"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

tabby aspreme · 15-01-2019 10:22am

justshane wrote: »

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109940444/rude-travelling-family-cause-police-call-out-to-hamilton-burger-king[/u.

Joesph Hansen-Ripia for President

Cee-Jay-Cee · 15-01-2019 10:26am

Working class heroes wrote: »

Oh look, a racist thread. How unusual.

How are Irish people talking about other irish people being racist? Travellers are not another race of people, they're Irish (unfortunately) people who contribute zero to society, cause trouble everywhere they go and because of their criminal behaviour are disliked by most people...and rightly so. That's not being racist, that's simply stating facts.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 10:29am

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

How are Irish people talking about other irish people being racist? Travellers are not another race of people, they're Irish (unfortunately) people who contribute zero to society, cause trouble everywhere they go and because of their criminal behaviour are disliked by most people...and rightly so.

That lad thinks everything is racist. He's a one-trick pony that darts in to these threads, screams racist at everybody, and then disappears for a while again.

pah · 15-01-2019 10:32am

Sonic Youth wrote: »

Travellers are white and as such cannot be victims of racism, as racism = power and privilege.

For example, if a traveller was pulled over by a cop in a America there would be no hassle. However, if the same cop pulled over a POC (person of colour) he would automatically assume the driver was a car thief or drug, just because of skin colour.

WOW

jay0109 · 15-01-2019 10:38am

Twice in the one day....and both before evening time!!!

The Burger King manager, who didn't want to be named, said they called police because the family were "causing problems".
"They were walking through the drive-through," the manager said as police spoke with family nearby.
"They were just here causing problems for other customers."
It is understood that the group were at the restaurant earlier in the day for quite some time before returning again in the afternoon.

cnocbui · 15-01-2019 10:39am

pah wrote: »

WOW

It would be interesting to see you counter that perception if you think there is no evidence that the Police in the US are colour biased in their treatment of people.

jay0109 · 15-01-2019 10:40am

Gravelly wrote: »

They must be shocked at that - all they were doing was littering beaches, threatening random strangers, ignoring the rules of the road, disrupting businesses, and intimidating staff - all the stuff that they normally do here without any consequences.

This captures it perfectly. What happened in NZ is everyday behaviour here and wouldn't even register a call to the Guards. And if you did ring them, they wouldn't show.
We have become so used to this type of intimidation, thuggery, aggressiveness, child neglect , thieving etc that it barely warrants a mention.

TomSweeney · 15-01-2019 10:46am

Strange that travellers would go to NZ on holiday, wouldn't imagine them traveliing there, would imagine them going to Canaries / Spain ..

jay0109 · 15-01-2019 10:46am

Has Kitty Holland, official reporter for Travellers with the mouthpiece Irish Times, anything to say on this

Unruly tourists: Woman, 26, charged with theft, family in strife over car seats for children
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190787

A 26-year-old woman connected to the troublesome English tourists who have left a trail of destruction in Auckland has been arrested and charged with theft in Hamilton.
A police spokeswoman said the woman will be appearing in Hamilton District Court tomorrow.
.....
The family told the Herald in an exclusive interview earlier today that they would be leaving New Zealand early because they had been misrepresented and no longer felt comfortable in New Zealand.

They'll be contacting Pavee Point no doubt!

Very accurate reporting in the NZ press :P

The woman said police were talking to a group of people including a young woman and a man with a large tummy.

supermouse · 15-01-2019 10:56am

Unfortunately I was on the same flight as them to NZ and got to witness their behavior first hand for 12 hours. They were disgustingly rude to the staff, made one airhostess cry, kept changing seats (the group was spread around the aircraft) making those in seats either side of them move on a regular basis. When the lights went off for the middle section of the flight the girl in the unicorn dressing-gown went through the galley with a fine tooth comb and a torch on her phone pocketing everything she possibly could .... then returning when she emptied the dressing gown into her bag. She continued this through the entire flight, taking whatever she could and throwing everything she didn't want on the ground.
Some passengers even asked to be moved away from them but with a full flight nothing could be done so not many people slept as you could imagine...
They then proceeded to have a massive fight, the big guy let his baby cry for a good hour while he watched a film and when the mother came to get the child he abused her to high heaven.
I am not one bit surprised at their behaviour here. They should be deported.

TomSweeney · 15-01-2019 10:59am

supermouse wrote: »

Unfortunately I was on the same flight as them to NZ and got to witness their behavior first hand for 12 hours. They were disgustingly rude to the staff, made one airhostess cry, kept changing seats (the group was spread around the aircraft) making those in seats either side of them move on a regular basis. When the lights went off for the middle section of the flight the girl in the unicorn dressing-gown went through the galley with a fine tooth comb and a torch on her phone pocketing everything she possibly could .... then returning when she emptied the dressing gown into her bag. She continued this through the entire flight, taking whatever she could and throwing everything she didn't want on the ground.
Some passengers even asked to be moved away from them but with a full flight nothing could be done so not many people slept as you could imagine...
They then proceeded to have a massive fight, the big guy let his baby cry for a good hour while he watched a film and when the mother came to get the child he abused her to high heaven.
I am not one bit surprised at their behaviour here. They should be deported.

Again, what the f*ck are these feckers doing in NZ ??

pah · 15-01-2019 11:01am

TomSweeney wrote: »

Again, what the f*ck are these animals doing on the planet ??

FYP

EdgeCase · 15-01-2019 11:01am

They are being deported. Also, it's interesting they're being described as "English Tourists" now so I assume they were travelling on UK passports / were born in England.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 11:02am

TomSweeney wrote: »

Again, what the f*ck are these animals doing in NZ ??

Building an empire boss.

4Ad · 15-01-2019 11:03am

supermouse wrote: »

Unfortunately I was on the same flight as them to NZ and got to witness their behavior first hand for 12 hours. They were disgustingly rude to the staff, made one airhostess cry, kept changing seats (the group was spread around the aircraft) making those in seats either side of them move on a regular basis. When the lights went off for the middle section of the flight the girl in the unicorn dressing-gown went through the galley with a fine tooth comb and a torch on her phone pocketing everything she possibly could .... then returning when she emptied the dressing gown into her bag. She continued this through the entire flight, taking whatever she could and throwing everything she didn't want on the ground.
Some passengers even asked to be moved away from them but with a full flight nothing could be done so not many people slept as you could imagine...
They then proceeded to have a massive fight, the big guy let his baby cry for a good hour while he watched a film and when the mother came to get the child he abused her to high heaven.
I am not one bit surprised at their behaviour here. They should be deported.

As if the flight wasn't long enough without having to put up with that crap..

EdgeCase · 15-01-2019 11:04am

I'm surprised the airline didn't land the plane and leave them somewhere nice and liberal about disruptive passengers, like China.

TomSweeney · 15-01-2019 11:05am

4Ad wrote: »

As if the flight wasn't long enough without having to put up with that crap..

They should seek first class on their return ..

supermouse · 15-01-2019 11:10am

4Ad wrote: »

As if the flight wasn't long enough without having to put up with that crap..

And.. I had food poisoning. I don't know which was worse....

15-01-2019 11:25am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Sonic Youth wrote: »

All the want, apparently, is to be treated like everyone else. So why do they spaz out when they're asked to behave like everyone else?

Because they are as arrogant as they are entitled

Being serious for a minute, travellers ( like some other cultures) are an "honour" culture

They view being corrected or taken to task about anything as a terrible slight, you see it with the tinker John connors on twitter, the time he proudly declared the criminals who took a JCB to a lidl store, were right and how he wouldn't report them, Connors doubled down when asked to retract, he made a point of insisting an apology would never happen

This is why even amongst themselves, feuds spring up over small things and last often for generations, they Never back down!

They are a people for whom values of the enlightenment are completely alien, a savage people, much like pirates of centuries ago, everything must be on their terms, they absolutely will not adhere to rules society or government mean to enforce, that is their nature and way, they have absolutely no interest in conforming to the norms in either Ireland or New Zealand, if they end up in prison because of it, that's just how life is which is a huge tragedy for everyone

that's very unfair, if what I've read is accurate pirates had something of a meritocratic/democratic society going on.
Aside from that, if people end up in prison for their behaviour, well it would be great if that was true, more locking up repeat offenders, I don't see how it is a huge tragedy for everyone, some people will never change and their outlook is supported by the opinions of vocal defenders with well meaning but misplaced intentions without the real experience of living beside these sorts.

15-01-2019 11:27am

Gravelly wrote: »

TomSweeney wrote: »

Again, what the f*ck are these animals doing in NZ ??

Building an empire boss.

probably moved on from Aus after their business model was discovered, new victims surely couldn't believe people would behave this way, they probably don't know how to deal with it at all, Id suggest they boot then out of the country, but I'd probably be slated for being racist against them somehow and their culture.

Working class heroes · 15-01-2019 11:33am

Gravelly wrote: »

That lad thinks everything is racist. He's a one-trick pony that darts in to these threads, screams racist at everybody, and then disappears for a while again.

Apologies if I have upset you.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 15-01-2019 11:35am

apparently, they are SCOUSERS!

makes sense now. YNWA!

awec · 15-01-2019 11:36am

in the video on Newshub you can clearly see one of them has a Brit passport.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 15-01-2019 11:38am

can i offer my sincere apologies to all members of our traveller minority.
to be confused with scousers is not nice.

15-01-2019 11:40am

yes and if you read some papers like the daily mail, they cannot say IRISH enough! Cnuts! they don't even know the difference, which is why their minister is where she is, doing what she's doing, and getting what she's getting!!!

awec · 15-01-2019 11:40am

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

can i offer my sincere apologies to all members of our traveller minority.
to be confused with scousers is not nice.

Well they all have Irish accents. They are definitely travellers.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 15-01-2019 11:48am

awec wrote: »

Well they all have Irish accents. They are definitely travellers.

Johnson is NOT a traveller name that i know of. it's very much a Liverpool name. David & Glen Johnson both played for LFC with distinction.
Mind you one was black?

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 11:49am

Working class heroes wrote: »

Apologies if I have upset you.

Not at all - I've two cocker spaniels, I'm used to silliness.

15-01-2019 11:53am

Driving white vans in NZ, deffo Irish Travellers.

pah · 15-01-2019 12:04pm

awec wrote: »

Well they all have Irish accents. They are definitely travellers.

Have you seen Snatch?

archer22 · 15-01-2019 12:06pm

EdgeCase wrote: »

I'm surprised the airline didn't land the plane and leave them somewhere nice and liberal about disruptive passengers, like China.

Yeah the Chinese would be the lads to show sensitivity to their ethnicity, culture and human rights alright

And the North Koreans would be even more sensitive and understanding :pac:

Working class heroes · 15-01-2019 12:09pm

Gravelly wrote: »

Not at all - I've two cocker spaniels, I'm used to silliness.

I don’t doubt it.

zell12 · 15-01-2019 12:34pm

DailyMail screams
British ‘gypsy’ family will be DEPORTED from New Zealand after locals say they ‘caused destruction across the country, caused mayhem on a flight, tried to cheat restaurants out of money and threatened violence’

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 12:39pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail screams
British ‘gypsy’ family will be DEPORTED from New Zealand after locals say they ‘caused destruction across the country, caused mayhem on a flight, tried to cheat restaurants out of money and threatened violence’

Happy Days - they're Brits!

archer22 · 15-01-2019 1:11pm

zell12 wrote: »

DailyMail screams
British ‘gypsy’ family will be DEPORTED from New Zealand after locals say they ‘caused destruction across the country, caused mayhem on a flight, tried to cheat restaurants out of money and threatened violence’

Will any Airline actually accept them now...I doubt it.

Kevin Finnerty · 15-01-2019 1:17pm

archer22 wrote: »

Will any Airline actually accept them now...I doubt it.

Probably under escort.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 1:21pm

Gravelly wrote: »

That lad thinks everything is racist. He's a one-trick pony that darts in to these threads, screams racist at everybody, and then disappears for a while again.

Or sneers at people for having the NECK to be born middle-class.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 1:29pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

Yes, and all cyclists are road hogging stuck up,wannabe middle class, tossers.

They didn't say all though, they said the majority - so, swing n' a miss. There you go too, using the term "middle-class" as a pejorative. Now I know it's fashionable n' all but instead of jumping on the bandwagon, think for yourself for a moment: middle-class by its very nature implies a diverse group of people. So I suggest, instead of jumping into a thread to say "racist" about anything - including in relation to those who are also white and Irish (travellers) and to have a pop at middle-class people, and then scurrying off like a rat, just form an opinion and write something a bit more in-depth.

shamrock55 wrote: »

I've always said it the majority of Irish are pure scumbag nackers

No they aren't. Idiocy.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 1:30pm

Zoey Rancid Zucchini wrote: »

Or sneers at people for having the NECK to be born middle-class.

Pretty much all them lads were born middle-class themselves, but have daddy issues that makes them pretend to be working class. College art courses are full of them.

razorblunt · 15-01-2019 1:35pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Johnson is NOT a traveller name that i know of. it's very much a Liverpool name. David & Glen Johnson both played for LFC with distinction.
Mind you one was black?

Glen Johnson was born in London.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 1:37pm

Gravelly wrote: »

Pretty much all them lads were born middle-class themselves, but have daddy issues that makes them pretend to be working class. College art courses are full of them.

And it's those folk who are the ones that'll defend the indefensible from travellers. Too many people think here is like the UK when it comes to class.

Or if they are working class they think they're better because of what they were born into. Le irony. The open-minded approach is of course not to give a sh1t what background someone comes from and to be concerned about their character only.

If a particular group has a very very high level of social problems in proportion to its populace, and which is hurting the group itself most of all, while decent travellers deserve a chance, what is wrong with acknowledging these problems?

Mad_maxx · 15-01-2019 1:38pm

Gravelly wrote: »

Pretty much all them lads were born middle-class themselves, but have daddy issues that makes them pretend to be working class. College art courses are full of them.

It's a prerequisite for a career in Irish media, hating middle class values

They never forgave us for rejecting bolshevism

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 1:39pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Glen Johnson was born in London.

Won the title with Chelsea if memory serves.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 1:41pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

It's a prerequisite for a career in Irish media, hating middle class values

They never forgave us for rejecting bolshevism

I've a nephew that did an arts degree in Cork and he reckoned the canteen at lunchtime was like a meeting of the communist party.

rafatoni · 15-01-2019 1:43pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Again, what the f*ck are these feckers doing in NZ ??

over there robbing the place, hardly touring Peter Jacksons film sets now are they.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 1:48pm

rafatoni wrote: »

over there robbing the place, hardly touring Peter Jacksons film sets now are they.

Hilariously, that's exactly what they were claiming to be there for!

'We're here to see the Hobbits ... I've been looking at the Hobbits my whole life, since I'm born, that was originally what our plans was but it's all been f***** up now ... I feel very unwelcome here. I feel like an alien invader, I don't feel happy and I'm far from Irish.'

sbsquarepants · 15-01-2019 1:49pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

Can we just set up a megathread for people to moan about travellers.

Good idea. I can't stand the fúckers!

TomSweeney wrote: »

Again, what the f*ck are these feckers doing in NZ ??

Travelling maybe? The clue is in the name!:D

It's actually a pity they don't do more of it, the less time they spend here the better as far as I'm concerned.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 15-01-2019 1:49pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

What a shower of filthy knackers. Not impressed at all to see a headline on one of the online papers saying "Go back to Ireland".

Seems every few months there is something in the press relating to Irish people abroad up to no good whether its murders, stabbings or robbing. These headlines including the nationailty are putting a racial bias in people minds.

Jaysus. If there was such a headline here for any other nationality this would be the major scandal.

ohnonotgmail · 15-01-2019 1:52pm

Gravelly wrote: »

I've a nephew that did an arts degree in Cork and he reckoned the canteen at lunchtime was like a meeting of the communist party.

Any man who is not a socialist at age 20 has no heart. Any man who is still a socialist at age 40 has no head.

Gravelly · 15-01-2019 1:54pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Any man who is not a socialist at age 20 has no heart. Any man who is still a socialist at age 40 has no head.

The problem with a lot of these arts course is that it seems to cause an infection of socialism that lasts for life.

"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

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