Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

28-02-2021 10:46pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Christian is coming back at a time when fans aren't giving a **** about legend returns as theyve been done far too frequently.

Edges returned twice.

Goldberg 4 or 5.

I like Christian but I dont wanna see him in 2021. I can probably accept a one off tag match against Uso and Reigns. Bar that, I dont care.

GIVE ME SOMEONE NEW.

I used to be a sucker for nostalgia and old wrestlers returning but nowadays I just want to see new stars made.

happyoutscan · 01-03-2021 10:43am

Deleted User wrote: »

I used to be a sucker for nostalgia and old wrestlers returning but nowadays I just want to see new stars made.

Same as, but not anymore. Can't even think of anyone I would pop big for making a Royal Rumble appearance (Santino maybe :pac:).

B.A._Baracus · 01-03-2021 3:42pm

I think the only return that would be a big deal would be Austin coming back and there is no chance of him doing that. Says the same himself. Austin just rode off into the sunset. Never had any comeback never even hinted at a comeback.

J. Marston · 01-03-2021 3:50pm

Well, I can't wait for Roman/Rock. Think it'll be brilliant.

ThePott · 01-03-2021 5:56pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I think the only return that would be a big deal would be Austin coming back and there is no chance of him doing that. Says the same himself. Austin just rode off into the sunset. Never had any comeback never even hinted at a comeback.

There was a lot of buzz once that him and Punk were gonna have a Mania feud, there's a sort of worked WWE game promo with the two of them. Never came to pass though.

Pentecost · 01-03-2021 9:57pm

Riddle101 wrote: »

I wonder what legends would be willing to go to AEW. Big Show was a surprise so you never know.

Mick Foley will definitely go there at some point. Ron Simmons maybe, he might get more to do than just say "DAMN!" every couple of years

kksaints · 01-03-2021 10:13pm

Riddle101 wrote: »

I wonder what legends would be willing to go to AEW. Big Show was a surprise so you never know.

Judging by the number of ex WCW wrestlers AEW has had Ric Flair will surely be made an offer. Whether he'll go with his daughter in the WWE is a different matter.

PTH2009 · 01-03-2021 10:19pm

kksaints wrote: »

Judging by the number of ex WCW wrestlers AEW has had Ric Flair will surely be made an offer. Whether he'll go with his daughter in the WWE is a different matter.

Kurt Angle could show up at some point

ThePott · 01-03-2021 10:23pm

kksaints wrote: »

Judging by the number of ex WCW wrestlers AEW has had Ric Flair will surely be made an offer. Whether he'll go with his daughter in the WWE is a different matter.

At one point I'm pretty sure he was meant to reveal the belt instead of Bret Hart.

PTH2009 · 01-03-2021 10:26pm

One of the Mcmahon Grandkids could show up in AEW saying its theres now

Jesus those kids have a great opportunity in the future with what they can inherit

Agent Coulson · 01-03-2021 10:59pm

No one would want Mick Foley as he looks right now on there TV program.

He has taken is hobo look to all new levels.

Sirsok · 01-03-2021 11:22pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

No one would want Mick Foley as he looks right now on there TV program.

He has taken is hobo look to all new levels.

Was watching a YouTube video on his his TNA run and fecking hell that was rough. Coincided with my downturn in interest in TNA I think after being a huge fan for years.

A sharp drop off after a few months after January show where they went up against Raw.

J. Marston · 02-03-2021 1:05am

The Baby-faced Assassin could've been a good wrestling moniker...

https://twitter.com/unitedrewind/status/1366477455175909380

02-03-2021 1:20am

I love Mick Foley but want him nowhere near AEW because they shouldn't be looking to the past.

I think his son works for WWE now so he wouldn't want to jeopardize that anyway.

I'm not even a huge fan but the only person they should be aiming to sign from the last 10 - 15 years is CM Punk.

happyoutscan · 02-03-2021 1:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I love Mick Foley but want him nowhere near AEW because they shouldn't be looking to the past.

I think his son works for WWE now so he wouldn't want to jeopardize that anyway.

I'm not even a huge fan but the only person they should be aiming to sign from the last 10 - 15 years is CM Punk.

You would think that they've made some form of an offer at this stage?

02-03-2021 1:18pm

happyoutscan wrote: »

You would think that they've made some form of an offer at this stage?

Only thing I read a year or two back is that he felt disrespected or something because Cody just text him asking did he want to join rather than setting up a proper meeting etc. I could be getting that story wrong.

When the company was first started up, all the EVPs and Tony Khan were talking about its something they're looking at but after it awhile they just started saying that it's not going to happen.

LineOfBeauty · 02-03-2021 3:40pm

WWE wrestlers getting gotten to by Soulja Boy on Twitter is just *chef's kiss*

beakerjoe · 02-03-2021 4:21pm

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

WWE wrestlers getting gotten to by Soulja Boy on Twitter is just *chef's kiss*

Whats this? Can you elaborate.

LineOfBeauty · 02-03-2021 4:29pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Whats this? Can you elaborate.

So one of the Retribution geeks (Dijak) hops onto the Twitter and responds to a 2 day old Soulja Boy tweet calling pro wrestling fake. Because nothing, not the lack of job security, travel expenses, freedom to pursue revenue streams outside of WWE, nothing riles up WWE wrestlers more than a mid 2000's rapper calling pro wrestling fake (which it is), aside from maybe that "pyramid dollar team game" that caused all sorts of consternation. Randy Orton decides he's seen enough and he jumps into the fray, he says they're "actors who do stunts without pads 200 days a year" now, I don't mean to get myself involved in a gang/locker room war but I mean there is pads and they don't work 200 days a year. But whatever. Soulja Boy say he's real and seems confused as to who Randy Orton is, strange considering there's now 2 Ortons to contend with, I'd say Soulja Boy has picked the wrong time to mess with Randy. They trade some rap/real barbs back and forth and that puts an end to it. A certainty to go down in the history books as one of the great "gotten to" pro wrestling social media encounters.

Lithium93_ · 02-03-2021 4:30pm

It's a tweet from February 28th, I think is the cause of the issue..

https://twitter.com/souljaboy/status/1365924312985731073

beakerjoe · 02-03-2021 4:34pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

It's a tweet from February 28th, I think is the cause of the issue..

https://twitter.com/souljaboy/status/1365924312985731073

Like hes not even picking a fight with wrestlers, its an off-the-cuff comparison.

Its literally nothing.

Dijak's twitter game started well but has nosed dived. Kinda like his career.

Lithium93_ · 02-03-2021 4:38pm

It was bait pure and simple, and Dijak fell for it hook, line and sinker. Though surely as professional wrestlers repping a company, and those who've been in the business long enough that they should at least be able to spot something so clearly designed to wind up and provoke.

Agent Coulson · 02-03-2021 4:56pm

Soulja Boy vs Bow Wow to headline WM 38.

LineOfBeauty · 02-03-2021 5:01pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Soulja Boy vs Bow Wow to headline WM 38.

Well they're running out of wrestlers from that era to headline Wrestlemania with so might as well move on to rappers. Plus these guys at least have some Twitter game.

The White Wolf · 03-03-2021 4:57pm

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

So one of the Retribution geeks (Dijak) hops onto the Twitter and responds to a 2 day old Soulja Boy tweet calling pro wrestling fake. Because nothing, not the lack of job security, travel expenses, freedom to pursue revenue streams outside of WWE, nothing riles up WWE wrestlers more than a mid 2000's rapper calling pro wrestling fake (which it is), aside from maybe that "pyramid dollar team game" that caused all sorts of consternation. Randy Orton decides he's seen enough and he jumps into the fray, he says they're "actors who do stunts without pads 200 days a year" now, I don't mean to get myself involved in a gang/locker room war but I mean there is pads and they don't work 200 days a year. But whatever. Soulja Boy say he's real and seems confused as to who Randy Orton is, strange considering there's now 2 Ortons to contend with, I'd say Soulja Boy has picked the wrong time to mess with Randy. They trade some rap/real barbs back and forth and that puts an end to it. A certainty to go down in the history books as one of the great "gotten to" pro wrestling social media encounters.

Alvarez?

LineOfBeauty · 03-03-2021 7:44pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Alvarez?

The vernacular just kinda leaks into your everyday life. I think Retribution, and like word association makes the 1st thing I think of geeks.

ThePott · 04-03-2021 11:28pm

Me clicking into a wrestling thread on Boards to chat about wrestling and it's a total warzone.

Seriously, every thread seems to have become just a massive argument lately.

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2021 1:21am

I’ve decided to do a rewatch of 2003/2004 raw up into mania XX and I started with the last episode of 2003 which features a great main event between HBK and HHH but the show as a whole is poor and reminds me of why most of us hated the reign of terror. I’m on January 5th, 2004 and a few observations. I really like the raw set bar the fact the announce table is by the entrance. The bar ring side area isn’t a good look. Evolution are in full flight and on this episode the Dudley boys will face flair and big Dave for the tag titles. The coach is on commentary and is bugging me already. I think this is the start of his run on commentary. Orton is IC champ and he’s great. As I’m watching Christian and Jericho just won a tag match against the hurricane and rosey.

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2021 8:12pm

In another case of “on this day in wrestling history...” tonight is the twentieth anniversary of Paul heyman’s commentary debut on Monday night raw taking over from Jerry lawler who had quit a few days prior because his then wife the Kat had been fired and he went with her. I don’t know what others think but I personally loved the Heyman and JR combo during what was all told a poor enough invasion angle.

Omackeral · 05-03-2021 8:19pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

In another case of “on this day in wrestling history...” tonight is the twentieth anniversary of Paul heyman’s commentary debut on Monday night raw taking over from Jerry lawler who had quit a few days prior because his then wife the Kat had been fired and he went with her. I don’t know what others think but I personally loved the Heyman and JR combo during what was all told a poor enough invasion angle.

I remember “watching” that on the old scrambled Sky Sports channel back in the day. Instantly remembered the voice. Couldn’t get over it! Had to wait til the show was over to watch it cos my mate taped it for me.

Anyone else used to listen/watch like that at all?

05-03-2021 8:20pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I remember “watching” that on the old scrambled Sky Sports channel back in the day. Instantly remembered the voice. Couldn’t get over it! Had to wait til the show was over to watch it cos my mate taped it for me.

Anyone else used to listen/watch like that at all?

Yep. Raw on a Friday all the time until we eventually got Sky Sports in.

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2021 8:38pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I remember “watching” that on the old scrambled Sky Sports channel back in the day. Instantly remembered the voice. Couldn’t get over it! Had to wait til the show was over to watch it cos my mate taped it for me.

Anyone else used to listen/watch like that at all?

My father had gotten a unique multi channel box(that’s what he called it) in the early nineties so I watched lots of this stuff as it aired unscrambled. I know it was a Friday here in Ireland but it built up the excitement.

I found out that rikishi was the driver of the car by listening to cork campus radio while in east cork and victor Barry gave out the results. Young fans today don’t know how easy they have it.

Blue_Dabadee · 05-03-2021 10:08pm

I remember Sky Sports was unscrambed for New Year's Revolution (2005). The undercard was not great, but it had second best ever chamber match.

beakerjoe · 05-03-2021 10:57pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I remember “watching” that on the old scrambled Sky Sports channel back in the day. Instantly remembered the voice. Couldn’t get over it! Had to wait til the show was over to watch it cos my mate taped it for me.

Anyone else used to listen/watch like that at all?

I used to listen to the football each Sunday. Being poor rocked. Rich kids aint got those memories. I switched between the scrambled channel and the multi box cablelink channel that had a small box for Sky Sports. No sound though and switched to wanted ads occasionally.

Thankfully I used to watch Raw in my mates.

RocketRaccoon · 05-03-2021 10:59pm

I was lucky enough to have Sky growing up and it was great for the Raw on a Friday night.

The PPVs on channel 4 were awful though, they had a few every year. They started late, 1.50 rather than 1 if I remember right and the picture quality was always horrific.

beakerjoe · 05-03-2021 10:59pm

Anyone else get the scoops from SkyOnes teletext channel?

All bollox , all nostalgic

RocketRaccoon · 05-03-2021 11:00pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Anyone else get the scoops from SkyOnes teletext channel?

All bollox , all nostalgic

Yep, that's how I knew Jericho was on the way to WWF.

briany · 05-03-2021 11:06pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I was lucky enough to have Sky growing up and it was great for the Raw on a Friday night.

Friday night RAW was real appointment TV on SKY back in the day. Take any intro of RAW from the latter half of '98 and it's off the scale in terms of excitement with the screamer rockets going off, the bruising guitar riff playing, the camera roving through the electric crowd, Jim Ross calling out what was to come on the show.... Like, I don't think wrestling was ever better than that in terms of pure adrenaline and hype. And then the sound of the broken glass would hit, and it was another huge pop.

Sorry, but it'll never be that good again, for a variety of reasons, like cookie cutter wrestlers doing scripted promos to half distracted audiences.

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2021 11:22pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I was lucky enough to have Sky growing up and it was great for the Raw on a Friday night.

The PPVs on channel 4 were awful though, they had a few every year. They started late, 1.50 rather than 1 if I remember right and the picture quality was always horrific.

Yeah 1:50am and there were ads in awful places because I think the first PPV channel4 got was royal rumble 2000 and they it seems didn’t fully understand the product they were getting.

I’m curious where those of us watching in the summer of 2003 found out what Kane looked like without his mask. I found out the morning after hungover to **** in Spain in an internet place after having drank sangria till all hours with my cousins. Sangria was grand to drink but it was a bastard the morning after.

RocketRaccoon · 05-03-2021 11:29pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah 1:50am and there were ads in awful places because I think the first PPV channel4 got was royal rumble 2000 and they it seems didn’t fully understand the product they were getting.

I’m curious where those of us watching in the summer of 2003 found out what Kane looked like without his mask. I found out the morning after hungover to **** in Spain in an internet place after having drank sangria till all hours with my cousins. Sangria was grand to drink but it was a bastard the morning after.

I remember seeing the photo on the .com site before seeing the actual footage on raw.

Anyone else read rajahwwf.com religiously?

Itssoeasy · 05-03-2021 11:36pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I remember seeing the photo on the .com site before seeing the actual footage on raw.

Anyone else read rajahwwf.com religiously?

I wasn’t reading it no. They had a video on the site though which I did watch. At the time it was underwhelming but in hindsight and 18 years to think about it, given that glen jacobs obviously wasn’t disfigured as wwe had us believe Kane was and wwe isn’t and wasn’t known doing that stuff well, I’m not sure what people expected. Kane himself has said he felt he had to take the mask off because after five years he’d come to the end of what he could do with the mask on, but I think he lost something without it. I did like his matches with Shane McMahon at survivor series in 2003. They had an ambulance match that didn’t feel rubbish.

briany · 06-03-2021 12:54am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I wasn’t reading it no. They had a video on the site though which I did watch. At the time it was underwhelming but in hindsight and 18 years to think about it, given that glen jacobs obviously wasn’t disfigured as wwe had us believe Kane was and wwe isn’t and wasn’t known doing that stuff well, I’m not sure what people expected. Kane himself has said he felt he had to take the mask off because after five years he’d come to the end of what he could do with the mask on, but I think he lost something without it. I did like his matches with Shane McMahon at survivor series in 2003. They had an ambulance match that didn’t feel rubbish.

Kane definitely lost his mystique but I basically agree that the mask had to go. Over time they'd chipped away at the original concept by exposing more of his supposedly burned body and letting him speak so by 2003 he was no longer this silent monster. Taking off the mask and rebooting him as a psychopath probably saved his whole run in the company.

Itssoeasy · 06-03-2021 1:46am

briany wrote: »

Kane definitely lost his mystique but I basically agree that the mask had to go. Over time they'd chipped away at the original concept by exposing more of his supposedly burned body and letting him speak so by 2003 he was no longer this silent monster. Taking off the mask and rebooting him as a psychopath probably saved his whole run in the company.

It was the same with the undertaker when he went away and came back as the American bad ass and the big evil taker. The dead zombie undertaker had worked for nearly a decade and yes he updated it to the ministry version(I love that theme song he used btw) he needed to rest the lord of darkness version. I know many people didn’t like the ABA but the old wrestling adage of “how can I miss you if you won’t go away” comes to mind. I personally know I was excited to see taker return at wrestle mania XX in New York because that version had been gone for a few years. I mean because he changed he got 16 years more out of the deadman version.

briany · 06-03-2021 2:48pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It was the same with the undertaker when he went away and came back as the American bad ass and the big evil taker. The dead zombie undertaker had worked for nearly a decade and yes he updated it to the ministry version(I love that theme song he used btw) he needed to rest the lord of darkness version. I know many people didn’t like the ABA but the old wrestling adage of “how can I miss you if you won’t go away” comes to mind. I personally know I was excited to see taker return at wrestle mania XX in New York because that version had been gone for a few years. I mean because he changed he got 16 years more out of the deadman version.

He was only the proper dead zombie Taker for about 4 years. By 1998 he was a totally different beast and already hinting at the transition to ABA and Big Evil that would come a few years later.

RocketRaccoon · 06-03-2021 4:57pm

briany wrote: »

Kane definitely lost his mystique but I basically agree that the mask had to go. Over time they'd chipped away at the original concept by exposing more of his supposedly burned body and letting him speak so by 2003 he was no longer this silent monster. Taking off the mask and rebooting him as a psychopath probably saved his whole run in the company.

The voice box thing for Kane was particularly strange

briany · 06-03-2021 5:43pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

The voice box thing for Kane was particularly strange

IF. I. DO. NOT. WIN. THE. TITLE...

I. WILL....

SET. MYSELF. ON. FIRE....

I liked the voice box. It was really creepy.

Itssoeasy · 06-03-2021 5:50pm

briany wrote: »

IF. I. DO. NOT. WIN. THE. TITLE...

I. WILL....

SET. MYSELF. ON. FIRE....

I liked the voice box. It was really creepy.

Yeah I liked the voice box. It was different and fit the Kane character. That’s the one great thing about the network is being able to rewatch all the stuff you used to watch growing up.

RocketRaccoon · 06-03-2021 7:21pm

Sorry I meant going from the voice box to being able to speak without it.

Was that around the time xpac broke his heart by stealing Tori? (I just Googled and she is 56 now, wow)

Itssoeasy · 06-03-2021 8:14pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Sorry I meant going from the voice box to being able to speak without it.

Was that around the time xpac broke his heart by stealing Tori? (I just Googled and she is 56 now, wow)

I think he’d spoken without it before that tori and X pac storyline. Sure X PAC isn’t even fifty yet and he was in wwe at time when hulk Hogan had just finished with wwe for the first time and he had a match on the early raws against the million dollar man. I know that points to him starting very young in the business but still that’s nuts to think of the era he came into wwe at.

RocketRaccoon · 06-03-2021 8:39pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I think he’d spoken without it before that tori and X pac storyline. Sure X PAC isn’t even fifty yet and he was in wwe at time when hulk Hogan had just finished with wwe for the first time and he had a match on the early raws against the million dollar man. I know that points to him starting very young in the business but still that’s nuts to think of the era he came into wwe at.

Wasn't his first match when he beat Razor or was that just his first win?

Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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