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JoeyJJ · 20-09-2018 9:26am

Feck the usadas

MrStuffins · 20-09-2018 9:44am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Ok. Then ban him for the shortest period of time possible and let the man fight!

They're letting the man fight! Can't wait!!

The Nal · 20-09-2018 10:12am

I wonder what they'll do with Lesnar now. Lesnar vs Jones is the real money fight. But not if/when Lesnar gets annihilated by DC.

Danas ideal scenario - Lesnar to destroy DC and then face Jones as champ.

Paully D · 20-09-2018 11:00am

The report on Jones indicates that he was still even using cocaine after testing positive. He was checked into a month long rehab shortly afterwards. He will never, ever change.

Then gets a reduced suspension for "turning in another fighter and/or coach and/or supplier to USADA." The same bloke who used to rat out kids for smoking weed in school. Again, he will never change.

The only saving grace here is that Jon will inevitably mess up again and that truly will be the end of him. It's just a matter of time and fingers crossed it happens sooner rather than later.

Jon, USADA, the UFC, Dana - all horrible scumbags.

tommyboy26 · 20-09-2018 1:01pm

https://twitter.com/AlexTheMauler/status/1042734158517358592

interesting tweet from Gus :rolleyes:

lets fight for the belt.....

so strip the guy who has earned it so a cheater and a guy who pulled out of his last fight can fight for it

not to meantion neither of them have fought in over a year.

i would rather see dc defend against jan blac now and fight lesner next year.

fcuk jones let DC cement his status as the G.O.A.T and ride out into the sunset with a bag of money.

as much as i think jones is a sensational fighter he cant come back and fight for a belt, but then the UFC/DANA do not think logically

TacoMan · 20-09-2018 1:07pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

They're letting the man fight! Can't wait!!

Agree 100%. Let the man fight!

ricero · 20-09-2018 1:15pm

People calling the ufc a farce for allowing a known drugs cheat Brock Lesnar back to fight yet are cheering the return of Jon Jones

Paully D · 20-09-2018 1:33pm

I can’t wait for not one journalist to push the Jones issue for fear of being banned.

rob316 · 20-09-2018 2:12pm

DC to defend both belts with fights against Jones and Lesnar. Beat them, then ride off into the sunset with a **** load of cash like the goat he is.

Sprinter Sacre · 20-09-2018 6:02pm

Hope Jones batters Cormier again, it'll be good to have him back.

dulux99 · 20-09-2018 6:03pm

I know the Jones farce is a black eye for the sport but realistically it's never going to stop happening in combat sports. There's just too much money to be made (or lost) for these incidents not to keep happening. Its not exclusive to mma either, look at Canelo only last weekend, and even Anthony Joshua is fighting a drugs cheat this weekend in Povetkin. Two wrongs don't make a right but it's just the reality of combat sports tbh.

Ultimate Seduction · 20-09-2018 6:16pm

Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

dulux99 · 20-09-2018 6:18pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

I know, and I somewhat agree but how many times has Jones been caught now, 3? Fool me once and all that.

Lukker- · 20-09-2018 6:21pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

Most people were the same with Brock, but he also will have served 12 months by the time he fights again after his first offence. (the same as JJ)

It's Jones second time getting caught on the juice, and USADA guidelines say your second ban has to be double the first one at a minimum, yet he barely gets 15 months. Doesn't really make sense.

tommyboy26 · 20-09-2018 8:39pm

from a fans view i think it will be good having jones back as he makes good fights.

however as i stated earlier him been giving 15 months is an absolute disgrace. Jones is a tramp of a man who wouldnt lie straight in his bed. he just keeps lying. swore to ariel that he didnt have a coke issue and only tried it once then admits to USADA that he was doing it before and after his last fight with DC.

anyone saying he deserves a third fight with DC straight away deserves to be shot at with balls of their own sh1te

hunter164 · 20-09-2018 10:32pm

i hope Jones comes back and slaps DC around.

EagererBeaver · 20-09-2018 11:08pm

Dana has just said that Jones definitively won't be on the 230 card at MSG.

Put the house on it happening, eh.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-09-2018 12:28am

Hunt vs Saki for UFC Adelaide in the works.

JUST LET THEM BANG BRO!

Axwell · 21-09-2018 12:33am

Thats a great co-main fight and farewell for Hunt, hopefully it gets signed.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-09-2018 12:43am

**** it, give them gloves and put then in a ring. UFC K1!

Outlaw Pete · 21-09-2018 3:04am

Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1042956041204449280

Autecher · 21-09-2018 4:25am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.

Fantastic news! Although not officially announced yet, Holloway v Ortega is expected to be the main event for that card too. War Everybody!!!

cletus · 21-09-2018 6:52am

Glenn Robinson has died of a heart attack

Paully D · 21-09-2018 7:04am

cletus wrote: »

Glenn Robinson has died of a heart attack

Ah Jesus.

I really liked him on TUF on the season that Usman won.

RIP.

Paully D · 21-09-2018 7:49am

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1042956041204449280?s=21

Great fight!

ricero · 21-09-2018 8:03am

The ufc are really bossing it with the fights being put together for the latter half of this year.

Great time to be a fan.

EagererBeaver · 21-09-2018 9:14am

I wonder what odds on Montaño ever fighting in the UFC again.

Think you have to favour Shevchenko in that. Too big, too strong. JJ KOed and comfortably decisioned by Namajunas and hasn't stopped anybody in over three years.

Paully D · 21-09-2018 9:31am

Shevchenko has also beaten Joanna a few times in kickboxing I believe?

Mellor · 21-09-2018 9:49am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

JJ KOed and comfortably decisioned by Namajunas and hasn't stopped anybody in over three years.

I doubt be 115ers will ever be know for their finishes, KOs at least. JJ has the record for most SW KOs with 2. Rose has the finishes record, 4.

Agree that Shevchenko will be too much for JJ. They were two divisions apart not long ago. Much harder for a female to make up that kind of mass deficit in a short space of time.

rob316 · 21-09-2018 10:22am

These cross division fights and fighters moving up to more natural weights are really adding some bit of magic to bookings again.

The Nal · 21-09-2018 10:37am

Paully D wrote: »

Shevchenko has also beaten Joanna a few times in kickboxing I believe?

3 times. Shes one of the greatest fighters of all time. 18-3 in MMA, 58-2 in kickboxing, 2-0 in boxing. Combined thats 78-5 across all 3 disciplines! And shes only 30. :eek:

Mellor · 21-09-2018 11:58am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Alot more uproar about Jones coming back than Brock. Strange that.

Brock will have served his suspension. No different to any fighter who has popped.

Or to look at it another way.
Brock and Jones both popped at UFC200.
Jones came back, at 213, popped a second time. And is now cleared to fight from November, a few months before Brock.

AlmightyCushion · 21-09-2018 12:08pm

Mellor wrote: »

Brock will have served his suspension. No different to any fighter who has popped.

Or to look at it another way.
Brock and Jones both popped at UFC200.
Jones came back, at 213, popped a second time. And is now cleared to fight from November, a few months before Brock.

That's because Brock retired and his ban was put on hold. If Brock didn't retire he would have been eligible to fight over a year ago.

yourdeadwright · 21-09-2018 12:51pm

cliggg wrote: »

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Joanna v Shevchenko set for 231.

Fantastic news! Although not officially announced yet, Holloway v Ortega is expected to be the main event for that card too. War Everybody!!!

They need a great back up, no way in hell Holloway makes weight .

Mellor · 21-09-2018 12:54pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

That's because Brock retired and his ban was put on hold. If Brock didn't retire he would have been eligible to fight over a year ago.

I'm aware. But I don't think that's relevant in this context.
The question was why people are more put out by
Jones than Brock returning. The point is that Brock will serve his full ban (plus an 18 month "retirement"). Jones popped twice and isn't serving a full ban.

If they gave Jones 18 months at the start. I'd be ok with it. But giving him 15 after more or less 15minths is farcical.

The Nal · 21-09-2018 1:01pm

Mellor wrote: »

I'm aware. But I don't think that's relevant in this context.
The question was why people are more put out by
Jones than Brock returning. The point is that Brock will serve his full ban (plus an 18 month "retirement"). Jones popped twice and isn't serving a full ban.

If they gave Jones 18 months at the start. I'd be ok with it. But giving him 15 after more or less 15minths is farcical.

The majority of these cases are farcical too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Doping_cases_in_mixed_martial_arts

ASOT · 21-09-2018 5:34pm

Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

EagererBeaver · 21-09-2018 5:49pm

ASOT wrote: »

Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

Can't be too far away from getting cut. He's finished anyway.

ASOT · 21-09-2018 5:49pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Can't be too far away from getting cut. He's finished anyway.

Yeah a combination of TJ and USADA ended him to be fair. I'd say if he loses he's getting his p45.

dulux99 · 21-09-2018 5:51pm

ASOT wrote: »

Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

USADA isn't perfect but atleast it's weeded out the likes of that fraud.

AlmightyCushion · 21-09-2018 5:55pm

ASOT wrote: »

Barao nearly 6lbs over for his fight tomorrow. Disgrace

The top comment on reddit sums it up perfectly

In fairness, he, like everyone else, had no idea there's a fight tomorrow.

ASOT · 21-09-2018 5:56pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The top comment on reddit sums it up perfectly

Hahaha that's spot on, only reason Iv been following the event was to see if Anders missed weight. He was looking very chunky in interviews.

dulux99 · 21-09-2018 7:40pm

Does anyone feel like Helwani is not the force he used to be since going to ESPN? He's probably making much better coin but his podcast is just not the same and not as easily accessible as the old mma fighting version, and it seems like his finger isn't as on the pulse as it once was

JJayoo · 21-09-2018 8:02pm

All these reporters, Chael Luke Thomas etc, falling over themselves in awe of the brilliance of McGregor at the press conference. They should pop over to Dublin and hang outside supermacs on a Saturday night and marvel at the poetry

21-09-2018 8:10pm

This was an interesting listen - Tom Egan talking about growing up and his move into MMA, being first Irish fighter in UFC and what it meant to him. He seems sound out, and really his own person - mentions his relationship with McGregor in a really low key way, just touching on how they trained together. Very non-gossipy if you know what I mean - all about the sport and his background and what he's doing now. It's a Boston podcast.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/power-of-the-tribe-podcast/id1407074442

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JThAhRyM91g

Ultimate Seduction · 21-09-2018 9:50pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Does anyone feel like Helwani is not the force he used to be since going to ESPN? He's probably making much better coin but his podcast is just not the same and not as easily accessible as the old mma fighting version, and it seems like his finger isn't as on the pulse as it once was

I don't know how anyone listens to him. Nothing about the actual fights just stirring **** and taking digs at UFC.Really gave up on it when he cried live on air. What a steamer. No real guests but Anik an Florian is the best mma podcast I can find.

Porthallian · 21-09-2018 9:59pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't know how anyone listens to him. Nothing about the actual fights just stirring **** and taking digs at UFC.Really gave up on it when he cried live on air. What a steamer. No real guests but Anik an Florian is the best mma podcast I can find.

No real guests?
They have the "Ray Longo minute, starring Ray Longo"

EagererBeaver · 21-09-2018 11:03pm

Woodley out with a hand injury for 2-3 months says Helwani, so it'll not be him and Covington at 230.

ricero · 22-09-2018 12:37am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Woodley out with a hand injury for 2-3 months says Helwani, so it'll not be him and Covington at 230.

At this stage i reckon they will bump the Diaz fight to a 5 round main event unless its Dillashaw vs Cejudo or Cruz

ricero · 22-09-2018 12:38am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't know how anyone listens to him. Nothing about the actual fights just stirring **** and taking digs at UFC.Really gave up on it when he cried live on air. What a steamer. No real guests but Anik an Florian is the best mma podcast I can find.

Michael Bispings podcast 'Believe you me' is a fantastic mma podcast imo.

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