"Irish" tourists dump rubbish on NZ beach, threaten locals

elbyrneo wrote: »

Just a case of different "cultures" I think. Unfortunately recognised Irish ethnicity.....we can really get a bad name across the globe because of a small section of society.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/australasia/ill-knock-your-brains-out-group-of-irish-tourists-dump-rubbish-on-beach-and-threaten-locals-new-zealander-claims-37708654.html

What small section of society? The beaches here in Ireland are left in an appalling state during the summer months. Dirty lazy fckers won't put their own rubbish in a bin or bring it home with them.

Ethnicities aside for a moment, that's a reaction that I've had a few times in Ireland and also in England when someone's been called out on antisocial behaviour.

As an example, when I was a child in Dublin - I'd say I was about 7 and this woman lit a cigarette on the bus and was blowing smoke all over me. I told her to stop and she pretty much verbally attacked me hurling foul language and making violent threats. She wasn't a member of any particular ethnic group but it's stuck out in my memory for the rest of my life.

I also remember being in France and sitting on a riverside beach and these early rough English teens/early 20s types just abandoned all their bottles and rubbish on the ground. One of my French relatives walked up to them and asked them to take them away and they started shouting at him and walking away. He kept at them asking to clean them up and they just started threatening violence.

Luckily, it was a small town and a couple sitting on the beach at the same time were both local police officers, so they took notes and walked up and asked question. The family in question got a visit from the police later that day and ended up in court for causing pollution of a river.

I'm not saying France doesn't have the same problem. They've a huge issue with being unable to challenge antisocial behaviour too - although the police are a lot less polite about it than the Gardai or the UK forces.

There's a *big* problem in Ireland and in the UK where if you challenge someone doing something like that you risk being at the very least verbally abused. So, the result is that nobody does and a lot of horrible antisocial behaviour goes totally unchallenged as basically we're afraid say boo.

I mean, how many of us would walk up to someone in central Dublin or Cork who threw litter on the ground and say : pick that up please?
You know you'd be quite likely to get torn apart if you did. So we don't.

Try dropping litter like that in say Germany or The Netherlands and you'll get a lecturing.

It is cultural and it's a lot broader than one ethnic group. These islands have a whole world of Little Britain (TV series)'s Vicky Pollards. It's in the "what you lookin' ah!!!" style stuff in the cities here, it's in football hooliganism in England and so on.

I mean if you drive along the roads here in winter, the amount of garbage on the edge margins and in hedges is a national disgrace. It becomes really visible when the vegetation is less leafy. Why does anyone throw a take away out their window?! It's absolutely disgusting and shows no respect, pride or anything else for the country which is generally really pretty and pleasant.

The BEST I've ever seen was in Dublin:

Bunch of rough looking lads in a car going towards the East Link bridge towards Ringsend. They threw a load of rubbish out the window - McDonalds bags and whatever.

There was a bridge lift so they got stuck.

A lady walking her dog had picked up the rubbish. She walked up to the car, told them they were ****** ****** and threw the whole lot straight into their open sun roof.

Also the dog was quite large and aggressive when they gave her abuse it went for them lol On a lead, but they backed down quite rapidly.