Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 8:00pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I was happy to see how well Bealham went. Been left in the cold far too long

He had a mighty fine cameo.

With regards Healy he gave away the dumbest penalty you will see in a long time. I think it happened about 55 minutes and he was called of shortly afterwards. If his head isn’t able to make the correct decision at 55/60 minutes against Italy then he is probably a 50 minute player with his sub coming on at 50. Will be interesting to see how that position goes in the remainder of the season.

CMcsporty · 25-10-2020 9:03pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

He had a mighty fine cameo.

With regards Healy he gave away the dumbest penalty you will see in a long time. I think it happened about 55 minutes and he was called of shortly afterwards. If his head isn’t able to make the correct decision at 55/60 minutes against Italy then he is probably a 50 minute player with his sub coming on at 50. Will be interesting to see how that position goes in the remainder of the season.

Healy has been giving away that exact penalty all his career.
Can someone just take a plank of wood to him the next time he does it? Because another year of coaching will not change his behaviour when the ball is at the base of a ruck.

He’s been a great servant and to finally come back to peak form in 2018 was a great achievement.
Time marches on and hopefully a viable LH alternative appears very soon.
Do you remember that lad who packed down at LH for 80 mins in Paris in 2016?
Seriously where did it all go wrong for Jack McGrath?

25-10-2020 9:37pm

CMcsporty wrote: »

Do you remember that lad who packed down at LH for 80 mins in Paris in 2016?
Seriously where did it all go wrong for Jack McGrath?

It’s an interesting one alright.

He had a stretch of truly excellent form for a couple of years during that period. Seems to have fallen off the pace lately for whatever reason...here’s hoping he makes a return to his best

D15er · 25-10-2020 10:08pm

CMcsporty wrote: »

Do you remember that lad who packed down at LH for 80 mins in Paris in 2016?
Seriously where did it all go wrong for Jack McGrath?

Got an injury in November 2018 and has never looked the same since.

BottleOfSmoke · 25-10-2020 11:59pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

...If he is our 2nd choice hooker, we are going to get emaciated by France...

UAEguy2020 wrote: »

Yeah because our choices at substitute hooker will be what helps France emancipate Ireland...

Genuinely curious as to what word you are both thinking of :pac:
Decimated?

Cookiemunster · 26-10-2020 12:21am

BottleOfSmoke wrote: »

Genuinely curious as to what word you are both thinking of :pac:
Decimated?

I reckon they must mean eviscerate(d).

Dog Botherer · 26-10-2020 2:04am

evaporated? excoriated?

Dave_The_Sheep · 26-10-2020 4:29am

Ironic, that.

[With that post deletion, this post now looks really odd]

Burkie1203 · 26-10-2020 10:29am

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1320657951967842304?s=19

Happy4all · 26-10-2020 10:32am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1320657951967842304?s=19

Is JGP out or just doubtful?

kuang1 · 26-10-2020 10:40am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1320657951967842304?s=19

Someone has to tell Marmion that cornflakes are not for pi$$ing in!

Bazzo · 26-10-2020 10:56am

kuang1 wrote: »

Someone has to tell Marmion that cornflakes are not for pi$$ing in!

Presume they need 3 fit scrum halves in camp at all times because of the 2 week bubble requirement. If one goes down they need 2 more fit

kuang1 · 26-10-2020 11:44am

Bazzo wrote: »

Presume they need 3 fit scrum halves in camp at all times because of the 2 week bubble requirement. If one goes down they need 2 more fit

Dopey moment for me there... For some reason I thought Marmion wasn't already in camp when he wasn't on the teamsheet on Saturday.

Anyone know if Ben Betts ever went to Leicester?

kilns · 26-10-2020 2:19pm

Is it just me or since Farrell has taken over the Irish team has got a lot more sloppy, I dont mean knock ones etc as we are rightly trying to expand our game but I am talking about conceding silly needless penalties and other things that were the hallmark of the previous management that enabled us to compete with the very best

If we can expand our game but keep the sloppiness down then we may be able to get back to where we are as the back row is now looking exciting, no disrepect to POM but we are much better attacking force without him, if only Murray could add a bit more zip to our game but I guess he aint going to change now

In any case we wont beat France but looking for the likes of Doris, Ryan and Porter to really stand up and show that they can be leaders going forward. We have to persist with Stockdale at full back for the time being and I have a feeling he could have a huge running game against the French

arsebiscuits1 · 26-10-2020 2:21pm

kilns wrote: »

Is it just me or since Farrell has taken over the Irish team has got a lot more sloppy, I dont mean knock ones etc as we are rightly trying to expand our game but I am talking about conceding silly needless penalties and other things that were the hallmark of the previous management that enabled us to compete with the very best

If we can expand our game but keep the sloppiness down then we may be able to get back to where we are as the back row is now looking exciting, no disrepect to POM but we are much better attacking force without him, if only Murray could add a bit more zip to our game but I guess he aint going to change now

In any case we wont beat France but looking for the likes of Doris, Ryan and Porter to really stand up and show that they can be leaders going forward. We have to persist with Stockdale at full back for the time being and I have a feeling he could have a huge running game against the French

It's just you...

In what world is 4 games an appropriate sample size to draw any conclusions? Especially in the current circumstances

sydthebeat · 26-10-2020 2:57pm

kilns wrote: »

Is it just me or since Farrell has taken over the Irish team has got a lot more sloppy, I dont mean knock ones etc as we are rightly trying to expand our game but I am talking about conceding silly needless penalties and other things that were the hallmark of the previous management that enabled us to compete with the very best

If we can expand our game but keep the sloppiness down then we may be able to get back to where we are as the back row is now looking exciting, no disrepect to POM but we are much better attacking force without him, if only Murray could add a bit more zip to our game but I guess he aint going to change now

In any case we wont beat France but looking for the likes of Doris, Ryan and Porter to really stand up and show that they can be leaders going forward. We have to persist with Stockdale at full back for the time being and I have a feeling he could have a huge running game against the French

pretty much everyone's penalty counts are increasing due to new interpretations.... so i wouldn't be looking at pen numbers as any real indicaator.

yes we gave away some silly pens, most notably Healys 'its out' incident.... but we have tended to give away a couple of head scratchers down through the years... i have memories of Healy, POM and Toner being susceptible to some unnecessary actions in a few games.

Are we looser, yes certainly.
Is that a big problem in the climate of trying to change the way we play...... i dont think so.

pickarooney · 26-10-2020 2:58pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Outrage could also be levelled that a non Irish player has taken the place of SH’s who are starting for their province, players who have played for Ireland at underage up along.

Let me be clear, because some people need it spelled out, I’ve no issue with JGP being given his shot, and he needs to be tied down as well, but the hypocrisy of the media in making a massive issue out of something a year ago that isn’t given any reference this year Is laughable.

While you mention perception it can be perceived that Kleyn over toner was an issue because it was a Munster player over a Leinster player, but that doesn’t exist in this case because it’s a leinster player over a Connacht player or a leinster player over a Munster player, and also a leinster player over a leinster player.

It could be that people recognise the quality of JGP and how he has achieved the call-up on merit while only people with a keen eye for that kind of thing recognise Kleyn as anything other than a big lump with no particular skill.

pickarooney · 26-10-2020 3:09pm

WhoamI2022 wrote: »

In reality the Italy game will not cost Ireland the championship, the opening game of the 6 nations v Scotland is the bigger issue. We should be expecting a bonus point victory at home v Scotland. If not at least putting up a decent points win.

Being skittled by England yet again is by far the biggest issue as we don't seem to have any plan other than letting it happen and trying to chase back the deficit over the other games.

pickarooney · 26-10-2020 3:14pm

Dog Botherer wrote: »

evaporated? excoriated?

emasculated?

Bogwoppit · 26-10-2020 5:40pm

pickarooney wrote: »

emasculated?

Excommunicated?

Neil3030 · 26-10-2020 5:49pm

Chapeau, BottleOfSmoke. That cheered me up.

FellasFellas · 26-10-2020 9:08pm

Quiz Q:

Who was the last scrumhalf actually born in each province to play for Ireland?

Munster

(Cannot be Stringer or Murray)

Leinster

Ulster

Connacht

sydthebeat · 26-10-2020 9:31pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

Quiz Q:

Who was the last scrumhalf actually born in each province to play for Ireland?

Munster

Leinster

Ulster

Connacht

Munster = TOL?

Buer · 26-10-2020 9:40pm

Reddan for Munster (wasn't mentioned that he needed to be playing for the province, just born there).

Luke McGrath for Leinster.

Kieran Campbell for Ulster?

Connacht, not sure. I'd say we're going back a long time. Tom Tierney is from Limerick, isn't he?

The Lost Sheep · 26-10-2020 9:41pm

Buer wrote: »

Reddan for Munster (wasn't mentioned that he needed to be playing for the province, just born there).

Luke McGrath for Leinster.

Kieran Campbell for Ulster?

Connacht, not sure. I'd say we're going back a long time. Tom Tierney is from Limerick, isn't he?

tierney is richmond, limerick.

bilston · 26-10-2020 9:43pm

Paul Marshall for Ulster

Buer · 26-10-2020 9:44pm

bilston wrote: »

Paul Marshall for Ulster

Forgot about him. Jesus, the clamour from people for him to be in the first choice Irish 23 used melt my head.

FellasFellas · 26-10-2020 9:44pm

Ulster is not Kieran Campbell, he was born in London.

*Yes Marshall, Reddan and Luke McGrath are correct.

bilston · 26-10-2020 9:44pm

Buer wrote: »

Reddan for Munster (wasn't mentioned that he needed to be playing for the province, just born there).

Luke McGrath for Leinster.

Kieran Campbell for Ulster?

Connacht, not sure. I'd say we're going back a long time. Tom Tierney is from Limerick, isn't he?

Surely Conor Murray is the answer for Munster?

Buer · 26-10-2020 9:45pm

bilston wrote: »

Surely Conor Murray is the answer for Munster?

Check the question again! Not including Stringer or Murray.

bilston · 26-10-2020 9:47pm

Buer wrote: »

Check the question again! Not including Stringer or Murray.

Only saw the quote above which had that bit edited out.

Would have to be Reddan then, I'm pretty sure he played after TOL's last match.

bilston · 26-10-2020 9:50pm

Where was Conor McGuinness born?

FellasFellas · 26-10-2020 9:52pm

bilston wrote: »

Where was Conor McGuinness born?

Belfast.

Played for a few places but born in Belfast.

the baby bull elephant · 26-10-2020 9:52pm

McGrath was born in Canada, so if you want to be strict it’s Cooney.

Buer · 26-10-2020 9:53pm

bilston wrote: »

Where was Conor McGuinness born?

Dublin I think.

FellasFellas · 26-10-2020 10:06pm

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

McGrath was born in Canada, so if you want to be strict it’s Cooney.

Hoisted by my own petard, very good.

Reddan
McGrath
Marshall

sydthebeat · 26-10-2020 10:36pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

Hoisted by my own petard, very good.

Reddan
McGrath
Marshall

Tomas o leary was after reddan

Podge_irl · 26-10-2020 10:39pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Tomas o leary was after reddan

Ah, but Reddan was also after Tomas O'Leary.

sydthebeat · 26-10-2020 10:49pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Ah, but Reddan was also after Tomas O'Leary.

Ah OK, I took the "to play for Ireland" to mean make their debut

Rigor Mortis · 26-10-2020 11:10pm

Buer wrote: »

Dublin I think.

I think Dublin, if elsewhere he moved here very young.

molloyjh · 26-10-2020 11:21pm

TOL

McGrath

Marshall

Marmion

Cookiemunster · 26-10-2020 11:35pm

molloyjh wrote: »

TOL

McGrath

Marshall

Marmion

Marmion was born in England and grew up in Wales.

Burkie1203 · 27-10-2020 7:45am

Work rate from Doris. Turnover, break, perfectly timed pass and kept tracking in case there was a recycle.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG0oLgvKtvQ/?igshid=1lmzo7qcxzd4y

mfceiling · 27-10-2020 11:36am

https://twitter.com/SquidgeRugby/status/1321018959689375746?s=09

Squidge with his take on Saturday's game.

AbusesToilets · 27-10-2020 12:20pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Work rate from Doris. Turnover, break, perfectly timed pass and kept tracking in case there was a recycle.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG0oLgvKtvQ/?igshid=1lmzo7qcxzd4y

Granted it's Italy, but that's easily one of the best tries we've scored in years.

aloooof · 27-10-2020 12:26pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Granted it's Italy, but that's easily one of the best tries we've scored in years.

Possibly since that Heaslip one vs Italy?

OneLungDavy · 27-10-2020 12:47pm

I actually think the Sexton try was the best one. It had such amazing interplay between backs and forwards.

bilston · 27-10-2020 1:02pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Granted it's Italy, but that's easily one of the best tries we've scored in years.

Good try, but Sexton's try was the perfect mix of power, pace and skilful hands.

errlloyd · 27-10-2020 2:14pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Work rate from Doris. Turnover, break, perfectly timed pass and kept tracking in case there was a recycle.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG0oLgvKtvQ/?igshid=1lmzo7qcxzd4y

Sorry what. Where does one find this glorious Ryle Nugent commentary live.

I have *ahem* access, to many sports channels. So very curious.

WhoamI2022 · 27-10-2020 2:20pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Sorry what. Where does one find this glorious Ryle Nugent commentary live.

I have *ahem* access, to many sports channels. So very curious.

Channel 4

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