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  • #502
    él statutorio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭él statutorio


    I just stuck in the ntl/UPC cable from the wall point. I assume it'll have the Rte channels for free or am I being naive?


  • #503
    Mr McBoatface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    él statutorio wrote: »
    I just stuck in the ntl/UPC cable from the wall point. I assume it'll have the Rte channels for free or am I being naive?

    Misinformed maybe ... RTE's new digital platform Saorview requires an Aerial, it has nothing to do with SKY or UPC. If you are lucky you'll get the signal on a cheap rabbit's ear aerial that you can find for 4 euro in any Euro-saver shop.


  • #504
    él statutorio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭él statutorio


    Deadly, sure I can always repurpose a coat hanger!


  • #505
    It BeeMee
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭It BeeMee


    Picked up a LG 32LE4900 in Currys

    No country setting (that I could find) but switching off Automatic Numbering before a scan will put Saorview channels starting at position 1, otherwise it starts at 800.

    GMT time offset is changeable so no problems with EPG times etc

    MHEG5 teletext works fine on RTE though don't seem to have "normal" text on other channels - not really a problem for me but just be aware of it.


  • #506
    Souriau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Souriau


    It BeeMee wrote: »
    Picked up a LG 32LE4900 in Currys

    No country setting (that I could find) but switching off Automatic Numbering before a scan will put Saorview channels starting at position 1, otherwise it starts at 800.

    GMT time offset is changeable so no problems with EPG times etc

    MHEG5 teletext works fine on RTE though don't seem to have "normal" text on other channels - not really a problem for me but just be aware of it.
    If you can not get normal teletext, EBU, then also you will not get subtitles for the hard of hearing as RTE use Teletext for subtitle, UK use DVB for subtitles, hence that why my LG does not access Teletext or subtitles.
    able to get MHEG digital text...


  • #507
    ankles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    Ok. Not sure what my problem is, I have a Panasonic P42G10B bought in the North about 18 months ago. With an internal aerial plugged in I can get all the digital radio channels but no TV channels at all. I used to be able to get the digital TV channels, the RTE news channel etc. up until a couple of months ago. Are the digital radio channels on a different system? My instructions say I have DVB-S/S2 and DVB-T. have I lost the Saorview channels now that the system has "launched"? I thought the fact that I used to have them meant I would have them for good?

    Oops. Signal quality on my radio stations has dropped to zero. There go my radio stations as well.

    And now back again. Sheesh


  • #508
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    ankles wrote: »
    Ok. Not sure what my problem is, I have a Panasonic P42G10B bought in the North about 18 months ago. With an internal aerial plugged in I can get all the digital radio channels but no TV channels at all. I used to be able to get the digital TV channels, the RTE news channel etc. up until a couple of months ago. Are the digital radio channels on a different system? My instructions say I have DVB-S/S2 and DVB-T. have I lost the Saorview channels now that the system has "launched"? I thought the fact that I used to have them meant I would have them for good?

    Oops. Signal quality on my radio stations has dropped to zero. There go my radio stations as well.

    And now back again. Sheesh

    Loss of the radio channels is probably down to inadequate signal strength/quality from the internal aerial, outdoor or attic type may be required.

    Loss of the TV channels could be down to the Panasonic 0x16 / 0x19 Service Type problem - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72048195.

    Do a search here on the boards for your TV model.


  • #509
    Nemanja91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Nemanja91


    Sorry if this has been asked but I can't find anything on it, I have the Philips 32PFL7694H/12, although it is not on the list I was told in store that this is compatible with saorview, can anyone clarify this? If it is do I just need to download an update?

    Thanks,


  • #510
    huggs2
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭huggs2


    Nemanja91 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked but I can't find anything on it, I have the Philips 32PFL7694H/12, although it is not on the list I was told in store that this is compatible with saorview, can anyone clarify this? If it is do I just need to download an update?

    Thanks,

    Everything you need to know is here including the latest firmware update.
    http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=32PFL7694H/12&slg=en&scy=IE
    It will get you Saorview but you need to select "UK" as you country setting before tuning.You will probably have the guide times out by one hour.


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  • #511
    Nemanja91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Nemanja91


    huggs2 wrote: »
    Everything you need to know is here including the latest firmware update.
    http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=32PFL7694H/12&slg=en&scy=IE
    It will get you Saorview but you need to select "UK" as you country setting before tuning.You will probably have the guide times out by one hour.

    Just did everything there and it worked a charm, thanks a million.

    Watching the Cork match in HD now its great.

    Thanks again.


  • #512
    Conway_1
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Conway_1


    Hi, new here but have read alot of this thread. I recently bought a philips led tv model 26pfl3405 from harvey norman asked will it pick up saorview told it would so proceeded to purchase a wide band aerial later. Set up tv and a new aerial in Lahinch, Co. Clare tried full installation on ireland and uk setting but can only pick up analogue channels so just wondering if saorview signal is strong in this area or is problem on my side.


  • #513
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I had a quick look on the spec and I could see no mention of Digital Terrestial Tuner???

    A tv has to have DTT tuner as well as the old analogue.

    You were sold a pup as they say, and that's a bit mean.

    good luck

    gb


  • #514
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    If at all possible see it working in the shop with Digital Text , RTÉ News Now etc.

    26pfl3405 - http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/26pfl3405_12/26pfl3405_12_pss_aen.pdf


  • #515
    Richersounds.ie: John
    Company Representative Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: John


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    I had a quick look on the spec and I could see no mention of Digital Terrestial Tuner???

    A tv has to have DTT tuner as well as the old analogue.

    You were sold a pup as they say, and that's a bit mean.

    good luck

    gb

    GB,

    ....not correct - The 3405H range DOES have an MPEG4 tuner included - I have a 22" version myslef and use it in both the ROI and the UK frequently and it receives DTT in both areas no problem.

    ATVB,

    John Mc & Crew

    John McDonald / Managing Director / Richer Sounds Ireland / www.richersounds.ie / johnmc@richersounds.ie



  • #516
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    @Conway 1

    What are the analogue channel numbers and do you receive TV3?


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  • #517
    Verso
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭Verso


    Hi all,

    A quick question. My Sony Bravia KDL-32V5810 has an MPEG 4 tuner and picks up the Irish DTT stations through Channel 54 (3 Rock) with no problems.

    However I notice that with a Walker Saorview box RTE +1 comes in but I cannot see this through the Sony tuner.

    Does this mean that MPEG 4 compatibility is not necessarily Saorview?


  • #518
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    You will need to retune when RTE1+1 starts broadcasting at 7pm.


  • #519
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Verso wrote: »
    A quick question. My Sony Bravia KDL-32V5810 has an MPEG 4 tuner and picks up the Irish DTT stations through Channel 54 (3 Rock) with no problems.

    However I notice that with a Walker Saorview box RTE +1 comes in but I cannot see this through the Sony tuner.

    Does this mean that MPEG 4 compatibility is not necessarily Saorview?

    I own the W5810 version and any changes to the multiplex requires a retune.


  • #520
    Conway_1
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Conway_1


    @Conway 1

    What are the analogue channel numbers and do you receive TV3?

    RTE 1,2 and TG4, no TV3. Was just back in harvey norman and they said it was 26pfl3405H and that it should work on uk setting and gave me philips technical number and philips cust care so I will try a few more angles with aerial and run another installation again next time I'm there, then I will be looking for saorview approved tv if that fails


  • #521
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Now I am never wrong so follow this link from philips

    http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/26pfl3405_12/26pfl3405_12_pss_aen.pdf

    and then this one

    http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/26pfl3405h_05/26pfl3405h_05_pss_eng.pdf

    The op said said the first one and no H.

    If I was him I would look very closely at the model details, usually on the back, when he gets home. If it has the H then its ok but no H no DTT.

    This is bordering on sharp practice H on one model and not on another!!

    Getting TG4 and not TV3 is a bit of a worry.

    at the cush, check that model link, no dvb t in spec

    gb


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  • #522
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Conway_1 wrote: »
    @Conway 1

    What are the analogue channel numbers and do you receive TV3?

    RTE 1,2 and TG4, no TV3.

    That could indicate you're pointing at the local Lahinch transmitter, no TV3 and no Saorview DTT from there ever.

    Analogue UHF channels 40, 43, 50.

    You may have to reorientate your aerial to another transmitter and maybe upgrade your aerial.

    Use the coverage checker to find your nearest DTT transmitter - http://coverage.rtenl.ie/

    Can you post the full model no. of the TV, does it have an H at the end?


  • #523
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭swoofer


    He should be fine with a rooftop and MAGHERA. CH48. Thats about 40 miles from mast.


    gb--


  • #524
    Richersounds.ie: John
    Company Representative Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭Richersounds.ie: John


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    Now I am never wrong so follow this link from philips

    http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/26pfl3405_12/26pfl3405_12_pss_aen.pdf

    and then this one

    http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/2/26pfl3405h_05/26pfl3405h_05_pss_eng.pdf

    The op said said the first one and no H.

    If I was him I would look very closely at the model details, usually on the back, when he gets home. If it has the H then its ok but no H no DTT.

    This is bordering on sharp practice H on one model and not on another!!

    Getting TG4 and not TV3 is a bit of a worry.

    at the cush, check that model link, no dvb t in spec

    gb

    Not sharp practice!

    Philips (like most TV manufacturers) manufacture several versions of most TV dependant on which territory they are sold in.

    Philips Ireland only import the 'H' MPEG4 version of each model into the ROI and the 3405 has only ever been imported into the ROI in 'H' designation.

    I would respectfully suggest that the OP is in a poor reception area or is not tuning in correctly or needs to upgrade their antenna - if there is any doubt in the OP's mind we are happy to assist as a Philips retailer - they can give us a call on 01.474.0788 and we will do our very best to assist,

    ATVB,

    John Mc & The Philips Shop Crew

    John McDonald / Managing Director / Richer Sounds Ireland / www.richersounds.ie / johnmc@richersounds.ie



  • #525
    Verso
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭Verso


    Thanks DigiDec and The Cush.

    I carried out a retune on the Sony and all in order. After retune RTE + 1 came through.


  • #526
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    Good stuff.


  • #527
    Colin Rogan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Colin Rogan


    Am looking to get a 32" good value Sony, Samsung, or LG full HD TV that will work for Saorview (obviously since I am posting here!!).

    There is a Samsung LE32C530 for €359 in Power City. I see from the first post that this works for Saorview but it is not 'approved'. I also see that the more recent and more expensive D series is fully approved.

    My question here - is there anything I would miss out on by going for the C model or should I go for the D?


  • #528
    Doylers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Doylers


    Colin Rogan wrote: »
    Am looking to get a 32" good value Sony, Samsung, or LG full HD TV that will work for Saorview (obviously since I am posting here!!).

    There is a Samsung LE32C530 for €359 in Power City. I see from the first post that this works for Saorview but it is not 'approved'. I also see that the more recent and more expensive D series is fully approved.

    My question here - is there anything I would miss out on by going for the C model or should I go for the D?

    Im using the 40C7000, works smashing with saorview I don't even use an external aerial the tv's one works perfect. Receives rte HD and the new teletext.


  • #529
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    I see that Saorview have added some new product groups to their approved product listings ...

    http://www.saorview.ie/products-retailers/saorview-approved-product-listings/
    They have added Akura and Nordmende to their list. But unfortunately, they do not specify which specific products, but just link to their complete websites ..

    This is a bit slack by Saorview,as it is implying that all products on their websites are approved, which they clearly are not.

    I couldn't find any specific reference to Saorview on the Nordmende site and just 1 Product, the Lidl freeview box, on the Akura website ..


  • #530
    AdrianII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭AdrianII


    Doylers wrote: »
    Im using the 40C7000, works smashing with saorview I don't even use an external aerial the tv's one works perfect. Receives rte HD and the new teletext.

    im using the LED 40C6000 series, Soarview works perfectly


  • #531
    PressTheButton
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭PressTheButton


    bob11 wrote: »
    ...I couldn't find any specific reference to Saorview on the Nordmende site and just 1 Product, the Lidl freeview box, on the Akura website ..

    Just be aware not Lidl but Aldi selling the Akura Saorview STB (from today). The box is featured on Akura's website. Link:
    http://www.akura.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=431&category_id=41&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=89

    Aldi/Akura Saorview STB has its own thread here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056277418


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  • #532
    bodonnell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bodonnell


    Hi all,
    Have an lg 'pq6000' at home, saorview & mheg5 txt works great (except no rte1 +1).

    Have an lg 'pq3000' at work, just get sound


  • #533
    Souriau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Souriau


    bodonnell wrote: »
    Hi all,
    Have an lg 'pq6000' at home, saorview & mheg5 txt works great (except no rte1 +1).

    Have an lg 'pq3000' at work, just get sound
    RTE1+1 is part time, after 7pm so you need to check after 7pm or may need to "Update" the scan rather than "Add channels"


  • #534
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    bodonnell wrote: »
    Have an lg 'pq3000' at work, just get sound

    Sound and no picture would indicate a non compatible MPEG-2 TV but I've read elsewhere on the boards that the PQ3000 has a compatible MPEG-4 decoder and should work. Its from the same range as the PQ6000.

    Manual here - http://www.lg.com/uk/common/product/support.jsp?localeCd=uk&productId=42PQ6000&uri=/uk/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasm-tv-42PQ6000.jsp#

    Could it be the earlier PG3000, which isn't compatible?


  • #535
    benmeade
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭benmeade


    Anybody know if the sony kdl-46ex713u is working ok?

    The newer model is listed on the saorview site kdl-XXex723.


  • #536
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    benmeade wrote: »
    Anybody know if the sony kdl-46ex713u is working ok?

    It should be OK. The tuner is DVB-T2/MPEG-4 which is backwards compatible with the Irish standard DVB-T/MPEG-4.

    http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4180171141.pdf


  • #537
    Colin Rogan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Colin Rogan


    Colin Rogan wrote: »
    Am looking to get a 32" good value Sony, Samsung, or LG full HD TV that will work for Saorview (obviously since I am posting here!!).

    There is a Samsung LE32C530 for €359 in Power City. I see from the first post that this works for Saorview but it is not 'approved'. I also see that the more recent and more expensive D series is fully approved.

    My question here - is there anything I would miss out on by going for the C model or should I go for the D?

    Thanks for the responses on this. Nobody has really answered the question though - is there anything the 'approved' TVs have that the non-approved do not!


  • #538
    benmeade
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭benmeade


    Colin Rogan wrote: »
    Thanks for the responses on this. Nobody has really answered the question though - is there anything the 'approved' TVs have that the non-approved do not!

    Good question
    I'd like to have a bit of clarity on this also.

    Thanks for the reply cush, what about mheg5?


  • #539
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Colin Rogan wrote: »
    - is there anything the 'approved' TVs have that the non-approved do not!

    As far as I can see, no, except a certificate. If approved boxes have summertime issues, then the certification process is suspect.


  • #540
    Mr McBoatface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Colin Rogan wrote: »
    Is there anything the 'approved' TVs have that the non-approved do not!

    The answer to your question is Yes and No. Some non-certified TV or Set Top Boxes may work 100% currently but things may change if for example RTE decide to use AAC audio or series link. Some non-certified TV or Set Top Boxes may work but will not display the correction time on the EPG during summer, it will be out by an hour. Some non-certified TV's or Set Top Boxes may work but the channels may start in the 800's. Some non-certified TV or Set Top Boxes may work but without the ability to display the new digital MHEG5 text and interactive service.

    benmeade wrote: »
    Good question
    I'd like to have a bit of clarity on this also.

    I'm afraid you can't get clarity when the water is muddy smile.gif.


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  • #541
    Souriau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Souriau


    AFAIK Serial link got nothing to do with the time on the TV or STB, it received a start signal and stop signal from the broadcaster and then a new time and date with a new command code.
    for example. if a program is set for say, RTE1 tonight at 10pm but something come up, maybe a newsflash so the program is delay, the box will not record on time at 10pm but wait till it received the start command.
    So it does not matter if the time is an hour off or not
    I see this happening to my LG and I set to remind me when the program is to start
    even the time from RTE DTT is still GMT and we are in summertime, the guide show the time start and hour before it should but infact did start ontime for me


  • #542
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    jobyrne30 wrote: »


    I'm afraid you can't get clarity when the water is muddy smile.gif.

    Look, it is crystal clear that certification should give a box that is 100% compliant, but we hear that the Vestel boxes have some issues. Well, if it is certified, RTE NL will broadcast OTA updates so the user is automatically updated. That is a big plus, and also a guarantee.

    But it will only work if the said company will produce the update for them. Are Vestel (or any other manufacturer) going to support their boxes far into the future?


  • #543
    kevmol88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Just tried old Vhf aerial in Attic-Yes Vhf-receiving 18 saorview channels on ch 47-signal strength 75-


  • #544
    kevmol88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Sorry-location is north kerry-usually picking up signal on uhf from Maghera on Ch 48-


  • #545
    PressTheButton
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭PressTheButton


    kevmol88 wrote: »
    Just tried old Vhf aerial in Attic-Yes Vhf-receiving 18 saorview channels on ch 47-signal strength 75-

    For Saorview newbies:

    Saorview is broadcasting in UHF. Your iDTV (integrated digital TV with built-in tuner) or STB (set-top box), preferably Saorview approved, should be connected to a UHF aerial.

    http://www.tvtrade.ie/do-i-need-a-special-hd-digital-tv-aerial-to-get-saorview.html

    http://www.tvtrade.ie/saorview-digital-aerials.html

    http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/tuning-saorview/

    http://www.techtir.ie/radio-tv/uhf-aerials


  • #546
    kevmol88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Just wondering why a Vhf aerial is picking up the signal-my uhf aerial -horizontal polarisation-is also picking up ch 47-which is vertical polarisation


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  • #547
    kevmol88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Vhf and Uhf aerials are NOT combined


  • #548
    RubyXI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Got a saorview set top box and it's saying no channels available?


  • #549
    Charisteas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    kevmol88 wrote: »
    Vhf and Uhf aerials are NOT combined

    Are you sure about that? I have a rabbit ears antenna and the sticker on the back of it says UHF/VHF


  • #550
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    I think the other poster is referring to their own setup which consists of seperate VHF & UHF aerials which are usually combined using a diplexer (though not in this case).

    Your indoor aerial will get both, if it's so labeled. The 'rabbit ear' part is usually for VHF & I suppose there's a loop for UHF if it's the usual type.


  • #551
    kevmol88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    I think the other poster is referring to their own setup which consists of seperate VHF & UHF aerials which are usually combined using a diplexer (though not in this case).

    Your indoor aerial will get both, if it's so labeled. The 'rabbit ear' part is usually for VHF & I suppose there's a loop for UHF if it's the usual type.

    yes that is exactly it. I also tested a rabbit ears vhf/uhf indoor aeriel and signal strength is 70-The signal from ch 47(cnoc an oir) is so strong here that a coat hangar would probably pick it up-was surprised that the 20yr old vhf aerial in attic picked it up though


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