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Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

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    #8222
    [Deleted User]
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    I don't believe they have banned travel now either.


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    #8223
    scouserstation
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    omg thats so scary

    You have no idea how easy it is to lose control of a situation like this and we dont really have the numbers in this country


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    #8224
    theguzman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    What has conscience got to do with it?
    If you travel you have no conscience?

    Nobody is saying strict measures are needed but blanket bans which will likely stay in place for many, many months, possibly years coupled with the attempt to publicly shame people for traveling even though they have adhered to the guidelines of a European travel system is plain wrong- as is the bolloxology that is the 5k travel limit.

    Income tax was a temporary measure to fund World War 1, the USC was initially the Income Levy, this too was supposed to be temporary back in 2009.


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    #8225
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    lets call out people from Brazil for some reason


    also you do realise that people are entitled to discuss the measures and be annoyed about them while at the same time abiding by them.


    i think a person has less of a conscience when they cant seem to see things from another persons perspective

    Brazil is being highlighted due to the two variation strains.
    South Africa could be mentioned as could the UK except the UK variant is here now, which is why we can’t open up anytime soon.


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    #8226
    scouserstation
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    How long can PUP be maintained? If that's gets eroded civil rest and compliance will crumble too.

    There isnt an endless pot of finances, I think this fact is lost on a lot people aswell, where do people see this going? Can we really keep running our country on empty indefinitely? We all know the answers to these questions but some chose to ignore the obvious


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    #8227
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I don't believe they have banned travel now either.

    nope, they haven't. that would be taking the piss altogether :pac:


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    #8228
    theguzman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    dartboardio wrote: »
    nope, they haven't. that would be taking the piss altogether :pac:

    Not banned, but they have effectively criminalized it due to mounting a ring of steel around Dublin airport and fining lads €500. You can still fly into Dublin from Kerry or Donegal as a workaround.


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    #8229
    Dr. Em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭Dr. Em


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    me - i am not going anywhere - i have been in my house for a year and will continue to do so.


    i like other posters on here just dont like the way some people are shaming people because they want to talk about things or that primetime films people on a flight and we have no real context about who what why. But lets mark them all with the Letter A and publically shame them. That is not OK.

    and what we are talking about is all aspirational for god sakes. we cant go anywhere. but the Dream Police are out in full force tonight. riled up by the media.

    No intention here of stamping on anyone's dreams. This is a travel forum, and I was speaking with the bitter voice of experience. I had to travel for an essential reason this year. It was a nightmare of cancelled flights, changing restrictions, 5 private PCR tests, multiple forms, etc., and the Irish restrictions weren't even the problem. In no way would it be worth it for a holiday. I'll be dreaming of a staycation, at best, maybe even for next year.


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    #8230
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    No intention here of stamping on anyone's dreams. This is a travel forum, and I was speaking with the bitter voice of experience. I had to travel for an essential reason this year. It was a nightmare of cancelled flights, changing restrictions, 5 private PCR tests, multiple forms, etc., and the Irish restrictions weren't even the problem. In no way would it be worth it for a holiday. I'll be dreaming of a staycation, at best, maybe even for next year.

    I did think about that, if I go it might not be enjoyable


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    #8231
    TobyHolmes
    Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭TobyHolmes


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    No intention here of stamping on anyone's dreams. This is a travel forum, and I was speaking with the bitter voice of experience. I had to travel for an essential reason this year. It was a nightmare of cancelled flights, changing restrictions, 5 private PCR tests, multiple forms, etc., and the Irish restrictions weren't even the problem. In no way would it be worth it for a holiday. I'll be dreaming of a staycation, at best, maybe even for next year.


    nightmare


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    #8232
    rorrissey
    Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭rorrissey


    I'm in a long distance relationship and my boyfriend's brother is getting married in June, in the states. My hopes were to go over and spend the whole summer there but if the US travel ban continues I suppose I won't be seeing him or his family (who are like a family to me) for a really long time.

    We've been together for almost 5 years now but at this stage the pandemic is really taking its toll on the relationship because of the travel restrictions.


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    #8233
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,905 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    No intention here of stamping on anyone's dreams. This is a travel forum, and I was speaking with the bitter voice of experience. I had to travel for an essential reason this year. It was a nightmare of cancelled flights, changing restrictions, 5 private PCR tests, multiple forms, etc., and the Irish restrictions weren't even the problem. In no way would it be worth it for a holiday. I'll be dreaming of a staycation, at best, maybe even for next year.

    Now we all know that our country is a beautiful place to visit, look at the numbers of Yanks and other EU visitors pre Covid.

    But seriously, we might cope with a staycation AGAIN, but the effin weather is so unpredictable.

    And added to that, unless hotels offer decent packages along with places like Center Parcs it ain't going to be economical. But going abroad seems to be off the agenda now so what do people do for a change of wallpaper lol.

    The back garden is looking inviting, well it will be when the plants grow and there are lots of bees about. Even the thoughts of travelling somewhere where it's crowded with holiday makers here, gives me the heebie jeebies.

    I was in Wexford last year, none of us could relax, the 9euro pubs were open and indoors was allowed. They were packed. I dunno, maybe I am just wary, but I didn't feel one bit comfortable, and no ventilation either. Hot and crowded.

    The lack of outdoor opportunities for having a drink and grub is sadly lacking in this country. I know it is weather related, but come on.... sooner or later that will have to be the norm.

    You just have to look at the great beer gardens in England to see what I am talking about. Not many like that here, and they have a similar climate. Time to forward plan as this might go on for a longer time than we think.


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    #8234
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Now we all know that our country is a beautiful place to visit, look at the numbers of Yanks and other EU visitors pre Covid.

    But seriously, we might cope with a staycation AGAIN, but the effin weather is so unpredictable.

    And added to that, unless hotels offer decent packages along with places like Center Parcs it ain't going to be economical. But going abroad seems to be off the agenda now so what do people do for a change of wallpaper lol.

    The back garden is looking inviting, well it will be when the plants grow and there are lots of bees about. Even the thoughts of travelling somewhere where it's crowded with holiday makers here, gives me the heebie jeebies.

    I was in Wexford last year, none of us could relax, the 9euro pubs were open and indoors was allowed. They were packed. I dunno, maybe I am just wary, but I didn't feel one bit comfortable, and no ventilation either. Hot and crowded.

    The lack of outdoor opportunities for having a drink and grub is sadly lacking in this country. I know it is weather related, but come on.... sooner or later that will have to be the norm.

    You just have to look at the great beer gardens in England to see what I am talking about. Not many like that here, and they have a similar climate. Time to forward plan as this might go on for a longer time than we think.

    I went away to Spain for 8 weeks in July with my boyfriend, and despite spain being a 'high risk' area, we still knew no one that had the virus, and didnt contract the virus ourselves, after being out and about everyday, sharing the pool with several others, out for drinks/food in busy restaurants...


    we then returned home, and went to Poland for 7 weeks (we work remotely) tests on each side etc to ensure we didn't have the virus.


    starting to think we are bloody immune at this stage, or else something isn't right. the fear of god has been put into people about travelling abroad in 2020, or even 2021.

    The reality is, it's probably safer to travel elsewhere, where people take restrictions more serious (ie, wearing masks EVERYWHERE apart from sitting and eating/drinking at your table or laying on a sunbed by the pool and a fine if you don't)

    when here we are in Ireland, and wearing masks on the street isn't even mandatory yet, after more or less a year of covid-19, and we wonder why we keep going in and out of rolling lockdowns.. Call me selfish, or ignorant, but something isn't right....I will be travelling to stay away for another few months next week, because it's kind of getting beyond a joke at this stage. One minute it's 'lets live with covid' then its 'once we've the vaccine everyone will be fine' now it's 'lock down the entire country and fine people for leaving on the flights that we are still letting fly'


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    #8235
    nickkinneg
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭nickkinneg


    England is going the same route, turning people away from the airport, finding them 500 euro and forcing them to turn around. Reason for travel will be checked by the carriers prior to departure and apparently a mandatory form will have to be filled out before hand stating reason for travel. Don’t think fake work jaunts will work if people were using that trick beforehand.


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    #8236
    RobitTV
    Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Except the *potential* 500 euro fine, that's only if you get caught without a good reason. I haven't heard any of the rest of that stuff mentioned above before. Not a single piece of it to be honest. Nothing about any of that happening in Ireland.

    Nothing on RTE, Irish Times etc...


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    #8237
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Those of us with a conscience see it completely as a temporary measure until vaccinations cover us. A holding measure if you like.

    I saw this documentary once about this small republic who were at risk of an invasion by a more powerful collaboration of trade hungry governments. The republic is manipulated in to temporarily elect a senator as a chancellor to streamline power to best handle the crisis. People agree because it’s only temporary.

    Turns out the chancellor refused to relinquish power because there was always one more thing to do. They go from being a republic to being an empire

    People get suspicious when he wears a dark cape all the time and shoots electricity out of his fingers

    He’s eventually killed a man in a robot suit after a laser sword battle

    His legacy lived on for decades

    Despite the abuse of power, war and strafe and deaths of innocent people, he never implemented a travel ban


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    #8238
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    nickkinneg wrote: »
    England is going the same route, turning people away from the airport, finding them 500 euro and forcing them to turn around. Reason for travel will be checked by the carriers prior to departure and apparently a mandatory form will have to be filled out before hand stating reason for travel. Don’t think fake work jaunts will work if people were using that trick beforehand.

    England have done that in previous lockdowns too afaik


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    #8239
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,119 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    TobyHolmes wrote: »
    haha really! prob because some of your friends just hung out with Irish people, worked for irish people, went to Irish pubs, ate at Irish restaurants LOL


    I have lived abroad in various countries for many years and they are not just like Ireland


    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:




    Jesus Christ. Given the context of the thread, and what I was replying to, could you not figure out that the comparison I was talking about was in relation to coronavirus.


    People are working from home and there is virtually no socialising.



    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #8240
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,119 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Well Trump, if there was no camera crew up there to pounce on people you wouldn't know would you?




    Well you see, that's actually of the job of the media. They tell the public things that are happening. If they didn't bother reporting anything then there are lots more things that you probably wouldn't know.


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    #8241
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    scouserstation wrote: »
    If you think these measure are gonna be temporary then I think you are in for a bit of a rude awakening, the narrative is changing by the day, it was get the vaccine and get back to normal just a few days ago, to now talking about cancelling summer travel already, so thats the next 6-8 months written off, that nearly takes us towards the end of 2021 and you can bet there will be another reason why we cant return to "normal" by then

    Going off the deep end with that. There was no narrative about getting the vaccine and get back to normal; that was a Ryanair publicity stunt. Cancelling summer travel is simply a reality reflection that enough people won't be vaccinated by the summer to allow the normal.

    I doubt you would actually put your money on a bet that there will be another reason towards the end of 2021. Why? if people aren't clogging up hospitals and ICU beds, then what's the rationale? It's obvious the government want to open the economy when possible. so what will be the justification for having "another reason" other than just being a moan.


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    #8242
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Those of us with a conscience see it completely as a temporary measure until vaccinations cover us. A holding measure if you like.

    It has to be done, there are far too many Brazilians coming here on Portuguese passports for example. Test everyone, quarantine those who refuse a test or both.

    This is a serious situation Captain.

    Didn't you hear Leo? The vaccines will never cover us.


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    #8243
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    I doubt you would actually put your money on a bet that there will be another reason towards the end of 2021. Why? if people aren't clogging up hospitals and ICU beds, then what's the rationale?

    Newsflash: people 85 years old will still be dying, "covid related", even with a vaccine.


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    #8244
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,119 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Del Griffith wrote: »
    Didn't you hear Leo? The vaccines will never cover us.




    You being vaccinated might not be enough for you to travel somewhere else. It is not clear how likely you are to be able to still carry and spread the virus after vaccination.


    So if you get the vaccine (and it works for you) it means that you won't get any major side effects if you encounter the virus. So you are safe, but the people around you who aren't vaccinated might not be safe from you.



    The country that you are going to still might not want you to come. And until everyone here is also vaccinated, you might still face restrictions here.


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    #8245
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users Posts: 31,819 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Is everyone who was planning to go to Dubai still going? You now need a negative PCR result before arriving and you'll have another test on arrival. 75 euro a night minimum in quarantine if you test positive.


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    #8246
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users Posts: 31,819 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Friend of mine was in Dubai last weekend, got a negative test for the return flight, didn’t feel well on the flight and went into company imposed isolation upon return, tested positive the next day. Mild conditions so far. (not in ireland)

    Dubai is crawling with the virus. Hence restrictions coming I again. Teachers up there saying schools close to going to online learning again and match Abu Dhabi.


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    #8247
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    You being vaccinated might not be enough for you to travel somewhere else. It is not clear how likely you are to be able to still carry and spread the virus after vaccination.


    So if you get the vaccine (and it works for you) it means that you won't get any major side effects if you encounter the virus. So you are safe, but the people around you who aren't vaccinated might not be safe from you.



    The country that you are going to still might not want you to come. And until everyone here is also vaccinated, you might still face restrictions here.

    That's right and may explain it in part but to be clear what I'm referring to:

    Leo Varadkar and Donnelly have stated that even if everyone is vaccinated, they still won't assume herd immunity as new variants could still change things.

    Ie: restrictions going nowhere, vaccine or not.

    There's no real exit plan, the plan seems to be restrictions on/off, forever.


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    #8248
    Acer33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭Acer33


    Hi all

    I very seldom travel and iv been putting off going away somewhere (i honestly dont know where) fro a while now. I had a few places in mind but felt in no rush. The recent spate of events however has spurred me to consider movement. I get the feeling that i dont travel now my opportunity to see these places that i have never visited will be taken away forever. This is because i do not intend on taking any vaccine as it against my religious beliefs. Furthermore i consider it ill advised as far as health and physiology is concerned.

    I am opposed to taking any manner of synthetic chemical and do not intend on doing so now. In any case, i would greatly appreciate if people could give me a summery as to the restrictions currently in place and how best to travel if still possible. I do not listen to the news much these days as it has degenerated into gutter standard fear mongering and propaganda (RTE is now akin to SKY and Fox News).

    Any information would be appreciated, thank you


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    #8249
    septictank
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭septictank


    Zzzzzzzz.



    View first post!!!


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    #8250
    Acer33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭Acer33


    septictank wrote: »
    Zzzzzzzz.



    View first post!!!

    The first post just asks if a person will travel ?

    Well i dont know. Thats what im here to ask about. I hadnt intended on anything immediate

    However this ongoing barrage of restrictions has me thinking wel be living some kind of fascist dystopia before long, so im considering it before our rights are completely taken away


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    #8251
    [Deleted User]
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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Is everyone who was planning to go to Dubai still going? You now need a negative PCR result before arriving and you'll have another test on arrival. 75 euro a night minimum in quarantine if you test positive.

    The whole country was clearly asked not to travel yesterday.


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