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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #4862
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    God, ye must have very high standards. Like I said, he never got meal. She's a handy cow maybe 575kg. I'm sure he could get better prices from cont type cows with less milk, but he'd have to feed more meal to make up the diff in weight. End of day it's about profit not vanity.

    50 euro of meal turns a calf inside out, that's probably one of his best too, there not all doing that


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    #4863
    RD10
    Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭RD10


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    This bull weighed 390kg yesterday at the mart. He never got a bit of meal, straight off the cow. It's some weight for a Feb calf. Mother is a black whitehead.

    Some weight alright. Did you go with a few?


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    #4864
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    RD10 wrote: »
    Some weight alright. Did you go with a few?

    Ah, he's a young relative of mine starting out, so I'm delighted for him. ;)

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4865
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    No offence, but she's a sh!t cow if her calf is only worth 890 let alone a ch bull calf

    But if that calf was golden yellow in colour the calf could of made €1200+
    Sadly colour is a major factor


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    #4866
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Ah, he's a young relative of mine starting out, so I'm delighted for him. ;)

    A LM or SI heifer off that cow will set him up well


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    #4867
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    But if that calf was golden yellow in colour the calf could of made €1200+
    Sadly colour is a major factor

    Ya but that's the thin g out of black cows, colour is ****e. If my aunt had balls she'd b my uncle comes to mind


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    #4868
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Week old Excel (LM4027) calf. Great width to him. Seems quiet too.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4869
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Week old Excel (LM4027) calf. Great width to him. Seems quiet too.
    Good bone for a limo too


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    #4870
    Anto_Meath
    Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    LM,4027 are nice calves, I have two of them, done ok over the summer and quiet to work with.. best of luck with him.


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    #4871
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Anyone any mbp cows? How are they for milk?


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    #4872
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Anyone any mbp cows? How are they for milk?

    Had two here a few years ago, they were very poor for milk even tho they were off milky cows.They weren’t kept long.


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    #4873
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    RD10 wrote: »
    Some weight alright. Did you go with a few?
    Just saw this now. No just brought for him. He had other bucket fed calves too.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4874
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Anyone any mbp cows? How are they for milk?

    Kept one here a few years ago.....never again....the cat would have more milk.


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    #4875
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭893bet


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    €890 I think. Colour went against him. He was greyish.

    Just about its price. Have softened a little in the last 3 weeks.

    Sold three weanling yesterday. Two Zags and something else.

    410 made 960
    395 made 920
    390 made 930.

    Very surprised with the weights. Weight them 8 weeks ago (July 20) and they 312, 305 and 302. That’s a lot of weight to gain in 56 days. They had been on meal upto the 15 August or so. Grass was only middling the last month also so was happy with weights. A little disappointed with prices.


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    #4876
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭893bet


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    No offence, but she's a sh!t cow if her calf is only worth 890 let alone a ch bull calf

    It’s a 7 month old bull......who never had a shake of meal. If all our cows could get calves to that weight with no meal....

    And saying “no offence” is not really excuses of being an asshole, no offence.


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    #4877
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    893bet wrote: »
    It’s a 7 month old bull......who never had a shake of meal. If all our cows could get calves to that weight with no meal....

    And saying “no offence” is not really excuses of being an asshole, no offence.

    😂😂😂 When u see the prices little heifers are making, suckle farming is far more than having 400kgs of a calf, a blue is worth 3/kg golden charolais 2.8 and your going nearer to 2/kg for bad calfs with bad colours. Nobody will pay big bucks for bad coloured calfs, all well and good on paper getting so much gain per day, ounce of breeding is worth a tonne of feeding as they say. No offence :rolleyes:


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    #4878
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Colour is everything! ...
    And all the cute boys buying the wrong colour calves. Larry doesn't pay for colour.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4879
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Colour is everything! ...
    And all the cute boys buying the wrong colour calves. Larry doesn't pay for colour.

    I'm not selling to Larry...


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    #4880
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    893bet wrote: »
    It’s a 7 month old bull......who never had a shake of meal. If all our cows could get calves to that weight with no meal....

    And saying “no offence” is not really excuses of being an asshole, no offence.

    LOL, couldn't have said it better myself


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    #4881
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Colour is everything! ...
    And all the cute boys buying the wrong colour calves. Larry doesn't pay for colour.

    Why is colour a thing if you're just going to cut its throat?


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    #4882
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Why is colour a thing if you're just going to cut its throat?
    Wrong colour would hint at wrong breeding. A golden charolais would indicate a char from a red Lim. A mousey char, an Angus or black Lim mother.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #4883
    furandfeather
    Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭furandfeather


    Anyone ever calf down a heifer from a culard charlaois ?


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    #4884
    Amateur Farmer
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Amateur Farmer


    Who2 wrote: »
    Anyone any experience with tomschoice jet?

    Hi, just wondering if you received any feedback on Tomschoice Jet? I’m thinking of using him this Autumn and was wondering what sort of cow suits him best?

    Any help would be appreciated.


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    #4885
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Amateur Farmer wrote: »
    Hi, just wondering if you received any feedback on Tomschoice Jet? I’m thinking of using him this Autumn and was wondering what sort of cow suits him best?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Seen a Tom's choice calf make 1050 at 345kgs, out of pathaneise x limo cow., lovely wide hairy calf


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    #4886
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Anyone have Lm 4217 Knell calves? How are they as weanlings? Are heifers looking like good replacements? Any information welcome


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    #4887
    ABitofsense
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Mine are doing well. Nice & docile too. Bulls are doing about 1.35 ADG. Couple of nice shapely heifers too by him which I'll be keeping hopefully as replacements next year. He is performing way better than my ZAG calves anyway.


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    #4888
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    ABitofsense wrote: »
    Mine are doing well. Nice & docile too. Bulls are doing about 1.35 ADG. Couple of nice shapely heifers too by him which I'll be keeping hopefully as replacements next year. He is performing way better than my ZAG calves anyway.

    Good to hear all that, thanks. No issue with calving them? He seems ok for calving difficulty.


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    #4889
    ABitofsense
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Yeah I had him on a number of heifers (calving at ~24months) but only 1 hard pull. Easy enough but I would only put him on biggesh heifers going forward. I've put him on 10 cows this year


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    #4890
    SuperTeeJay
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭SuperTeeJay


    SuperTeeJay wrote: »
    Has anyone ever tried or had any success using CWI 90% sexed semen on heifers?

    So I tried cwi sexed semen on three heifers.
    All are Ai'd 7 weeks now and hopefully have held.They were €40/straw plus insemination free.


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    #4891
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    SuperTeeJay wrote: »
    So I tried cwi sexed semen on three heifers.
    All are Ai'd 7 weeks now and hopefully have held.They were €40/straw plus insemination free.

    Do you inseminate 12 hours after standing heat as per non sexed?


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