When Calving Starting

frazzledhome

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Dawned on me this morning any calf that I stomached tubed this spring were the ones that got scours
any teat fed ones have had no scours
what disenfectant are ye putting your stomach tubes in?

Stomach tubes and teat attachments washed and kept in Milton between uses. Colostrum must be kept in clean container also. Big difference between bacteria and antibodies

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Stomach tubes and teat attachments washed and kept in Milton between uses. Colostrum must be kept in clean container also. Big difference between bacteria and antibodies

Milton that's the stuff couldn't think of the name.
No colostrum left out here. Cow is either milked and calf fed or colostrum is thawed

trixi2011

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Dawned on me this morning any calf that I stomached tubed this spring were the ones that got scours
any teat fed ones have had no scours
what disenfectant are ye putting your stomach tubes in?

not just the stomach tubes that need to be clean, dump buckets and cows teats need to be spotless as well when taking colostrum. Calfs gut walls absorb anything that reaches it so if colostrum is contaminated in any way the calf will absorb bacteria as well as antibodies.

Greengrass1

trixi2011 wrote: »

not just the stomach tubes that need to be clean, dump buckets and cows teats need to be spotless as well when taking colostrum. Calfs gut walls absorb anything that reaches it so if colostrum is contaminated in any way the calf will absorb bacteria as well as antibodies.

Yep all feeders and buckets left in spent detergent each night.
It's not good enough for the tube though it seems

Mad4simmental

Are you giving them to much in one go gg?

A suckler calf will eat plenty of sh!t off the teats naturally. Ones that got the teat will stop when full they haven't that choice with the tube. Iv noticed small je calves might only take 1.5l of beastings on first feed with the teat but a good size fr might take 4l

Greengrass1

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Are you giving them to much in one go gg?

A suckler calf will eat plenty of sh!t off the teats naturally. Ones that got the teat will stop when full they haven't that choice with the tube. Iv noticed small je calves might only take 1.5l of beastings on first feed with the teat but a good size fr might take 4l

5l until about 3 wks old then up to 7l in two feeds.
Calves all taken out as soon as there licked dryish usually about an hour.
any calf that will suckl a teat ill give them as much as they can drink
anything that's tubed only gets 2.5 litre

whelan2

set of pb aa twins there this evening both up and sucking when we checked them after milking, bull and a heifer:(

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

Absolute opposite here. Just finished now, in yard since one o'clock. Pulled a horse of a bb bull calf from a cow bad milk fever. Then handled another that had been pricking around since yesterday afternoon. Could make no sense of what I felt. Knew it was a job for the consultant. Vet arrived around 3.30. Toughest c-section I've ever seen. Vet did standard cut and no way would calf come. He had to make a six inch L cut on bottom of standard cut to get calf out. Badly feformed probably schmallamberg. Got her sorted and stitched.

Milk fever case then stood but charged straight out of calving box and slipped as soon as she hit bare concrete. It was milking time by the time we got her loaded and into a paddock. Popped up straight away once she had clay underfoot. We were due one like this. Everything ran too smoothly up to now.

That's hardship Free. Suffered from problems with milk fever etc and changed dry cow feed regime. On GOOD hay for 6weeks from dryoff. Last 2weeks up to speed with maize. No more problems since TG.

Dawggone

ellewood wrote: »

U should call in for Dawg on ue way to cheer him up:-)

Whaddya mean?? I'm always in good form!

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'm taking a leaf outa Dawgs book and taking no holiday..........NOT

West Clare in July

It's been out of necessity that I couldn't take holidays the last few years. Looking like it may happen again this year...too many irons in the fire.

Timmaay

Dawggone wrote: »

It's been out of necessity that I couldn't take holidays the last few years. Looking like it may happen again this year...too many irons in the fire.

2bh holidays for me are utter hell also, ridiculously stressful week leading up to them always, but I'd go insane if I didn't have the 3 months leading up to them to look forward to etc. Different generation maybe, certainly to my dad ha.

Dawggone

Timmaay wrote: »

2bh holidays for me are utter hell also, ridiculously stressful week leading up to them always, but I'd go insane if I didn't have the 3 months leading up to them to look forward to etc. Different generation maybe, certainly to my dad ha.

Christ above but I need a holiday as much as the next man!!
But I'd rather the buzz of business...
TBH I enjoyed my days work today. Got a few day old chickens coming tomorrow and had to get chicken house heating up to speed etc...lovely work with no phone ringing because it's sunday. Grand.

frazzledhome

Jesus, its like lambing live here since 4 this afternoon.

3 calved yesterday afternoon and nothing till 4pm today. 12 calved since and one at it as I type.

The finish line draws near. Had a quiet week with 2s and 3s. This usually happens with transition from ai to bull but its all hands to the pump this week by the looks of things.

Glad we got fert and slurry done this week. Only job outside yard this week is letting out 2 grps of OAD calves tomorrow.

Need to apply for Derrogation this week also

Reggie.

frazzledhome wrote: »

Jesus, its like lambing live here since 4 this afternoon.

3 calved yesterday afternoon and nothing till 4pm today. 12 calved since and one at it as I type.

The finish line draws near. Had a quiet week with 2s and 3s. This usually happens with transition from ai to bull but its all hands to the pump this week by the looks of things.

Glad we got fert and slurry done this week. Only job outside yard this week is letting out 2 grps of OAD calves tomorrow.

Need to apply for Derrogation this week also

Can of beer waiting for ya in the fridge

Deepsouthwest

Timmaay wrote: »

Off skiing for the week here, only have 2 that I'd say will pop during week, bloody hope neither cause any trouble as such ha!

Enjoy Tim, where u off to? Had a bunch of friends from here just back from a trip to Ischgl in Austria, they said it was the business. Feckers sending me pictures of the fun they were having, and poor me at home green with envy!

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Jesus, its like lambing live here since 4 this afternoon.

3 calved yesterday afternoon and nothing till 4pm today. 12 calved since and one at it as I type.

The finish line draws near. Had a quiet week with 2s and 3s. This usually happens with transition from ai to bull but its all hands to the pump this week by the looks of things.

Glad we got fert and slurry done this week. Only job outside yard this week is letting out 2 grps of OAD calves tomorrow.

Need to apply for Derrogation this week also

Great to get calving out of the way fast..
No break here until August.

Blackgrass

Dawggone wrote: »

Christ above but I need a holiday as much as the next man!!
But I'd rather the buzz of business...
TBH I enjoyed my days work today. Got a few day old chickens coming tomorrow and had to get chicken house heating up to speed etc...lovely work with no phone ringing because it's sunday. Grand.

Had to get in the habit of starting office work at 5.30-6 until 9 as couldn't get stuff done as everyone wants you then. At least with laptop can work anywhere but stop working by 5.30pm, it can wait unless it's a combine or a drill.

B+B chickens? there for 60 days or so?

Take a holiday, a week away can give a little time to think

Timmaay

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Enjoy Tim, where u off to? Had a bunch of friends from here just back from a trip to Ischgl in Austria, they said it was the business. Feckers sending me pictures of the fun they were having, and poor me at home green with envy!

Tignes, conditions perfect here, I'll refrain from posting up photos ha. On a solo trip with the UCPA/action outdoors, great craic, would recommend it to anyone!

Dawggone

Blackgrass wrote: »

Had to get in the habit of starting office work at 5.30-6 until 9 as couldn't get stuff done as everyone wants you then. At least with laptop can work anywhere but stop working by 5.30pm, it can wait unless it's a combine or a drill.

B+B chickens? there for 60 days or so?

Take a holiday, a week away can give a little time to think

Likewise, I like an early start to get office work out of the way...

Yea the chickens are B&B but in for 180 days as they are future reproductors.

Absolutely must try and take hols this year but it may be difficult.

Greengrass1

Dawggone wrote: »

Likewise, I like an early start to get office work out of the way...

Yea the chickens are B&B but in for 180 days as they are future reproductors.

Absolutely must try and take hols this year but it may be difficult.

Could do a farm swap Dawggone? ?

Dawggone

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Could do a farm swap Dawggone? ?

I think that's called a busman's holiday

Anyhow wtf would you do when you came back to a herd of leggy Holsteins?

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

That's hardship Free. Suffered from problems with milk fever etc and changed dry cow feed regime. On GOOD hay for 6weeks from dryoff. Last 2weeks up to speed with maize. No more problems since TG.

I try to have dry cow diet containing all of the ingredients of milkers. Find steaming up difficult to justify as group could often be quite small. Will probably move to it as numbers rise. We've been using the same mineral for a few years but there have been too many problems with it this year.

Greengrass1

Dawggone wrote: »

I think that's called a busman's holiday

Anyhow wtf would you do when you came back to a herd of leggy Holsteins?

I'll bring a je bull with me don't worry :D

Dawggone

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'll bring a je bull with me don't worry :D

The hure would have you killed before you got here!

freedominacup

Just going to put the last 7 springers out on a bare paddock. Need the space for buffer feeding. Group of older autumn calving heifers going with the maidens plus one cull who was supposed to be in calf. Only animals indoors now are calves.

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'll bring a je bull with me don't worry :D

I'd love to see ya stick him into the overhead compartment

Miname

Reggie. wrote: »

I'd love to see ya stick him into the overhead compartment

I'd say he'd fit too.

Greengrass1

Miname wrote: »

I'd say he'd fit too.

Me or the bull ???

Timmaay

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Me or the bull ???

More chance of the bull . You are 6.2 or so ha?

stretch film

Read somewhere that the first jersey imported into NZ killed its handler on the dock just after disembarking..