Upcoming Fights **Mod note: Keep discussion to fight night threads**

gene_tunney

Upcoming fights I'll be paying attention to:

March 30
Golovkin vs Ishida
Edwin Rodriguez vs Maderna
Bellew vs Chilemba
Rios vs Alvarado

April 6
Roman Martinez vs Magdaleno

April 13
Donaire vs Rigondeaux

April 20
Terrazas vs Mijares
Caballero vs Castellanos
Nathan Cleverly vs Krasniqi
Chisora vs Pala
Fury vs Cunningham
Trout vs Alvarez

April 27
Abregu vs Decarie
Martinez vs Murray
Khan vs Julio Diaz
Arreola vs Stiverne
Garcia vs Judah
Quillin vs Guererro
Daniel Jacobs vs Billy Lyell

April 28
Lucas Browne vs James Toney

May 4
Klitschko vs Pianeta
Mayweather vs Guerrero
Ponce de Leon vs Mares

May 11
Huck vs Olafabi


Not the best line up I've ever seen but not the worst line up either. April 13, 20, 27 and May 4 are looking excellent!

clubwelly

I don't care I'm looking forward to the next couple of weeks. Starting with the Rios Alvarado fight.Their first fight upstaged Donaire Nishioka main event.

Here's a link to their first fight
http://sosoboxing.com/boxing-video-watch-online/brandon-rios-vs-mike-alvarado/

ozzz

Yup. Really looking forward to Mayweather v Guerrero. I think Guerrero may have what it takes to trouble him. Also do people actually believe Mayweather can stay undefeated for the next 30 months as per the Showtime deal he signed to?

Haroon Khan's pro debut should be interesting. Hopefully Amir will beat Diaz to rematch with Garcia.

Now when it comes to Garcia v Judah, I honestly want Garcia to win but at the same time would like to see Zab claim victory just to hear some of Angel Garcia's "truth".

gene_tunney

clubwelly wrote: »

I don't care I'm looking forward to the next couple of weeks. Starting with the Rios Alvarado fight.Their first fight upstaged Donaire Nishioka main event.

Here's a link to their first fight
http://sosoboxing.com/boxing-video-watch-online/brandon-rios-vs-mike-alvarado/

Yeah, that was great. Brutal war. Rios was in big trouble. If he keeps fighting the way he does his career won't last long.

ozzz wrote: »

Yup. Really looking forward to Mayweather v Guerrero. I think Guerrero may have what it takes to trouble him. Also do people actually believe Mayweather can stay undefeated for the next 30 months as per the Showtime deal he signed to?

Haroon Khan's pro debut should be interesting. Hopefully Amir will beat Diaz to rematch with Garcia.

Now when it comes to Garcia v Judah, I honestly want Garcia to win but at the same time would like to see Zab claim victory just to hear some of Angel Garcia's "truth".

Garcia should beat Judah who has been finished for years and was never really top level. That said, Garcia is limited and will be beaten soon.

ozzz

Garcia 'should' but you never know, especially in a sport like boxing. Judah does pack a heavy left hand. Plus, Garcia is slow, flat- footed and tends to swing wildly at times.

Having said that, I'll still be going for Garcia just so Khan can get back in to the ring with him.

gene_tunney

ozzz wrote: »

Garcia 'should' but you never know, especially in a sport like boxing. Judah does pack a heavy left hand. Plus, Garcia is slow, flat- footed and tends to swing wildly at times.

Having said that, I'll still be going for Garcia just so Khan can get back in to the ring with him.

True. Though 5 years ago I would have given Judah a better shot. Judah has lost hand speed, footspeed, reflexes are diminished and as always he will probably fade down the stretch. Looking forward to it though.

el flaco

Some really good fights there.

One week after all this is the one I'm probably most looking forward to - Matthysse v Peterson.

gene_tunney

Harrison vs Wilder April 27

Henno30

From now until the end of November:

Saturday, Nov 9th

Nonito Donaire vs Vic Darchinyan
Mikey Garcia vs Rocky Martinez
Vanes Martirosyan vs Demetrius Andrade

Saturday, Nov 16th

Andre Ward vs Edwin Rodriguez
Tomasz Adamek vs Vyacheslav Glaskov

Saturday, Nov 23rd

Manny Pacquiao vs Brandon Rios (PPV)
Evgeny Gradovich vs Billy Dib
Carl Froch vs George Groves
Yoan Pablo Hernandez vs Alexander Alekseev


Saturday, Nov 30th

Adonis Stevenson vs Tony Bellew
Sergey Kovalev vs Ismayl Sillakh

gene_tunney

Thanks Henno. A few others I'll be watching in November and Dec:

November 16:
Tua vs Ustinov

November 23
Boytsov vs Leapai

November 30
Cleverly vs Ammann

December 3
Roy Jones vs Bobby Gunn

December 7
Barker vs Sturm
Rigondeaux vs Agbeko
Kirkland vs Tapia
Macklin vs Nelson
Judah vs Malignaggi
Alexander vs Porter
Lara vs Trout

December 14
Maidana vs Broner
Thurman vs Karass

December 7 is stacked. Boxing is dead, folks.

Henno30

Forgot one myself.

Sunday, Nov 10th

Ali Raymi (19-0, 19 KOs) vs Akram Jafwi (15-0)


Any streams or live updates would be much appreciated. Stream links by pm only.

gene_tunney

Really looking forward to seeing SOG next weekend. Will probably watch the two heavyweight fights as well even though neither are riveting prospects. Love heavyweight boxing

gene_tunney

Here are the lists amalgamated:

November 14
Prizefighter

November 16
Tua vs Ustinov
Andre Ward vs Edwin Rodriguez
Tomasz Adamek vs Vyacheslav Glaskov

November 23
Biytsov vs Leapai
Manny Pacquiao vs Brandon Rios (PPV)
Evgeny Gradovich vs Billy Dib
Carl Froch vs George Groves
Yoan Pablo Hernandez vs Alexander Alekseev


November 30
Celeverly vs Ammann
Adonis Stevenson vs Tony Bellew
Sergey Kovalev vs Ismayl Sillakh

December 3
Roy Jones vs Bobby Gunn

December 7
Barker vs Sturm
Rigondeaux vs Agbeko
Kirkland vs Tapia
Macklin vs Nelson
Judah vs Malignaggi
Alexander vs Porter
Lara vs Trout

December 14
Maidana vs Broner
Thurman vs Karass

Henno30

Thanks GT. I love it when a list comes together.

HigginsJ

Looking forward to seeing Andre Ward back in action. Tough fight to come back from a long break

Henno30

Just hope he's fully healed. 14 months is a ridiculously long time to be out of action in his position. He needs to be in the public eye.

HigginsJ

Henno30 wrote: »

Just hope he's fully healed. 14 months is a ridiculously long time to be out of action in his position. He needs to be in the public eye.

It's just over 10 months since the surgery so should be ok, but I guess we will find out.

Henno30

Ward makes weight for tomorrow night. Rodriguez two pounds over.

Talib Fiasco

Anyone watching the Ward fight? Round 3 atm. Ward starting to figure out Rodriguez. Very scrappy though.

Talib Fiasco

Rodriguez could easily get DQ'd here.

Talib Fiasco

Easy UD win for Ward. Never even close to being tested. Rodriguez didn't throw a great punch all night. Ward still looks as good as ever.

gene_tunney

SOG is comfortably the 2nd best fighter in the world today.

walshb

pac_man wrote: »

Ward is hard to watch sometimes, he's a dirty but clever fighter. I think he's a bit untouchable at the moment and that includes Golovkin.

I think he's very effective, but yes, difficult to watch at times. Bit too scrappy!

Henno30

I'm a big fan of Ward but that was one seriously ugly fight last night.

boxer.fan

The fight was ugly, but Rodriguez came to make it nothing other than a mess. Ward is very impressive. The speed, pop & timing of his combinations is top notch. Super jab as well.

gene_tunney

Did anybody notice that Ward almost single handedly won the fight with his left?

Ward is very comfortably the 2nd best boxer in the world today. There are only 3 boxers right now who have pre-eminent technical skills and ring IQ and Ward is one of them. But unlike the other two Ward is comfortable fighting in a phone booth, headbutting, elbowing, roughing it up, bullying opponents in the pocket. Ward will hurt you from outside, from mind-range and in close. Particularly at mid-range he is devastating. He is the most complete fighter in the world today.

His jab is behind only WK in boxing right now. The difference is Wlad usually has a reach advantage, whereas Ward has a reach disadvantage. That's why it's amazing that he outjabs opponents. He bends to his right and whips it in, very unorthodox and with power, using his back, not from the shoulder. He puts it on your nose, sternum and stomach. Excellent punch, so much pop and so much timing. His left hand is a very well developed weapon all round, with a leaping hook from outside and a lovely hook to the liver inside. Beautiful to watch. He can beat you leading, countering or in a brawl. Excellent fighter, has it all except one shot KO power really.

He's a real nice guy and doesn't go around making statements and calling people out so never really will be a cash cow. If he was from Mexico or something it would be different, but if you're from the US and not P4P #1 and not a brash trash talker, you won't make waves or have a huge fan base. The purists will love him though. He fights so ugly and yet it's so technical. Love watching him.

walshb

Ward for me is an ATG. As gene mentions, he is complete. He doesn't look all that pretty, but you don't win gold in the Olympics unless you can box. He can box with the best of them and slug and stink with the best of them. And he's damn slippy too.

Johner

Anyone think there is a case for him as P4P #1?

walshb

Johner wrote: »

Anyone think there is a case for him as P4P #1?

Of course. He should be number 1.

megadodge

gene_tunney wrote: »

Did anybody notice that Ward almost single handedly won the fight with his left?

Ward is very comfortably the 2nd best boxer in the world today. There are only 3 boxers right now who have pre-eminent technical skills and ring IQ and Ward is one of them. But unlike the other two Ward is comfortable fighting in a phone booth, headbutting, elbowing, roughing it up, bullying opponents in the pocket. Ward will hurt you from outside, from mind-range and in close. Particularly at mid-range he is devastating. He is the most complete fighter in the world today.

His jab is behind only WK in boxing right now. The difference is Wlad usually has a reach advantage, whereas Ward has a reach disadvantage. That's why it's amazing that he outjabs opponents. He bends to his right and whips it in, very unorthodox and with power, using his back, not from the shoulder. He puts it on your nose, sternum and stomach. Excellent punch, so much pop and so much timing. His left hand is a very well developed weapon all round, with a leaping hook from outside and a lovely hook to the liver inside. Beautiful to watch. He can beat you leading, countering or in a brawl. Excellent fighter, has it all except one shot KO power really.

He's a real nice guy and doesn't go around making statements and calling people out so never really will be a cash cow. If he was from Mexico or something it would be different, but if you're from the US and not P4P #1 and not a brash trash talker, you won't make waves or have a huge fan base. The purists will love him though. He fights so ugly and yet it's so technical. Love watching him.

A positive post from Gene!!!!

You see, it's not actually that hard to do

Henno30

Ward's best shots at boosting his name are Chavez Jr and Golovkin. It's possible that the winner of Kovalev/Stevenson will be a big name by the time that fight happens as well.

He needs to beat guys with big followings to have any chance of getting near that PPV level. I don't think Jr will be let near him to be honest, so realistically his best chance is GGG, provided GGG continues to impress next year.

Golovkin's not now nor ever likely to have the sort of following Chavez Jr has, but he's doing 1.5m on HBO after just 12 months on US television. If he continues to draw viewers at that rate, by late 2014 or early 2015 Golovkin vs Ward will be a PPV level fight.

There doesn't seem to be many other options for Ward to move to the next level in terms of his profile. He's the only American star in the neighbourhood. Unless you count B-Hop, but I don't see that happening.

gene_tunney

megadodge wrote: »

A positive post from Gene!!!!

You see, it's not actually that hard to do

I have quite a few positive things to say but they rarely need to be said. It was necessary to spread the good word about SOG

Many don't realise his level of technical skill unfortunately. Haters gonna hate!

gene_tunney

pac_man wrote: »

I think Ward gets away with murder in his fights. Far too often on Saturday night when his was missing with the jab, he'd pull his opponent head back so he couldn't counter, it's actually quite clever. I think he would outsmart Calzaghe but I just wish ref's would take a more pro-active stance on his persistent fouling.

He does foul a lot. But he has every right to keep fouling if the ref doesn't call him. Rodriguez was filthy too.

My personal favourite is when he lands the power jab, pulls you in and cracks you with the elbow, then lands another jab and away again or all clinched up. Must find a video.

supersean1999

pac_man wrote: »

I think Ward gets away with murder in his fights. Far too often on Saturday night when his was missing with the jab, he'd pull his opponent head back so he couldn't counter, it's actually quite clever. I think he would outsmart Calzaghe but I just wish ref's would take a more pro-active stance on his persistent fouling.

I think he Would out smart calzaghe too. Seen as he is retired 4 or 5 years.

supersean1999

pac_man wrote: »

I think Ward gets away with murder in his fights. Far too often on Saturday night when his was missing with the jab, he'd pull his opponent head back so he couldn't counter, it's actually quite clever. I think he would outsmart Calzaghe but I just wish ref's would take a more pro-active stance on his persistent fouling.

I think he Would out smart calzaghe too. Seen as he is retired 4 or 5 years.

osarusan

Not an upcoming fight any more, but Koki Kameda of Japan just beat Jung Oh Son tonight in Korea.

And, not sure if this is the place for it, but remember the name Kazuto Ioka. One for the future, although he's already a world champion.

gene_tunney

In addition to the abovementioned for this weekend, Anthony Dirrell is fighting Sakio Bike. That's Anthony, not Andre.

Frankie Lee

Biggest test of Stephen Ormond's career next Saturday as he fights Derry Matthews. Great card for the Malignaggi Judah fight too.

walshb

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Biggest test of Stephen Ormond's career next Saturday as he fights Derry Matthews. Great card for the Malignaggi Judah fight too.

SS will be showing Ormonde's European title bid. I can't see him lasting 12 rds.

For WBO European Lightweight title. BoxRec: bout subject to change & commission approval

Johner

Ormond already holds the WBO European title. I don't think he will be stopped, he has a great chin and is very tough. Derry Mathews is obviously a huge step up in class and its a big ask but he is beatable.

Frankie Lee

walshb wrote: »

SS will be showing Ormonde's European title bid. I can't see him lasting 12 rds.

For WBO European Lightweight title. BoxRec: bout subject to change & commission approval

On boxnation http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-matches/

It should be a good fight regardless, nearly all of Derry Matthews' fights are.

walshb

Frankie Lee wrote: »

On boxnation http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-matches/

It should be a good fight regardless, nearly all of Derry Matthews' fights are.

Thanks for that. I was almost certain that Sky were showing it. I do recall them advertising it a couple of months back. They must have lost it. I love BoxNation!

el flaco

walshb wrote: »

Thanks for that. I was almost certain that Sky were showing it. I do recall them advertising it a couple of months back. They must have lost it. I love BoxNation!

Derry Matthews is a Frank Warren fighter now, so that's probably why? Plus Boxnation showed Ormonds fight at that fancy dinner do a few weeks back.

HigginsJ

Darren Barker in Germany to defend his IBF middle weight title against Felix Sturm. Should be a very close fight. Think Barker might just sneak it.

clubwelly

Don't forget about the battle of Brooklyn Paulie Malignaggie vrs Zab Judah. Neither will rise to the top of either the 140 or 147 divisions but should be a good one

Johner

Paulie on points at 13/8 looks a decent bet.

walshb

Two complete has beens, or maybe not? Probably produce FOTY!

Henno30

Two big personalities at least. Big change in the tone of the build up compared with their last fights.

Frankie Lee

Henno30 wrote: »

Two big personalities at least. Big change in the tone of the build up compared with their last fights.

The Alexander Porter fight contains two superior boxers than main event, Alexander should win but Porter could surprise me. Lara and Trout is another brilliant contest.
All three fights could go either way and contain world class or very close to world class fighters, as long as referees or judges don't mess up it could be a rare good night for boxing.

Henno30

Any thoughts on Broner-Maidana?

Frankie Lee

Henno30 wrote: »

Any thoughts on Broner-Maidana?

Broner will be made work hard. It is a step up for him but if he wants to taken seriously at the top level in this division he needs to win well.