Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

charolais0153

rushvalley wrote: »

2021 calves here will be a mix of
CH5932
CWI
LM4908
EBY
LSP
LM5443
LM2014

Elite ice cream
Loki
Mbp
Wbh
Bb4399
Mnz
Aa2163

Barron lad

First year using 100% AI and scanned on Friday, 13 out of 17 held to first service. Three repeats and one scanned up empty, First two repeats are passed their three week mark so very happy with the results. Vasectomised bull was a great purchase.
Bulls used were
WBH
BB2247
LOKI

Hard Knocks

Barron lad wrote: »

First year using 100% AI and scanned on Friday, 13 out of 17 held to first service. Three repeats and one scanned up empty, First two repeats are passed their three week mark so very happy with the results. Vasectomised bull was a great purchase.
Bulls used were
WBH
BB2247
LOKI

Would BB2247 be suitable for 2nd Calvers?

Barron lad

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would BB2247 be suitable for 2nd Calvers?

I was told he is, I have used him on my 3 fanciest parthenaise cows a second, third and a fifth calver so im hoping he will be ok.

Hard Knocks

Barron lad wrote: »

I was told he is, I have used him on my 3 fanciest parthenaise cows a second, third and a fifth calver so im hoping he will be ok.

Great cross
Best of luck

50HX

Need to update the pot, still using a lot of old stuff

Dbz
Djr
Zch
Ahz
Nin
Pte
Mzt
Fsz
Pta

Used zag a bit last year.....wouldn't be gone on him...low butty offspring

patsy_mccabe

Nin - there's a blast from the past. I had some great cows here by him. Lost them to TB. Gutted at the time.

50HX

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Nin - there's a blast from the past. I had some great cows here by him. Lost them to TB. Gutted at the time.

Yeah have a few, nice easy calving bull, still have a few in the pot

Hard to beat fl22 as well....have one straw left

charolais0153

50HX wrote: »

Need to update the pot, still using a lot of old stuff

Dbz
Djr
Zch
Ahz
Nin
Pte
Mzt
Fsz
Pta

Used zag a bit last year.....wouldn't be gone on him...low butty offspring

Pte straws be worth a nice bit to a pedigree man.

sonnybill

Had a bought in heifer genotyped as been bred by 5 star rep Lm2238? Anyone have heifers calved out of him ? Pic attached of him

patsy_mccabe

sonnybill wrote: »

Had a bought in heifer genotyped as been bred by 5 star rep Lm2238? Anyone have heifers calved out of him ? Pic attached of him

He's On-Dit x highlander so should have loads of milk. is she shapey? I've seen pics of his calves on the internet and they look like nice shapey calves. Figures so far on ICBF suggest he lacks muscle.

Seanhorse91

sonnybill wrote: »

Had a bought in heifer genotyped as been bred by 5 star rep Lm2238? Anyone have heifers calved out of him ? Pic attached of him

This lady is out of Lm2388 and a 2nd cross Lim x fr heifer. Was tiny when born but did a good thrive after. 15 months when that photo was taken, and just ai’d.
Should make a good cow, not over shapey, and quiet as a lamb.
Sold her to an uncle so will call down next spring to see how she does

Seanhorse91

sonnybill wrote: »

Had a bought in heifer genotyped as been bred by 5 star rep Lm2238? Anyone have heifers calved out of him ? Pic attached of him

This lady is out of Lm2388 and a 2nd cross Lim x fr heifer. Was tiny when born but did a good thrive after. 15 months when that photo was taken, and just ai’d.
Should make a good cow, not over shapey, and quiet as a lamb.
Sold her to an uncle so will call down next spring to see how she does

sonnybill

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's On-Dit x highlander so should have loads of milk. is she shapey? I've seen pics of his calves on the internet and they look like nice shapey calves. Figures so far on ICBF suggest he lacks muscle.

As a lad near me said once when I asked him what his heifer was out of? “She out of the cow in the limousin section of the book! “ no pic of him in catalogue only progeny ! I got that image off of limousin society website

Mother was 1 tonne , Ch X AA with milk also, I’ll leave her on there, Will scull her when she calves

tanko

Highlander is one of the best Lim bulls that PG have ever had imo, very easy calved and bred pure tanks of cattle.
Some farmers say they could be wild but i never found them too bad that way.
Had a couple of great cows of him.
There was never a pic of him in the Ai books either, the only pic i saw of him was in a Limousin society yearbook, he was an ugly looking yoke with big horns.

Base price

tanko wrote: »

Highlander is one of the best Lim bulls that PG have ever had imo, very easy calved and bred pure tanks of cattle.
Some farmers say they could be wild but i never found them too bad that way.
Had a couple of great cows of him.
There was never a pic of him in the Ai books either, the only pic i saw of him was in a Limousin society yearbook, he was an ugly looking yoke with big horns.

This him?
http://nos-taureaux.auriva-elevage.fr/trouver-le-bon-taureau/taureau_FR1692111209

patsy_mccabe

The man himself, Highlander;

tanko

That’s him, probably harsh to call him ugly in his working clothes, was a great bull, wouldn’t mind having straws off him now.

Lady Haywire

I actually think he's a grand looking bull! Bar his front feet :pac:
Prefer a bull looking like that than one that's all style & no substance.

patsy_mccabe

Ya, the French ain't in to selling bulls on their looks. Mas Du Clo (MUC) ain't so fancy either;

http://www.evolution-int.com/en/bull/34/FR2396032213/alt

RD10

Cow ai'd this morning and decided to stay bulling all day since.
Just wondering about others opinions on this - Do ye think she could hold or would ye ai again this eve to be sure?
She's mad rising on the rest of the cows the past few hours.
I'm going to ai again anyway, Don't want her slipping another 3 weeks.
Just interested on everyone else's thoughts on what they would do.

patsy_mccabe

RD10 wrote: »

Cow ai'd this morning and decided to stay bulling all day since.
Just wondering about others opinions on this - Do ye think she could hold or would ye ai again this eve to be sure?
She's mad rising on the rest of the cows the past few hours.
I'm going to ai again anyway, Don't want her slipping another 3 weeks.
Just interested on everyone else's thoughts on what they would do.

I've a 2 year old teaser with cows. Last week neighbour rang me to say a cow was bulling. I had seen her that morning and didn't think she was on yet. Following day he rang again to say she was deffo on, as he saw bull and younger weanling bull jumping on her. I looked at her and thought she might go another day. So on day 3 I ai'd her. Following morning and she was mad bulling. This time she was jumping up on the bull herself. I AI'd her again.

So to answer your question - I don't know. The best approach is to see her standing or see her jumping herself and then wait 8 hours. problem is she could be at that stage in the middle of the night. Hard to tell sometimes.

Sugarbowl

I was told before if they were jumping after getting AI, the semen from the straw could dislodge from where it was left from AI man. Fall back out if that makes sense. Not sure if true, but would always wait here until all activity was almost over before AI’ing.

I used AI twice on a cow here this year. Say bulled her on Monday and she was going again Tuesday morning so bulled again that evening with the same straw. Got her scanned and she’s in calf so not sure which straw will have worked. Main thing she’s in calf now.

tanko

RD10 wrote: »

Cow ai'd this morning and decided to stay bulling all day since.
Just wondering about others opinions on this - Do ye think she could hold or would ye ai again this eve to be sure?
She's mad rising on the rest of the cows the past few hours.
I'm going to ai again anyway, Don't want her slipping another 3 weeks.
Just interested on everyone else's thoughts on what they would do.

Doubtful that she’ll hold to the straw this morning.
I’d do her again in the morning.
If there’s one thing I’ve learnt from Ai’ing cows it’s that later is better than early.

Lady Haywire

I always think the best answer to that is 'What would the bull do'?
He'd likely be up on her in the field so I'd AI again. Better be safe than sorry. Could be like one near here last year, AI'ed in morning & evening with two different straws & got twins with one being LM & other CH.

RD10

Sugarbowl wrote: »

I was told before if they were jumping after getting AI, the semen from the straw could dislodge from where it was left from AI man. Fall back out if that makes sense. Not sure if true, but would always wait here until all activity was almost over before AI’ing.

I used AI twice on a cow here this year. Say bulled her on Monday and she was going again Tuesday morning so bulled again that evening with the same straw. Got her scanned and she’s in calf so not sure which straw will have worked. Main thing she’s in calf now.

Yes an Ai man told me that before, said they could lose it out again if they go back out the field and start rising again.

RD10

Had left her in shed for nearly an hour after to settle, first thing she done was rise up on another cow when she went back out - saw lot of slime come out of her as she was doing it so left her til this eve and ai'd again.
If she holds I'm very interested to find out which bull she held to!

RD10

While on the topic of Ai - Noticed blood on inside of the glove used this evening, not massive amount but still fair amount that I noticed it was on all fingers of the ai glove used.
What would ye make of that?
Have noticed small amounts of blood at ai the odd time down through years but this was more notable.

tanko

RD10 wrote: »

While on the topic of Ai - Noticed blood on inside of the glove used this evening, not massive amount but still fair amount that I noticed it was on all fingers of the ai glove used.
What would ye make of that?
Have noticed small amounts of blood at ai the odd time down through years but this was more notable.

I wouldn’t be worried about it but it’s better to be gentle with them.
Does he use lubricating gel?

patsy_mccabe

First Excel (LM4027) calf born here today. A little on the big side but fine shape to her already. She was literally jumping round the place when I found her.