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Kia Niro EV

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  • #3452
    Stefs_42
    Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Stefs_42


    Has any of ye noticed UVO app glitching lately?
    It has become unresponsive for me, app is opening fine but execution of commands isnt working. Only getting this message "No-response" No response to remote climate control/lock doors, etc

    Any ideas how to get system back online?


  • #3453
    chewed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭chewed


    Stefs_42 wrote: »
    Has any of ye noticed UVO app glitching lately?
    It has become unresponsive for me, app is opening fine but execution of commands isnt working. Only getting this message "No-response" No response to remote climate control/lock doors, etc

    Any ideas how to get system back online?

    Yes, I did notice that yesterday when I was trying to check my battery percentage. It kept saying no response!

    Just tried it now and it works (to retrieve battery %) albeit a bit slow.


  • #3454
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    Hardly ever bother with it TBH. I think the data gleaned is more useful to Kia's R&D Dept than it really is to us.


  • #3455
    chewed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭chewed


    championc wrote: »
    Hardly ever bother with it TBH. I think the data gleaned is more useful to Kia's R&D Dept than it really is to us.

    I think the Send POI to Car feature is pretty handy. You can search for eircodes and then send to car. For some reason you can't search eircodes in the car's sat nav!


  • #3456
    Stefs_42
    Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Stefs_42


    Sent an email to KIA dealer about UVO issue, will see what they ll come up with


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  • #3457
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    App is working fine for me now. Didn’t use it yesterday, so I may have missed whatever the problem was.

    I like the app if only for being able to put on the heating when I’m about to leave work, now that the weather is getting colder.


  • #3458
    CoffeeBean2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭CoffeeBean2


    The UVO app appears to track trips, distance, time etc. And you can also view this information in the car itself.

    Is there anything similar to track the charge history of the car? Like On Tuesday at 9am the car was charged 12kWh or something like that, I think it would be really useful if you could track this in the car.


  • #3459
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    Might be available via the ODBII port ? I think you can get similar details from LeafSpy from a Leaf.


  • #3460
    darrenheaphy
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    chewed wrote: »
    I think the Send POI to Car feature is pretty handy. You can search for eircodes and then send to car. For some reason you can't search eircodes in the car's sat nav!

    Yeah me too, the nav UI in the car is functional but counter intuitive. I noticed UVO being unreliable too over the weekend even though I rarely use it. I stood outside the car at home on Saturday and unlocked with phone, the hazard lights flashed but then UVO presented some error


  • #3461
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    darrenheaphy wrote: »
    Yeah me too, the nav UI in the car is functional but counter intuitive. I noticed UVO being unreliable too over the weekend even though I rarely use it. I stood outside the car at home on Saturday and unlocked with phone, the hazard lights flashed but then UVO presented some error


    I could never get the unlock to work, Lock works fine though.


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  • #3462
    jasonc5432
    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭jasonc5432


    xboxdad wrote: »
    Well, a few people are paying 3xx here so with a middle-aged driver and b10 I'd expect to pay that. Will see if I can get it. Note, one person here said they went from an end-of-life car to the 41k car and got 3xx. That's similar to my situation.

    What is "b10"?


  • #3463
    jasonc5432
    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭jasonc5432


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    This is the road I went down. I cancelled the AA/Kia Assist, cancelled the garage (somewhat motivated by the fact that the car seemed to have picked up 400kms on the odometer between when it was towed away and when I got it back), cancelled the replacement vehicle, and got myself a charger and a jump starter kit. I left the battery on the charger for a few hours which didn't seem to make any appreciable difference, but the Nico Genius Boost worked like a charm and now has permanent residency in the car (general word of advice - don't keep it in the boot, as it's quite tricky to access when the 12V battery is dead). Needless to say, I'm a bit of a laughing stock after spending €40K on a car that, three months on, I need to pop the bonnet to start. It does seem to be alive this morning, so I'll see how things fare over the next week, and decide then if it needs to go back to the garage, for some more swapped parts and mysterious mileage.


    Any update on your issue? How are Kia dealing with you? Have many other owners got the same issue?


  • #3464
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    jasonc5432 wrote: »
    Any update on your issue? How are Kia dealing with you? Have many other owners got the same issue?
    I provided updates in later posts on this thread, but yes, all got sorted in the end. The problem was with the smart junction box (fuse box below the steering wheel). While there have been other 12v battery issues reported (to be fair, this isn't exclusive to eNiros), I haven't noticed any with exactly the same issue we had. The issues were a PITA and there were a lot of problems with finding a garage to sort it out, but generally speaking, Kia Ireland were ok. Took a lot of threatening with 'not fit for purpose' and 'refund', but we got there in the end. Problematic parts were replaced and the battery was replaced (though the garage/AA didn't think it was an issue). If you're buying one, I would suggest picking one up near where you live as you will have more leverage if things go wrong. We couldn't go back to the original dealership, as it was the other side of the country.

    Despite 5 weeks of heartache, we really love the car and I can definitely see us being happy with it for 8+ more years.


  • #3465
    jasonc5432
    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭jasonc5432


    darrenheaphy wrote: »
    Yeah me too, the nav UI in the car is functional but counter intuitive.

    Has anybody been using Android Auto with the eNiro? I use it all the time in my current car (not an eNiro) and never use the native maps system for this reason.

    Also, is it true that, even in Android Auto, the eNiro screen doesn't allow 'pinch' (multi touch) zooming in and out? My current car is a budget car compared to the eNiro and I find the pinch functionality very intuitive especially when figuring out congestion etc


  • #3466
    xboxdad
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    jasonc5432 wrote: »
    What is "b10"?


    bonus, 10 years without any claim


  • #3467
    xboxdad
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    jasonc5432 wrote: »
    Has anybody been using Android Auto with the eNiro? I use it all the time in my current car (not an eNiro) and never use the native maps system for this reason.

    Also, is it true that, even in Android Auto, the eNiro screen doesn't allow 'pinch' (multi touch) zooming in and out? My current car is a budget car compared to the eNiro and I find the pinch functionality very intuitive especially when figuring out congestion etc


    Me and my wife use Android Auto all the time. Never even tried the built-in nav in 11k kms.
    It does support pinch-to-zoom - on model year 2020 at least, not sure about the 2019 model.


  • #3468
    CoffeeBean2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭CoffeeBean2


    xboxdad wrote: »
    Me and my wife use Android Auto all the time. Never even tried the built-in nav in 11k kms.
    It does support pinch-to-zoom - on model year 2020 at least, not sure about the 2019 model.

    Personally I find the built in nav and functionality better than that of Android Auto. The fact that AA does not use the full screen is a little annoying.

    In the past, I found systems built into cars to be slow, but that's not the case here. At least not with the SE.


  • #3469
    xboxdad
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    CoffeeBean2 wrote: »
    Personally I find the built in nav and functionality better than that of Android Auto. The fact that AA does not use the full screen is a little annoying.

    In the past, I found systems built into cars to be slow, but that's not the case here. At least not with the SE.


    I want the same system everywhere. Even when I'm on a motorbike and using voice navigation with a headset. I get exactly that via Google Maps navigation.


    In my experience all these systems are imperfect and I need to get used to the ways they're failing and the situations they are making mistakes in.
    I don't want to get used to a new set of issues with a new car or on a motorbike. I know the good and bad about Google Maps and that's a very valuable thing to me.


  • #3470
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    CoffeeBean2 wrote: »
    Personally I find the built in nav and functionality better than that of Android Auto. The fact that AA does not use the full screen is a little annoying.

    In the past, I found systems built into cars to be slow, but that's not the case here. At least not with the SE.

    Me too. I like the way the "now and next" instructions are available in the driver display, along with the "distance to next" countdown, and having the distance to destination right beside the estimated range is great... especially when the destination is a charger. :D


  • #3471
    darrenheaphy
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    jasonc5432 wrote: »
    Has anybody been using Android Auto with the eNiro? I use it all the time in my current car (not an eNiro) and never use the native maps system for this reason.

    Also, is it true that, even in Android Auto, the eNiro screen doesn't allow 'pinch' (multi touch) zooming in and out? My current car is a budget car compared to the eNiro and I find the pinch functionality very intuitive especially when figuring out congestion etc

    It does support pinch, the interface is only counter intuitive when compared to Google but in and of itself is responsive. It has some really nice touches in the native map and integration not afforded by Apple Car thing (which I rarely, if ever, use), most mentioned here.

    The touch screen is also nicely responsive, no split second lag or the like. The only clunkiness is in the search interface, it just demonstrates how much more superior Google is.


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  • #3472
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    First time change with the car. Am I missing something or do I really have to manually toggle the daylight savings setting? A small thing in the grand scheme of things, but slightly disappointing that it isn't fully automatic.


  • #3473
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    JohnC. wrote: »
    First time change with the car. Am I missing something or do I really have to manually toggle the daylight savings setting? A small thing in the grand scheme of things, but slightly disappointing that it isn't fully automatic.

    There should be a setting in the infotainment that gives you the choice of how the car handles the time change. Something like where the car gets the time signal from.


  • #3474
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    JohnC. wrote: »
    First time change with the car. Am I missing something or do I really have to manually toggle the daylight savings setting? A small thing in the grand scheme of things, but slightly disappointing that it isn't fully automatic.
    Yes, it's a bit annoying. Even my old Nissan Pulsar handled it automatically.


  • #3475
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    JohnC. wrote: »
    First time change with the car. Am I missing something or do I really have to manually toggle the daylight savings setting? A small thing in the grand scheme of things, but slightly disappointing that it isn't fully automatic.

    I prefer a manual option as every 6 months they threaten to stop doing daylight savings time. If it was offline and automatic it would need a dealer update, if it was online and automatic it would need HQ to issue a fix. Either way its going to mess up a lot of automated systems in clocks, laptops, home heating timers, house alarms etc. Think of the amount of custom software for company clock in systems etc.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0716/1063487-daylight-savings-time/


  • #3476
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    zg3409 wrote: »
    I prefer a manual option as every 6 months they threaten to stop doing daylight savings time. If it was offline and automatic it would need a dealer update, if it was online and automatic it would need HQ to issue a fix. Either way its going to mess up a lot of automated systems in clocks, laptops, home heating timers, house alarms etc. Think of the amount of custom software for company clock in systems etc.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0716/1063487-daylight-savings-time/

    If they are to end it, there will probably be at least a years notice, not just deciding to stop it at the next change.


  • #3477
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    JohnC. wrote: »
    If they are to end it, there will probably be at least a years notice, not just deciding to stop it at the next change.

    From memory, the decision will be taken by all countries next march, as to whether to move their clocks forward an hour, or not


  • #3478
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    championc wrote: »
    From memory, the decision will be taken by all countries next march, as to whether to move their clocks forward an hour, or not

    Yeah i think the proposal was to stay on "summer time"

    Extra daylight in the evening is much better than the morning.. even if its not bright until 10 in the depths of winter.


  • #3479
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    graememk wrote: »
    Yeah i think the proposal was to stay on "summer time"

    Extra daylight in the evening is much better than the morning.. even if its not bright until 10 in the depths of winter.

    Yep, the vote went in favour of Summer Time, so the final vote will be whether to change it to Permanent summer or keep it changing Summer/Winter.

    I'm glad the majority chose Summer time because think about it, if we were permanent Winter time it would be bright at 3 am Summer and dark at 21:50 instead of 22:50 at the height of Summer and that is no good to anyone.

    I don't care about driving to work in the dark but I like to get home when it's a little brighter.


  • #3480
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Deleted User wrote: »

    I don't care about driving to work in the dark but I like to get home when it's a little brighter.

    Yeah even working outside, it would be dark when you start, but at least its always getting brighter, When you start losing the light in the evening, it goes fast. Esp in North Donegal.

    Ireland and the UK should stay the same though, Hopefully We'll go with it.


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  • #3481
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    graememk wrote: »
    Yeah even working outside, it would be dark when you start, but at least its always getting brighter, When you start losing the light in the evening, it goes fast. Esp in North Donegal.

    Ireland and the UK should stay the same though, Hopefully We'll go with it.

    I would imagine the U.K continuing with the outdated practice of changing the clocks twice a year.

    I would hope the Irish Government keep us on summer time and not worry about the North or use the North as an excuse to keep us changing the clocks twice a year this would be ridiculous.


  • #3482
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would imagine the U.K continuing with the outdated practice of changing the clocks twice a year.

    I would hope the Irish Government keep us on summer time and not worry about the North or use the North as an excuse to keep us changing the clocks twice a year this would be ridiculous.


    I'm more north than the North. :P

    granted your far enough away for it not to be an issue to you

    Yeah I can see the UK going that way.. Empire and all that. But having an hour time difference on the island would be such a pain in the ass for anyone near the border. Esp for people working cross border.

    Other half does, and my work hours are flexible. if it came to it we'd prob just stick to UK time at home.

    Dont get me wrong the whole daylight savings is silly, Sooner got rid of the better.


  • #3483
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    graememk wrote: »
    I'm more north than the North. :P

    granted your far enough away for it not to be an issue to you

    Yeah I can see the UK going that way.. Empire and all that. But having an hour time difference on the island would be such a pain in the ass for anyone near the border. Esp for people working cross border.

    Other half does, and my work hours are flexible. if it came to it we'd prob just stick to UK time at home.

    Dont get me wrong the whole daylight savings is silly, Sooner got rid of the better.

    Yeah I understand but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few lol :p

    lol no I'm just a real believer of keeping the clocks on summer time because loosing the hour of daylight if they are to keep us on winter time forever would be just severely depressing to me.


  • #3484
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    From memory, the gov said that they would take an all island approach. But of course, there's no reason for the Irish gov not to lead in this regard, rather than being led


  • #3485
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    championc wrote: »
    From memory, the gov said that they would take an all island approach. But of course, there's no reason for the Irish gov not to lead in this regard, rather than being led

    The Irish Government need to think about the needs of the Republic first, if the majority voted to stay on Summer time then we need to push the Government to do what's right for the Republic and keep us on Summer time, if the British want to keep changing the clocks twice a year that's their business the Irish Government must do what's right for the Republic.

    An all Island approach means the Irish Government will only do what's in the interest of the 6 Counties and this in my opinion would be wrong.


  • #3486
    chewed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭chewed


    Is this the Kia Niro forum? :confused:


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  • #3487
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chewed wrote: »
    Is this the Kia Niro forum? :confused:

    Back seat modding ? :D


  • #3488
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Back seat modding ? :D

    True, but hes not wrong! We're quite the ways off topic! :D


  • #3489
    Chumpski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Chumpski


    Is using the 3 pin to type 2 cable at home a bad idea for the Kia Eniro for either the long term health of the battery and car?

    Would it be a bad idea for either reliability or cost for the electricity supply for the house?

    (The reason I ask is that I'm in a terraced house with my fuse box in an awkward location at the back of the house which means an awkward install for a home charger, running cabling on the outside of multiple walls. Im trying to think of alternative solutions, like an external 3 pin plug outside the house).


  • #3490
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    Chumpski wrote: »
    Is using the 3 pin to type 2 cable at home a bad idea for the Kia Eniro for either the long term health of the battery and car?

    Would it be a bad idea for either reliability or cost for the electricity supply for the house?

    (The reason I ask is that I'm in a terraced house with my fuse box in an awkward location at the back of the house which means an awkward install for a home charger, running cabling on the outside of multiple walls. Im trying to think of alternative solutions, like an external 3 pin plug outside the house).

    Nothing wrong with what you propose. You just need to make sure that the outdoor socket wiring is sufficient to carry a 3kw continuous load. Mind you, you'd need to keep it fairly topped up since you'd never get it from 20% to full in one night.


  • #3491
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Think there are more losses when using a granny charger too. You'd not be able to charge only on a night rate. Youd have to plug in every night too. IMO it isn't a long term solution. 12 hours of charging would get you about 24kWh at best about 40% in an eNiro.

    Could you run cabling through the attic and to the front of the house? It'd be awkward either way though. That distance you'd be using 10sqr cabling, which isn't very flexible.


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  • #3492
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Chumpski wrote: »
    Is using the 3 pin to type 2 cable at home a bad idea for the Kia Eniro for either the long term health of the battery and car?

    It wont negatively affect the car or battery.

    Chumpski wrote: »
    Would it be a bad idea for either reliability or cost for the electricity supply for the house?

    Possibly and why its generally not recommended as a long term solution
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112650425&postcount=171
    Chumpski wrote: »
    (The reason I ask is that I'm in a terraced house with my fuse box in an awkward location at the back of the house which means an awkward install for a home charger, running cabling on the outside of multiple walls. Im trying to think of alternative solutions, like an external 3 pin plug outside the house).

    Usually you can run a cable up into the attic and down the front wall at wall plate level. It should be possible, you just need an electrician willing to spend the time.

    It would be worth it in the long run, particularly since you have a long range EV which is going to need higher levels of power to get a full charge during the 9hr night rate.


  • #3493
    Chumpski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Chumpski


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Think there are more losses when using a granny charger too. You'd not be able to charge only on a night rate. Youd have to plug in every night too. IMO it isn't a long term solution. 12 hours of charging would get you about 24kWh at best about 40% in an eNiro.

    Could you run cabling through the attic and to the front of the house? It'd be awkward either way though. That distance you'd be using 10sqr cabling, which isn't very flexible.

    We can't run cabling down the front of the house as its a new build with all houses having agreed to not modify the outside. To be honest, id rather not have a chunky cable coming down the outer wall either as I cant camoflauge it with paint due to brick pattern on the wall.

    Also, not happy about having ugly cabling going through multiple rooms in the house too.

    What do you mean by losses in a granny cable (sorry new to EVs and charging)?


  • #3494
    Chumpski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Chumpski


    KCross wrote: »
    It wont negatively affect the car or battery.




    Possibly and why its generally not recommended as a long term solution
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112650425&postcount=171



    Usually you can run a cable up into the attic and down the front wall at wall plate level. It should be possible, you just need an electrician willing to spend the time.

    It would be worth it in the long run, particularly since you have a long range EV which is going to need higher levels of power to get a full charge during the 9hr night rate.

    Yup, we would love to have a proper charger, just the house has to be ripped up to accommodate it is the problem.

    EDIT: Thanks for sharing your post with experiences using the 3 pin long term.


  • #3495
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Chumpski wrote: »
    We can't run cabling down the front of the house as its a new build with all houses having agreed to not modify the outside. To be honest, id rather not have a chunky cable coming down the outer wall either as I cant camoflauge it with paint due to brick pattern on the wall.

    Also, not happy about having ugly cabling going through multiple rooms in the house too.

    How about running the cable down behind a downpipe?

    If you cant run the cable down the outside wall maybe you can drill into the cavity and fetch the cable up into the attic from there? Its a bit harder but still possible.

    Ultimately you need to get an electrician onsite and get him to survey the place and give you options.
    Chumpski wrote: »
    What do you mean by losses in a granny cable (sorry new to EVs and charging)?

    The charger in the car is designed to give its max efficiency at a particular power level. The granny cable is well below that max efficiency power level so it costs a little extra to charge the car that way but its not something you'd need to worry about really in pure money terms. Pocket change.


  • #3496
    Chumpski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Chumpski


    Yup, had an electrician onsite this week and he recommended a route in the house, going through 3 rooms and a hallway and told us the outside wasn't possible. Crazy but I cant see an alternative route myself considering the outer wall, I don't think we can have a cable running down it.


  • #3497
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Chumpski wrote: »
    Yup, had an electrician onsite this week and he recommended a route in the house, going through 3 rooms and a hallway and told us the outside wasn't possible. Crazy but I cant see an alternative route myself considering the outer wall, I don't think we can have a cable running down it.

    I wouldn't of thought "agreeing to not modify the outside" was intended for something so minor. More that residents don't paint red brickwork, add a porch or stick a satellite on the front of the house.

    Bad design of a new build (no existing cabling or trunking for EV, fuse box at the rear) shouldn't hold you responsible to jump through hoops. Is it a managed property or was it just a general request to not adapt the front of houses?


  • #3498
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Places like that will soon be faced with no option but to allow a charge point to be installed. It's not feasible to ban them. But have a chat with whoever made this rule as it may not be the kind of modification they don't want to allow. They may be fine with it.


  • #3499
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,881 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Hi folks,

    Just wondering if anyone knows the major differences between the 2019 and 2020 eNiro?

    There seems to be a few 2019 models in the UK on sale for around €30k, even with VRT added on they're somewhat cheaper than the €38k for a new one here

    I'm wondering if there's any significant difference between the 2 models that would make the 2020 one worth the cost?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3500
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    Hi folks,

    Just wondering if anyone knows the major differences between the 2019 and 2020 eNiro?

    There seems to be a few 2019 models in the UK on sale for around €30k, even with VRT added on they're somewhat cheaper than the €38k for a new one here

    I'm wondering if there's any significant difference between the 2 models that would make the 2020 one worth the cost?

    Think the new one is over 40k here now.


  • #3501
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,881 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Think the new one is over 40k here now.

    Really??? It's 38,234 on the website, assuming 1k delivery that takes us up to 39k, hope there isn't anything else

    Even with the hassle of travelling the import is looking more attractive

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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