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    #632
    Greengrass1
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    mf240 wrote: »
    Fine cows.

    They flt cross jersey looks to be a fine big cow. Usually you see that cross the other way round. With the jersey being the sire and the holstien the dam.

    We did it backwards :D
    jersey was dam Hol was the sire and then hol again


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    #633
    whelan2
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    calved a heifer at 4 am, calf coming backwards, tough job, got him out alive with jack


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    #634
    Reggie.
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    calved a heifer at 4 am, calf coming backwards, tough job, got him out alive with jack

    While suffering from the flu.....nice one


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    #635
    whelan2
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    While suffering from the flu.....nice one
    had to get oh to help me , was weak :(


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    #636
    Reggie.
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    had to get oh to help me , was weak :(

    I can imagine


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    #637
    Nettleman
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    Calving Jack broke, handle on the ratchet, anybody else have problems with jack breaking?


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    #638
    onyerbikepat
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    Had a calf come backwards here today too. A big LGL (Charolais) bull. A 3 year old Seep Tee Jay cow and her second calf. I couldn't believe how big the and open the cow was inside, but she just couldn't push him out. He came handy enough with just the ropes.
    Cow went mad then and wouldn't let me near the calf. Managed to get a rope halter on her through the gate as she was head-butting it. The things you do.


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    #639
    Milked out
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    Nettleman wrote: »
    Calving Jack broke, handle on the ratchet, anybody else have problems with jack breaking?

    No problems breaking, the odd one of it being misplaced when you need it tho. ... was it an old one or new?


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    #640
    stanflt
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    My red heifer obliged with a gzy heifer calf


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    #641
    Greengrass1
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    stanflt wrote: »
    My red heifer obliged with a gzy heifer calf

    What % have you left now stan


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    #642
    stanflt
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    What % have you left now stan

    a shameful 16%


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    #643
    Greengrass1
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    stanflt wrote: »
    a shameful 16%

    Better than me :)


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    #644
    Nettleman
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    Milked out wrote: »
    No problems breaking, the odd one of it being misplaced when you need it tho. ... was it an old one or new?
    New, dead calf too. Pictures gone to Manufacturer who is just deciding the size of my cheque.


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    #645
    whelan2
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    Nettleman wrote: »
    Calving Jack broke, handle on the ratchet, anybody else have problems with jack breaking?
    was looking at our one this morning when using it, can you get replacement pins to go into the 2 thingys that go up and down the side iykwim


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    #646
    High bike
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    Nice hardy sim bull here today,up and sucking in 20min


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    #647
    Greengrass1
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    Into single figure here.
    Will be finished in two weeks I'd these aa keep dropping 2 wks early


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    #648
    Timmaay
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    Still got 20 to go, 14 of them May calvers ugh. Only drying the last of them off now! Having said that, the Autumn ladies here still milk utterly rubbish, they never seem to get going, even with silage, maize and plenty parlour nuts, and I got 3 of them back to about 15L/day now. I really cannot afford to ad lib cull my way to compact calving any day soon (would end up needing to replace 1/3 of the herd), I'm thinking instead this year of just leaving the bull out longer, take the hit with the May and possibly June calvers again but hopefully totally minimize carryovers, at least the May/June calver will milk well for the summer and autumn, and then recover well when back to grass in Feb until now. I would probably have to purchase more liquid quota, as we got no bonus on any surplus for Jan milk.

    Or am I totally off the radar here, should I just take the hit, cull them and buy in?


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    #649
    visatorro
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    June calvings are a disaster.I find the calves very weak and the cow doesn't milk. buying in stock is very hit and miss. even if the cows are good quality, I find it stressful on them and they can underperform.
    have eight left. busy last month. cows coming to strong heats, new Hereford bull is lame though. always something!


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    #650
    whelan2
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    85% calved, rest calving until the middle of may. Never had as many calving in february /march and i sort of over stretched myself:( dont know whether to go for the same next year or to start a week earlier. Realistically cows wont be out here day and night until the middle of april so feeding space indoors for milkers could be tight


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    #651
    Farrell
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    visatorro wrote: »
    June calvings are a disaster.I find the calves very weak and the cow doesn't milk. buying in stock is very hit and miss. even if the cows are good quality, I find it stressful on them and they can underperform.
    have eight left. busy last month. cows coming to strong heats, new Hereford bull is lame though. always something!

    Agree on June/July calves especially with sucklers as they're only coming good on the second winter.
    When I hear older ones say "it's great to have them & come into money sometime" drives me mad


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    Timmaay
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    The calves are a byproduct for me tho ha. I got these 20 April/may (and most are in may) calvers, it will not be easy at all for me to pull them back much, if I try to tighten up the calving back to say April I'll probably end up with 20 carryovers again, compounding my problem with too many autumn calving cows who milk sh1te in the early lactation. Hmmm f*ckit maybe I just need a diet feeder, go the whole hog ha. But nay this compact calving is going to take time defo.


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    #653
    whelan2
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    The calves are a byproduct for me tho ha. I got these 20 April/may (and most are in may) calvers, it will not be easy at all for me to pull them back much, if I try to tighten up the calving back to say April I'll probably end up with 20 carryovers again, compounding my problem with too many autumn calving cows who milk sh1te in the early lactation. Hmmm f*ckit maybe I just need a diet feeder, go the whole hog ha. But nay this compact calving is going to take time defo.
    how long is your autumn calving block? have 2 groups here now end of august until end of october and end og january until sometime in may


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    #654
    Reggie.
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    The calves are a byproduct for me tho ha. I got these 20 April/may (and most are in may) calvers, it will not be easy at all for me to pull them back much, if I try to tighten up the calving back to say April I'll probably end up with 20 carryovers again, compounding my problem with too many autumn calving cows who milk sh1te in the early lactation. Hmmm f*ckit maybe I just need a diet feeder, go the whole hog ha. But nay this compact calving is going to take time defo.

    Shiney metal disease Timmaay :D


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    #655
    Greengrass1
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    The calves are a byproduct for me tho ha. I got these 20 April/may (and most are in may) calvers, it will not be easy at all for me to pull them back much, if I try to tighten up the calving back to say April I'll probably end up with 20 carryovers again, compounding my problem with too many autumn calving cows who milk sh1te in the early lactation. Hmmm f*ckit maybe I just need a diet feeder, go the whole hog ha. But nay this compact calving is going to take time defo.

    I'd loose the plot if we were still hadn't a compact calving herd.


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    #656
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I'd loose the plot if we were still hadn't a compact calving herd.

    I've well lost the plot by now ha.


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    #657
    degetme
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    Last 1in for calving. Kya is the job to bring back calving dates:-)


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    #658
    Greengrass1
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    Shed is getting empty now


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    #659
    Reggie.
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Shed is getting empty now

    The end is in sight hey


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    #660
    Timmaay
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    how long is your autumn calving block? have 2 groups here now end of august until end of october and end og january until sometime in may

    Autumn block good actually, 17th sept till 1st nov. I did pull the plug very sharply and let a good 10cows or so carry over to this spring, I had 17 served already, which is too many autumn calvers for me anyways. 2 of the spring carryovers still bulling now, so they will get the chop once their litres go down.


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    #661
    C0N0R
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    The calves are a byproduct for me tho ha. I got these 20 April/may (and most are in may) calvers, it will not be easy at all for me to pull them back much, if I try to tighten up the calving back to say April I'll probably end up with 20 carryovers again, compounding my problem with too many autumn calving cows who milk sh1te in the early lactation. Hmmm f*ckit maybe I just need a diet feeder, go the whole hog ha. But nay this compact calving is going to take time defo.

    What do you do with Late calvers to try and get them to go back in calf quicker?


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