posted

• Got dropped by his agent

• Was involved in a disputed with movers at his home where he allegedly threw rocks at the movers and moving vans. He is currently being investigated for battery by the police.

• His trainer was arrested and he is still a suspect in the battery case.

• Warrant issued for the arrest of AB.

• AB turns himself in to Broward Country Jail wearing this suit

• Rumors spread about AB signing with Tampa or Seattle

• AB announces his retirement (for what I believe is the third time, it's hard to find a good record of the rest of them)

• Two days later AB wants to play again and is asking for the league to wrap up it's investigation

• Joins TB12 in Tampa bay

I believe this list was compiled by u/foryewhoartliterate
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Shouldn’t be allowed back in the league.
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24-10-2020, 10:43   #5279
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The talent is too much to resist, guys who are that good will always get another chance whether they deserve it or not.

That said, Arians was quite firm back in March about not wanting him in the locker room. The theory is that it’s TB pushing to go get him. He will be on a short leash either way.

If I had to guess I can’t see him getting to week 17, something bad will happen and he’ll be cut. Picked him up in fantasy a week or so ago anyway just in case!
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24-10-2020, 10:46   #5280
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Jesus I’d forgotten about some of those things and I’d not been followed how his court appearances were going but it sounds like they went much like you’d expect. When Vontaze Burfict is the voice of reason maybe it’s them it’s you.

I’d love to know what the league and the Buccaneers think has changed that they think this time around will be in any way different to the list of stuff that he’s done already. I’m always willing to give someone a second chance but at some point you need to cut your loses. And ffs can someone close to him get him help that he clearly needs ?
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