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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Loma vs Lopez is a done deal for April/May.
    Great fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Loma vs Lopez is a done deal for April/May.
    Great fight.

    Brilliant!

    Loma, barring a KO loss, eats Lopez!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Spike o sullivan on this saturday against munguia. Will beed a ko after the hogan decision. I'll be in mexico myself saturday...will have to find an aul taverna with it on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Can't see spike doing the business unfortunately

    Would be surprised if it goes over 5 rounds

    Hope I am wrong mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    Spikes Documentary "The Prizefighter" is on Virgin One tonight at 10pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    fitzparker wrote: »
    Spikes Documentary "The Prizefighter" is on Virgin One tonight at 10pm

    That documentry was poorly made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    That documentry was poorly made.

    We'll have to agree to differ. I thought it was very well done. Much 'rawer' and 'grittier' looking (production wise) than your average production which I'd imagine was the intention.
    I also liked the fact that you could practically substitute Spike with any other 'nearly there' pro boxer, and produce an almost identical documentary. From that point of view it was more an overview of a relatively successful boxing career, someone who hasn't quite made it to the top table (yet??) but who is a lot more than a regular journeyman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    What channel will Spike v Munguia be on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    Checked sports channels on TV Guide, doesn't look like anyone yet.

    Spike has said in a few tweets its on Dazn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    what time is Spike in the ring.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    washman3 wrote: »
    what time is Spike in the ring.?

    Around 10 est.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,554 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Any sign of him yet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Ring walk now. If Spike wins maybe his purse could help fix Packie's nose! Steve Collins in his corner too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Half way through and Spike is still there but behind. However he has had some success and got hit with a low blow in the sixth that had Munguia deducted a point.

    As he said himself to win here will require a ko


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Munguia in the 11th after the towel was thrown in. Inevitable really as Spike was not defending himself with almost no resistance. The age, height and accuracy differences were just too much particularly in the latter rounds where he gassed alarmingly.

    Respect to Spike for taking this shot and hope his purse justified this.

    Had it gone the distance it would have been a clear UD.

    At 35 just don't know where he goes from here at either weight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    That is a shock as it was meant to be a homecoming for Williams. I saw him deservedly beat Hurd in a great fight and one which Hurd sees to have had a very hard time getting over.

    Interesting division.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭ccarr


    Jason Quigley fighting later this month and Andy Lee involved with Tyson Fury. Is Andy training the two together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    ccarr wrote: »
    Jason Quigley fighting later this month and Andy Lee involved with Tyson Fury. Is Andy training the two together

    Quigley on tonight. Golden boy keeping him busy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Handy win for quigley. Not sure he learned much. Those fight nights are on golden boys Facebook page live. Next week Luke keeler fights Andrade and Kevin farmer is on the same card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Very handy win alright. Patient, accurate and painstakingly stalking his man who succumbed to a great Andy Lee like right that literally staggered him across the ring. Fair balls to the Mexican for surviving the second where he was beaten up completely.

    Good performance albeit the opposition wasnt up to much but these are confident boosters on the road back.

    While its appreciated that the only Irish journo there was Chris McNulty how objective can he be being in the ringwalk with Quigley?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Anyone giving Luke Keeler a prayer in his title shot against Andrade this week?

    I think he has very little chance....similar to Hogan v Charlo a while back..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    walshb wrote: »
    Anyone giving Luke Keelera prayer in his title shot against Andrade this week?

    I think he has very little chance....similar to Hogan v Charlo a while back..

    I'd love to see him do it, he has improved a great deal under Pete Taylor,

    i think the international title he has is his level though


  • Registered Users Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Butson


    I know we have the MTK issue but terrible he is getting so little coverage here

    Off the Ball had him on but havn't seen anything else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    I'd love to see him do it, he has improved a great deal under Pete Taylor,

    i think the international title he has is his level though

    He really has, in just over two years he's gone from a solid domestic level fighter (who scraped past Darren Cruise in an Irish title fight) to a genuine fringe World level competitor.

    The problem is, he'd probably have to have improved the same amount again, to get to legitimate World level which is where Andrade is at.

    I think Hogan is a better fighter than you give him credit for Walshb, but he has no real business at Middleweight. He was small enough at Light-Middle as it was, and trying to rely on his skill set to get him through at the higher weight is too big an ask !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Two shows on up North over the weekend.
    At the Ulster Hall there's a very strong card.
    David Oliver Joyce vs Lee Haskins
    Sean McComb vs Mauro Godoy
    Gary Cully vs Joe Fitzpatrick- Irish Lightweight title
    Lewis Crocker vs Joe Thain
    Also Steven Donnelly and Pierce O'Leary on the undercard.

    A good comeback fight for Joyce. Haskins is obviously a former World champion, but will be tiny at the weight. You'd fancy Joyce to have too much for the smaller faded Haskins, but interesting all the same.

    McComb in against a decent Argentinian, good progress fight for him and no gimme.

    Cully vs Fitzpatrick is an excellent domestic fight, between two long lanky Lightweights. Cully probably the more skilled, but Fitzpatrick will be the puncher in there.

    A nice step up for Croc aswell. Thain can't punch to save his life, but has operated in and around British title level. A win for Crocker would put him in line to challenge for British/Commonwealth titles in the very bear future.

    The other Belfast card is headlines by Eric Donovan. Unfortunately his opponent Christian Montilla (who would have been his biggest challenge to date) has pulled out so he's in against a Mexican journeyman.
    A really good undercard fight between Francy Luzoho and Stephen Webb also appears to be off.
    Disappointing for Donovan, he's said if he can't get a European title fight this year he'll call it a day and he needs good opponents over the course of the year to get that !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Yeah that devenish card isn't great at the mkment

    Will probably stream the MTK one on YouTube


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Big Ears wrote: »
    He really has, in just over two years he's gone from a solid domestic level fighter (who scraped past Darren Cruise in an Irish title fight) to a genuine fringe World level competitor.

    The problem is, he'd probably have to have improved the same amount again, to get to legitimate World level which is where Andrade is at.

    I think Hogan is a better fighter than you give him credit for Walshb, but he has no real business at Middleweight. He was small enough at Light-Middle as it was, and trying to rely on his skill set to get him through at the higher weight is too big an ask !

    I never commented on Hogan as a fighter.

    I knew he would be beaten easily v Charlo. That’s all. And he was. Had nothing to offer...


    Yes, too small as well..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Very very tough for Keeler tonight but what an opportunity for him though. To get a World title shot this early in his career could be a gateway for some decent pay days if he doesnt get humiliated.

    I saw Andrade in a fortunate stoppage over Akavov a year ago but my abiding memory is walking by him after the Carroll fight in Philly and nobody recognising him. He has the skillset but that's not the whole picture getting the bigger fights.

    In a way Luke has nothing to lose down in Miami. He is more of a middleweight than Hogan so feel that comparison is a wee bit unfair. Would love to be there as this week would be magical with the Superbowl sunday and all that energy infused with all the boxing history there. I hope he breathes all of this in and looks back with no regrets:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/behind-the-lines/2020/jan/28/luke-keeler-boxing-pro-debut-engineer-world-title-fight-miami?CMP=share_btn_tw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Luke in the ring.

    In last real fight Tevin Farmer lost his title to Joseph Diaz. The latter fully deserved it, even with a horrendous cut early on, over the latter rounds as Farmer had said he was looking beyond this fight. There will be a rematch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Andrade by TKO in the 9th in a mismatch really. Literally the first punch had Keeler down in the first and one feared that this would be a humiliation. While not hurt the left that did drop him in the second did hurt but surprisingly Luke dug in and survived round after round until the inevitable.

    The punch stats spoke volumes here with Keeler too stiff to avoid shots, But for Andrade this showing will not encourage anybody to back him. He really should have had this wrapped up early to send a message.

    Afterward he claimed that Luke is a future Champion! 1am here. Slan!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    SHOVELLER wrote: »
    Luke in the ring.

    In last real fight Tevin Farmer lost his title to Joseph Diaz. The latter fully deserved it, even with a horrendous cut early on, over the latter rounds as Farmer had said he was looking beyond this fight. There will be a rematch.

    Not surprised. Farmer is average as world champions are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    That Ulster Hall card turned out pretty well.

    I hadn't realised that Joyce actually moved down in weight. He seemed to make it okay and it's a good move for him, I don't see World titles or anything down the line, but he'll be able to impose his size and strength a lot more on Super-Bantamweights and it should take him a bit further.
    The signs seemed ominous for Haskins when he came out with his knee braces, how very despite that he boxed very well in the first couple of rounds. He wasn't as fleet footed before but his head movement made Joyce miss and he landed some very hard counter, stunning Joyce a couple of times.
    Joyce was able to impose his size and physicality over the next few rounds and the end came in the 5th after Haskins knee buckled. He bravely fought on, but a barrage on the ropes from Joyce prompted the referee to end the inevitable.
    An excellent career for Haskins who announced his retirement.

    Crocker was very impressive vs Thain.
    He's a serious puncher, but the idea of putting him in with very durable guys so he actually learns to box and not just blast no hopers out of there seems to be working very well.
    I think as soon as he has a few more 8 and 10 rounders under his belt they'll try and get him in for the British/Commonwealth. He's got the ability to contest at that level anyway.

    Cully blitzed Fitzpatrick in a round, in a sensational career best performance.
    Fitzpatrick, likely not used to facing opponents who are as rangy as him, or ad fleet footed, backed up with his chin high, got cracked and dropped hard !
    He got up, did the right thing in holding on to clear his head, but a follow up barrage had the ref jump in.
    Imo he was actually worse after a knockdown than during the barrage as he was actually slipping most of the shots Cully was throwing and seemed to have his wits about him.
    Nevertheless the knockdown was very heavy so I can see why he called it.
    Cully proving he's one to watch though !

    In the main event McComb was fantastic, and won easily. He peppered Godoy throughout and hurt him a couple of times with real solid shots.
    Godoy could have been tricky if allowed to find his way into this, but McComb's performance was extremely impressive and bodes well considering he struggled last time out in a step up.

    Carl Frampton was interviewed and said his hands seem to be healing up fine, and he'll likely be back out to fight again in May.
    A very good night for MTK, all of their guys got the job done and looked impressive, and their matchmaking was spot on.

    On the other Belfast bill, Eric Donovan managed to become the first man to stop Mexican journeyman Joseafat Reyes. It was at least some positive after the dissapointment of Cristian Montilla pulling out again.
    Donovan will have to skip past Montilla now and look for another fight a step above that again if he wants to make his dreams of winning a European title come through.
    Ideally they should get him out soon again if he hasn't got many injuries or issues from the bout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Michael Conlan supposed to be announcing his next fight today,

    supposed to be in the Hullu Theatre in MSG on paddys day, hope it is as im in NYC that week anyways

    opponent rumoured to be Hiroshige Osawa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Opponent is a KO victim of Osawa

    Belmar Preciado is Conlan’s opponent next month...

    Another absolute nobody! His record is against 23 or so opponents with a -40 loss record.

    Although Mick has fought a heap of nobodies, at least their win-loss record is positive. +110 total..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    walshb wrote: »
    Opponent is a KO victim of Osawa

    Belmar Preciado is Conlan’s opponent next month...

    Another absolute nobody! His record is against 23 or so opponents with a -40 loss record.

    Although Mick has fought a heap of nobodies, at least their win-loss record is positive. +110 total..

    His opponent looks ok on paper 20-2-1 with 12Kos.

    Look a bit closer though and he appears to be another feather fisted wonder....He has gone the full 8 rounds twice with a guy whose record is 0-28 (15 KO losses).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    With Rigondeaux now a two weight WC after last night’s snoozefest split decision win over Solis for the WBA 118 lbs title, let’s hope by later this year him and Inoue get it on!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Usyk-Chisora pushed back to May time now due to Usyk elbow injury..

    He sure is taking his time at HW!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    James Tennyson is fighting Gavin Gwynne for the vacant British Lightweight title in May.
    Good fight, Gwynne gave Joe Cordina a tough fight about 6 months ago and is a very solid fighter.
    He's extremely tall for the weight, has a good engine, varies his punches well and hits considerably harder than his record suggests.
    His downfall will probably be that he's far too willing to stand there and trade, not a wise thing to do against a murderous puncher like Tennyson.
    Tennyson by Ko after a wobbly start is my predication.

    Word is also going around the Spike O'Sullivam may have got himself a World title eliminator at 154lbs on a Canelo undercard in May.
    Can't say I was expecting that after the Munguia loss, but all the best to him and perhaps one more role of the dice in a big fight for him !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Big Ears wrote: »
    James Tennyson is fighting Gavin Gwynne for the vacant British Lightweight title in May.
    Good fight, Gwynne gave Joe Cordina a tough fight about 6 months ago and is a very solid fighter.
    He's extremely tall for the weight, has a good engine, varies his punches well and hits considerably harder than his record suggests.
    His downfall will probably be that he's far too willing to stand there and trade, not a wise thing to do against a murderous puncher like Tennyson.
    Tennyson by Ko after a wobbly start is my predication.

    Word is also going around the Spike O'Sullivam may have got himself a World title eliminator at 154lbs on a Canelo undercard in May.
    Can't say I was expecting that after the Munguia loss, but all the best to him and perhaps one more role of the dice in a big fight for him !
    FFS a mustache is a title qualifier now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    dinorebel wrote: »
    FFS a mustache is a title qualifier now?

    It's a pretty good mustache tbf !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Seriously, why don’t they just hand Spike the belt and spare him these beatings..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    A very sweet homecoming for Caleb Plant just now in Nashville. A masterclass of complete domination against a tough but simply outclassed Feigenbutz. Full arsenal on show and won every round until the ref stepped in during the 10th.

    Happy for Plant as he's had some tragedy since winning the belt.

    Interesting that all belt holders in this division are unbeaten. Benavidez next?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Plant looks the part, alright. But as Benavidez alluded to, “easy to look good against a bum..“

    All these lads from 160-168 just need to start fooking fighting each other...

    Smith, Canelo, Plant, Saunders, Golovkin, Benavidez......

    Few more I am sure...Ryder is actually rated top ten, which is sad...despite him doing well v Smith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,980 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Tbf Ryder just fought the fight of his life against Smith, and many felt he won that fight.
    So his top 10 rating after that is somewhat understandable.

    You look at Fedor Chudinov, Anvi Yildrim and David Lemiuex being in the Ring's top 10 and you start to question the amount of depth at the weight.

    Some decent fights could be made amongst the top guys though !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Big Ears wrote: »
    Tbf Ryder just fought the fight of his life against Smith, and many felt he won that fight.
    So his top 10 rating after that is somewhat understandable.

    You look at Fedor Chudinov, Anvi Yildrim and David Lemiuex being in the Ring's top 10 and you start to question the amount of depth at the weight.

    Some decent fights could be made amongst the top guys though !

    Ryder was in the fight, against a lackluster Smith, who himself, has beaten nobody...

    Ryder is at best European level, and juts about,. He's just very average...

    Chudinov and Yildrim,.....my head actually hurts...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    walshb wrote: »
    Ryder was in the fight, against a lackluster Smith, who himself, has beaten nobody...

    Ryder is at best European level, and juts about,. He's just very average...

    Chudinov and Yildrim,.....my head actually hurts...

    "Nobody" is a bit harsh on George Groves, no? He was far from elite, but had a good career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    "Nobody" is a bit harsh on George Groves, no? He was far from elite, but had a good career.

    Groves was a bit past his best days.

    Froch ruined Groves. Fight 1 took so much out of him. He was never the same again..

    So, yes, Smith has faced nobody. By nobody, I mean elite/great......I didn't think I needed to emphasize this.

    For example: I think Canelo eats Smith alive....Smith is just not that good/great. His best win is an over the hill shopworn Groves!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Canelo vs Saunders May 2nd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Canelo vs Saunders May 2nd

    Brilliant!

    I was hearing rumours, but didn’t really expect Saunders to actually fight a live opponent..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    walshb wrote: »
    Brilliant!

    I was hearing rumours, but didn’t really expect Saunders to actually fight a live opponent..

    They were reading our post from yesterday and realised they better get it on.


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