Top Iranian Nuclear Scientist Assassinated?

end of the road · 27-11-2020 11:33pm

ElJeffe wrote: »

Well done Israel.

hardly, plenty more where he came from and israel won't be able to get them all.
iran will develop a proper defence system as it should.

Deleted User wrote: »

Isnt nuclear proliferation worse? Especially when its in the hands of a theocracy?
Nuclear weapons are already in the hands of too many crazy countries.....

Considering the catastrophic consequences of nuclear weapons shooting an 'innocent' scientist in the streets is insignificant and a welcome alternative to hundreds of thousands to millions being vaporised by their invention.

as much as i find nuclear weapons outdated and a waste of money, while israel is a threat to iran and others then i'm afraid iran needs to be able to defend itself.

Cordell wrote: »

I am quite serious, any setback to their nuclear program is a step towards a safer world.
If anything they should have been more involved, to prevent them from having a nuclear program to begin with.

a non-nuclear iran doesn't make us safer.
a nuclear iran doesn't make us less safe.
the reality is that a nucler weapon being fired in anger is highly unlikely.

Cordell · 27-11-2020 11:42pm

So what, they develop them for the craic?

end of the road · 27-11-2020 11:43pm

Pkiernan wrote: »

How far left do you have to be to think that a nuclear Iran is a good thing?

Ffs

a nuclear anywhere isn't a good thing.
nuclear weapons really are outdated and long passed their sell by date never mind how expensive they are.
however, the fact is countries have them and while they do so they don't really have any authority to tell other countries they can't have them.

end of the road · 27-11-2020 11:45pm

Cordell wrote: »

So what, they develop them for the craic?

they develop them as they believe they will deter others from invading them.

Cheerful Spring2 · 27-11-2020 11:46pm

Ardillaun wrote: »

That car doesn’t even look armour-plated? You’d wonder whom the Israelis recruited to do this. Azeris? Kurds? Netanyahu and Trump want to make things as difficult for Biden as possible on Iran. Let’s hope some harmless randomers don’t get strung up for this.

Israel has taken an enormous risk attacking and killing a prominent scientist of Iran inside the country. The IRGC will probably push for military action. The moderates will try to make the retaliation less severe to avoid an all out war in the region. End of the day supreme leader of Iran decides what action to take.

There is no doubt Trump knew this event was going to take place. Pompeo, the secretary of state had a closed meeting with Netanyahu and crown prince. Mohammed bin Salman last week in his country. Netanyahu had the head of Mossad accompany him. The likely discussed ways to curb or stop the Iran nuclear program, none of these countries want the same Iran deal.

Iran goes all in Biden will be left to deal with the war that happens. Trump gone and they very little chance of a deal with Iran if conflicts breaks out. The Iranians are in a tough position with the arch enemy Israel killing their officials openly.

El Tarangu · 27-11-2020 11:49pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I wonder if the British will call for boycotts of the country responsible? Or do they only do that when Russia is involved?

Why would they, when it doesn't suit their broader geo-political aims? I wouldn't say that Iran was calling for boycotts when Skripal or Litvinenko were killed.

I'm surprised that anyone is still prepared to work on Iran's nuclear programme, very few of them make it to retirement.

Gatling · 27-11-2020 11:50pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran may choose a severe response? .

Like accidentally sinking a model aircraft carrier by mistake before they film they themselves blowing it up.

Cordell · 27-11-2020 11:51pm

end of the road wrote: »

they develop them as they believe they will deter others from invading them.

They don't work like that, if anything others will invade to destroy them.

Stihl waters · 27-11-2020 11:51pm

Who would win in an Iran-isreal conflict, would it be Russian back Iran against an American backed Israel

Cheerful Spring2 · 27-11-2020 11:58pm

Gatling wrote: »

Like accidentally sinking a model aircraft carrier by mistake before they film they themselves blowing it up.

If it's a model not real, how is this anyway relevant? They used it for bombing practice. You were the guy claiming the Iranian ballistic missiles could not hit the US base in Iraq and got proven wrong. Intelligence showed the Iranian missiles to be highly accurate. The US had an half hour notice the missiles were coming. And yet over 100 US soldiers had shell shock and brain trauma sitting in their secured bunkers waiting for it to be over for them.

Gatling · 27-11-2020 11:58pm

Stihl waters wrote: »

Who would win in an Iran-isreal conflict, would it be Russian back Iran against an American backed Israel

Israel ,they have being building and planning for the eventualities that iran may make a move at some stage ,they have being playing with iran for years , they've been killing Iranians in their thousands in Syria uncontested ,

You will hear claims of secret Iranian armies hiding under the ground and claims they have this and that ,but unless they take Israel in a few days they Risk more than just an army

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:04am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

If it's a model not real, how is this anyway relevant

Lol same old Cs ****e

They fired missles at an near empty base damaged some tents a blackhawk and a few hummers ,
A few end up with concussion ,
And shotdown a civilian airliner killing all on board
Now all the US based have actual anti aircraft counter batteries ,

Yet Israel can fly to Iran and back , they target and attack Iranian military in Syria on a weekly basis ,and have shown that they can kill unimpeded in Iran at will.

Sinking model boats is fierce response

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:05am

Gatling wrote: »

Israel ,they have being building and planning for the eventualities that iran may make a move at some stage ,they have being playing with iran for years , they've been killing Iranians in their thousands in Syria uncontested ,

You will hear claims of secret Iranian armies hiding under the ground and claims they have this and that ,but unless they take Israel in a few days they Risk more than just an army

They're called proxies with some affiliations to Iran. There no evidence Israel wiping out thousands of Iranians in Syria. They more than likely killing Syrians than Iranians. Syria army would likely be taken arm shipments from Iran and storing them in their bases. Israel hitting consignments guarded by Syrians. The fact the have to attack so often there likely not having great success. The Israel warplanes are spotted an hour before the attack over Lebanon and that gives plenty of opportunity to move assets.

SafeSurfer · 28-11-2020 12:05am

Cordell wrote: »

An ideal honest safe world will be one without nuclear weapons. We can't have that yet, so the next best thing is a world in which only the western powers and their allies have them. One step at a time, first let's prevent the nutjobs from getting them (by any means necessary), and then, eventually, when it's safe for us to do so, let's get the whole world rid of them.

Oh yes, because the world before nuclear weapons was inherently safe and peaceful!

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:09am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They're called proxies with some affiliations to Iran. There no evidence Israel wiping out thousands of Iranians in Syria.

The funerals of Iranian military officers and soldiers in Iran say otherwise.

Planes seen an hour over lebennon but yet they didn't see the Isreali jets over Tehran .

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:15am

Gatling wrote: »

Lol same old Cs ****e

They fired missles at an near empty base damaged some tents a blackhawk and a few hummers ,
A few end up with concussion ,
And shotdown a civilian airliner killing all on board
Now all the US based have actual anti aircraft counter batteries ,

Yet Israel can fly to Iran and back , they target and attack Iranian military in Syria on a weekly basis ,and have shown that they can kill unimpeded in Iran at will.

Sinking model boats is fierce response

Iran attacked that base in Iraq because it was where the attack drone that killed Soleimani took off from and landed back there again. The Iranians hit the
aircraft hangars to wipe it out and there powerful evidence the took out the command and control building for the drone. This was their response.

Pentagon acknowledged over 100 US soldiers had brain trauma and suffered affects from the powerful blasts inside the base. Hardly just a few soldiers. Some had to be flown to Germany for special treatment to recover.

A jumpy guy in an anti aircraft battery fired that missile. Mistakes happen. Iran was expecting a US response to the attack in Iraq.

Montage of Feck · 28-11-2020 12:19am

suicide_circus wrote: »

Mullingar is the Tehran of Ireland

Is there a bobby sands burger franchise in mullingar?

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:21am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran attacked that base in Iraq because it was where .

No

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:24am

Gatling wrote: »

The funerals of Iranian military officers and soldiers in Iran say otherwise.

Planes seen an hour over lebennon but yet they didn't see the Isreali jets over Tehran .

Kuwait news publishes fake news and you fell for it. There was no F35 Jets buzzing Tehran for an hour unseen. You believed it anyhow.

There no doubt some Iranian advisors have got killed in Syria over the years, but you're saying thousands have and that's simply nonsense. Hezbollah fighting in Syria and after killing one of its members in a strike Israel apologized. Look it up. You are still convinced Israel killing thousands of Iran soldiers in Syria!

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:44am

Gatling wrote: »

No

Gatling you can see from this publically available satellite images they took out hard structured buildings inside the base.

I saw the before images and there was a building there before the attack. A very accurate missile demolished it. You can even see there aircraft, probably helicopters nearby on a strip. Iran said they attacked the control and command centre for the drone operation. It is not that hard to believe when you see the actual aftermath images.

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:53am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Kuwait news publishes fake news

Lol stick to 9/11 .

Fake news

Gatling · 28-11-2020 1:01am

Does anyone think this is an isolated hit or will be see further hits against prominent Iranians ,
Top military commander and now top nuclear scientist ,
Iran has been huffing and puffing it's going to do this and that yet Israel can hit their forces undeterred in Syria despite various threats from Russia ,
And now we have Israel and turkey supporting Azerbaijan against Armenia ,
And a very much weak and possibly dying Putin (Parkinson's and cancer ) can't be many russians lining up to fight for Syria and Iran especially knowing that you can be targeted 24/7 from Isreal and their US and other new found allies

Pkiernan · 28-11-2020 8:49am

Irans record on minority rights is appalling

Iran stockpiled 12x the nuclear material its agreement with the West allowed.

Nuclear proliferation is not a good thing.

Yet the left wing snake that is eating itself thinks its OK for Itan to build nuclear weapons.

The protestation here is just wokeflake virtue signalling.

No better than the Irish BLM folks who don't care about the poor black people slaughtered by Government forces in Africa, or Muslims in concentration camps in China. Not cool enough for 1st year Arts Students apparently .

LuasSimon · 28-11-2020 9:40am

Makes a change from Israel killing Palestinians

daheff · 28-11-2020 9:46am

Pkiernan wrote: »

How far left do you have to be to think that a nuclear Iran is a good thing?

Ffs

Or a nuclear any country?

My point is having the bomb is a major deterrence against an attack for any country by another country.

Rightly or wrongly. US/Russia/France/China/India/Pakistan/Iran/Israel/N Korea

All have bad points about their society. Why should some decide who can and cannot have nuclear technology?

Cordell · 28-11-2020 11:12am

Clearly neither USA nor Israel have no moral authority to tell Iran that they can't have nuclear weapons, but it's not about that at all.
It's like the right to have guns in the USA, it's doesn't apply to people with mental health issues, not because the state have any moral authority to tell people not to have guns, but because it's dangerous to let some of them have one.

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 11:23am

Cordell wrote: »

Clearly neither USA nor Israel have no moral authority to tell Iran that they can't have nuclear weapons, but it's not about that at all.
It's like the right to have guns in the USA, it's doesn't apply to people with mental health issues, not because the state have any moral authority to tell people not to have guns, but because it's dangerous to let some of them have one.

That's handy for you when you are the one deciding who is "mental" but you might not like it if someone else is doing the deciding and they decide that you are the mental one. You have blinkered vision and only see from the "me" perspective.

If I was an Iranian and living under constant threats and warmongering cries from a close enough neighbour in Israel and backed by their equally antagonistic US big brother then I'm sure I'd be a lot happier to have some nuclear weapons as a deterrent.

What are Iranians expected to do? Trust the US and Israel? The ones that assassinate their generals and scientists? Iran went in with boots on the ground against ISIS and did much of the hard work there. And what happened once the situation was under control? - the US assassinated a top Iranian commander.

myfreespirit · 28-11-2020 11:30am

Mr. Fakhrizadeh was named in the Guardian as a brigadier general in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps; this alone makes him a legitimate target for assassination, considering the thuggish nature of the Revolutionary Guard. Added to that fact, he was a leader of the Iranian nuclear program.
No one can seriously believe the current Iranian regime when they claim that the program is peaceful in nature.

The killing is in my opinion justified given the circumstances and the threats made by Iran to Israel.

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/mohsen-fakhrizadeh-iranian-nuclear-scientist-reportedly-shot-dead-near-tehran)

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 11:38am

myfreespirit wrote: »

Mr. Fakhrizadeh was named in the Guardian as a brigadier general in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps; this alone makes him a legitimate target for assassination, considering the thuggish nature of the Revolutionary Guard. Added to that fact, he was a leader of the Iranian nuclear program.
No one can seriously believe the current Iranian regime when they claim that the program is peaceful in nature.

The killing is in my opinion justified given the circumstances and the threats made by Iran to Israel.

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/mohsen-fakhrizadeh-iranian-nuclear-scientist-reportedly-shot-dead-near-tehran)

Well you have to hand it to the Iranians. They are a very well educated people in science and mathematics. (The ones I have met have all been very smart ... although that might be biased given that they were outside of Iran). Actually, the only female to have won the Field medal in mathematics was an Iranian lady

I wonder how many professors of nuclear physics are in the ranks of the Irish army? :pac:

And no, the killing is not justified. In a time of declared war then the opponents military are fair game.

cnocbui · 28-11-2020 11:39am

Donald Trump wrote: »

That's handy for you when you are the one deciding who is "mental" but you might not like it if someone else is doing the deciding and they decide that you are the mental one. You have blinkered vision and only see from the "me" perspective.

If I was an Iranian and living under constant threats and warmongering cries from a close enough neighbour in Israel and backed by their equally antagonistic US big brother then I'm sure I'd be a lot happier to have some nuclear weapons as a deterrent.

What are Iranians expected to do? Trust the US and Israel? The ones that assassinate their generals and scientists? Iran went in with boots on the ground against ISIS and did much of the hard work there. And what happened once the situation was under control? - the US assassinated a top Iranian commander.

Your mental model of Iran is near non-existent. I would expect such a poor appreciation for the character and nature of a country from a 12 year old who had never read a news item on world events.

Iran has been sponsoring and fomenting terrorism for decades, particularly aimed at Israel. If I mentioned Hezbollah your response would be 'bless you'.

Iran is a rogue state, and that label has been well earned.

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 11:41am

cnocbui wrote: »

Your mental model of Iran is near non-existent. I would expect such a poor appreciation for the character and nature of a country from a 12 year old who had never read a news item on world events.

Iran has been sponsoring and fomenting terrorism for decades, particularly aimed at Israel. If I mentioned Hezbollah your response would be 'bless you'.

How many Iranians do you know?

Your own ignorance is showing through to be fair.

myfreespirit · 28-11-2020 11:44am

Donald Trump wrote: »

Well you have to hand it to the Iranians. They are a very well educated people in science and mathematics. (The ones I have met have all been very smart ... although that might be biased given that they were outside of Iran). Actually, the only female to have won the Field medal in mathematics was an Iranian lady

I wonder how many professors of nuclear physics are in the ranks of the Irish army? :pac:

And no, the killing is not justified. In a time of declared war then the opponents military are fair game.

It is somewhat disingenuous to draw a comparison between the Iranian people (who, I agree with you, are well educated in general) and the murderous Iranian regime which threatens peace in the Middle East in pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability.

A stitch in time saves nine...

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 11:48am

myfreespirit wrote: »

It is somewhat disingenuous to draw a comparison between the Iranian people (who, I agree with you, are well educated in general) and the murderous Iranian regime which threatens peace in the Middle East in pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability.

A stitch in time saves nine...

A lot of the people on the ground aren't that fond of their government but sure what country's citizens are.

If they weren't being threatened with destruction all the time by external forces then there would be more of a chance of that changing.

Their top level just have another excuse today to tell their citizens why they need to stay on their current path. Foreign powers are assassinating their scientists.

Stihl waters · 28-11-2020 11:50am

If I was Iranian I'd prefer to have the threat to use nuclear rather than trust the likes of a US - Israeli alliance that would stick the knife in your back the first chance they'd get

suicide_circus · 28-11-2020 11:51am

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall -- you need me on that wall.

We use words like "honor," "code," "loyalty." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!

myfreespirit · 28-11-2020 11:53am

Donald Trump wrote: »

A lot of the people on the ground aren't that fond of their government but sure what country's citizens are.

If they weren't being threatened with destruction all the time by external forces then there would be more of a chance of that changing.

Their top level just have another excuse today to tell their citizens why they need to stay on their current path. Foreign powers are assassinating their scientists.

What country/countries are threatening Iran with destruction?
Do you have a reliable source for the claim that this is the case?
As regards threatening the destruction of nations, Iran definitely has made such threats to Israel not the other way around.

banie01 · 28-11-2020 11:59am

A dangerous game by the Israelis and Trump.

This is a concerted effort to box in Biden's foreign policy. It is calculated to make a return to the previous Iran nuclear deal an impossibility.
It is designed to provoke Iranian military retaliation, with the aim of triggering a US military intervention and fully scuttling any negotiation and detente.

It's stunts like this however that really do highlight the hypocrisy of Western governments denouncing state sponsored terrorism.
It's a tool of statecraft when it meets their aims, but it is violent chaos when it opposes them.

The Iranian response to date has been far calmer than previously and their call to the EU for political action is telling.

silverharp · 28-11-2020 12:02pm

Iran seems to be successfully neutered and economically its crumbling, may it continue until they reform, all enhanced by the thaw in relations between Israel and the Arab states. Turkey seems to be the new problem child on the block

TomTomTim · 28-11-2020 12:07pm

Pkiernan wrote: »

Irans record on minority rights is appalling

Iran stockpiled 12x the nuclear material its agreement with the West allowed.

Nuclear proliferation is not a good thing.

Yet the left wing snake that is eating itself thinks its OK for Itan to build nuclear weapons.

The protestation here is just wokeflake virtue signalling.

No better than the Irish BLM folks who don't care about the poor black people slaughtered by Government forces in Africa, or Muslims in concentration camps in China. Not cool enough for 1st year Arts Students apparently .

I honestly partly blame Hollywood movies for this childish mindset. The left are incapable of even considering the fact that both sides could be bad, there always has to be good and a bad side with them, just like a Hollywood movie.

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:10pm

Why does Iran need nukes ,the same reason north korea does it's not to protect nk from invasion they have Nukes to solely protect China from having a unified strong Korea next door ,and the possibility of them having American backed forces in a unified Korea ,
Iran is the same it keeps russian influence in the various stans ,nukes in one side and the other side with relative weak in-between .

Call the yanks acting as some morale police but when these countries get nukes and go full retard who's going to be expected to sort it out or defend other countries

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:22pm

cnocbui wrote: »

Your mental model of Iran is near non-existent. I would expect such a poor appreciation for the character and nature of a country from a 12 year old who had never read a news item on world events.

Iran has been sponsoring and fomenting terrorism for decades, particularly aimed at Israel. If I mentioned Hezbollah your response would be 'bless you'.

Iran is a rogue state, and that label has been well earned.

The last 30 years of terrorism in the west and middle east was carried out by people who believe Sunni Islam is the correct religion and all others are wrong. ISIS and Al Qeada and their proxies are known Sunni Terrorists.

Iran Shia and people from that religion haven't attacked the west for a long time. It's well known Sunni terrorist groups are backed by Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey and Pakistan there all allies of the United States.

Iran supports the resistance movements in Palestine. Israel seems to get off the hook for having an apartheid state next door to them. Economically it's Israel decides if they can eat and have electricity on. We didn't accept this kind of behavior in South Africa, but the US accepts it here in the Middle east.

Israel the aggressor in the region. Iran has never carried out any military action in Israel. Israel known to carry out terrorism on daily basis in Syria. Israel claims there this threat coming from Syria but it never seems to occur. Iran wanted a war with Israel they be at it already. Of course Israel doing it best for Americans to do the actual fighting for them by killing leaders in Iran. Iran smart they may wait this one out.

tjhook · 28-11-2020 12:24pm

I'm no fan of the Iranian leadership. But many people believe in "sauce for the goose", "an eye for an eye" and all that. I can see how Iran might now feel justified to do similar. Assassinate an important person (civilian or not) in a neighbouring country. Or in a Western state that backs a neighbouring country. It's not hard to do and now they can even argue that it's justified retaliation.

Although it may be a set-back, I doubt killing one Iranian scientist could have done serious damage to Iran's nuclear aims. I think it's more likely to open the door to tit-for-tat violence. Even if nothing happens, I wouldn't fancy being an important scientist in one of those countries now.

The big picture is that this killing has made the world more unstable, probably for little gain.

cnocbui · 28-11-2020 12:26pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

How many Iranians do you know?

Your own ignorance is showing through to be fair.

What a fatuous response. I don't have cancer but I haves well informed opinions about it. Have you ever lived in the Middle East?

joseywhales · 28-11-2020 12:33pm

silverharp wrote: »

Iran seems to be successfully neutered and economically its crumbling, may it continue until they reform, all enhanced by the thaw in relations between Israel and the Arab states. Turkey seems to be the new problem child on the block

Soon there'll be noone left, they'll have to move to a new region to terrorize and de stabilize, not that there is no iraq or syria. Add in Iran and Turkey, who will be left to interfere with? Take a crack at egypt maybe?

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:37pm

Actually the only time nukes save you from invasion come true was Ukraine , Russia give us all of your nukes and we will sign a friendship and partnership treaty and you can choose your own destiny ,
A few years later russian forces invade annex and occupy other parts of Ukraine .
Would nukes stopped it possibly , possibly not

Cheerful Spring2 · 28-11-2020 12:38pm

Gatling wrote: »

Why does Iran need nukes ,the same reason north korea does it's not to protect nk from invasion they have Nukes to solely protect China from having a unified strong Korea next door ,and the possibility of them having American backed forces in a unified Korea ,
Iran is the same it keeps russian influence in the various stans ,nukes in one side and the other side with relative weak in-between .

Call the yanks acting as some morale police but when these countries get nukes and go full retard who's going to be expected to sort it out or defend other countries

Strange question. Why does any country have nuclear weapons? Obvious answer to stop outside aggression. The bully attacks the weak countries and if Iran had the bomb Israel would likely not be so aggressive in the region.. Iran could build a bomb in months secretly if they wanted so it all nonsense this talk.

Iran bombing Israel with a nuke unlikely. They hardly want their own country turned to ash in return. Iran wants a deterrence to prevent invasion let them have the bomb.

The real fear is rogue actors groups like Isis or similar ones get their hands on a device. Isis would use a nuclear device and not give a crap about the implications and results of that action.

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 12:43pm

cnocbui wrote: »

What a fatuous response. I don't have cancer but I haves well informed opinions about it. Have you ever lived in the Middle East?

So no then. :pac:

As they say - "opinions are like ...".

ElJeffe · 28-11-2020 12:44pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Strange question. Why does any country have nuclear weapons? Obvious answer to stop outside aggression. The bully attacks the weak countries and if Iran had the bomb Israel would likely not be so aggressive in the region.. Iran could build a bomb in months secretly if they wanted so it all nonsense this talk.

Iran bombing Israel with a nuke unlikely. They hardly want their own country turned to ash in return. Iran wants a deterrence to prevent invasion let them have the bomb.

The real fear is rogue actors groups like Isis or similar ones get their hands on a device. Isis would use a nuclear device and not give a crap about the implications and results of that action.

Iran funded and set up ISIS. You don't see the issue with a state like that having the bomb? It would eventually end up in the hands of one of these headhacker groupings.

Gatling · 28-11-2020 12:46pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran bombing Israel with a nuke unlikely. They hardly want their own country turned to ash

More likely the scenario would be Irans get nukes , Israel decides Iran will be wiped out ,
It's that simple.

Would nukes stopped Russia occupying the whole of Eastern Europe late 40s - 90s no did Russia use the idea of challenge us and we wipe everyone out yes .
Did it solve anything no

Donald Trump · 28-11-2020 12:48pm

ElJeffe wrote: »

Iran funded and set up ISIS. You don't see the issue with a state like that having the bomb? It would eventually end up in the hands of one of these headhacker groupings.

You have it completely arseways.

It was the US and it's allies that paved the way for ISIS/ISIL. They were handy when they were fighting Assad in Syria!!!!

Shia and Sunni Muslims are pretty strong enemies.

Top Iranian Nuclear Scientist Assassinated?

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