Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 12:38pm

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You seem to wish to have someone jailed that has not committed any crime

Never once suggested Casey is a saint, back to usual tactics of claiming people have alluded to something?

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred. I said if he was found guilty I would wish to see him pay a penalty - a custodial sentence imo.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 12:39pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred. I said if he was found guilty I would wish to see him pay a penalty - a custodial sentence imo.

In your opinion. Nuff said!

Uncharted · 20-10-2018 12:39pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred. I said if he was found guilty I would wish to see him pay a penalty - a custodial sentence imo.

You're embarrassing yourself.

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 12:43pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

The indo are really stooping to their usual gutter excuse for journalism against this guy.

They've a more than misleading headline, that might (if dumb enough to not see through their bullsh1t) initially give one the impression that Casey made derogatory or racist comments about Varadkar, with a headline such as this.

It's only when you drill down into the nitty gritty of the article, it doesn't look like Casey said any such thing.

Certain media outlets have obviously decided that MDH is going to be kept on as president, and they're going to do whatever it takes to keep him there, even if it means labelling a man as a racist.

Can't understand why anyone buys the Indo? It's like the Sun. It should be boycotted. I also wonder what RTE would do if a sizeable percentage of the population refused to renew their t.v. licence in protest of their reporting and unfair treatment of Casey.

Ordinary man · 20-10-2018 12:43pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred. I said if he was found guilty I would wish to see him pay a penalty - a custodial sentence imo.

The likes of margaret cash with her list of previous crimes walks free from robbing a load of stuff but you want a man jailed for speaking the truth:rolleyes:

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 12:44pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred. I said if he was found guilty I would wish to see him pay a penalty - a custodial sentence imo.

Get off the stage with your ridiculous comments. Where is the "inciting" in anything he said?

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 12:46pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

The likes of margaret cash with her list of previous crimes walks free from robbing a load of stuff but you want a man jailed for speaking the truth:rolleyes:

This is the kind of bull**** these AH threads are famous for.

There is nowhere anywhere you will find a comment from me that looks for leinency for Margaret Cash. Take your misrepresentation elsewhere please.

CinemaGuy45 · 20-10-2018 12:48pm

Ordinary man wrote: »

The likes of margaret cash with her list of previous crimes walks free from robbing a load of stuff but you want a man jailed for speaking the truth:rolleyes:

Bit boss she is a minority.;)

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 12:48pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This is the kind of bull**** these AH threads are famous for.

There is nowhere anywhere you will find a comment from me that looks for leinency for Margaret Cash. Take your misrepresentation elsewhere please.

He never said you said that. You want Peter Casey jailed for speaking the truth. He made a comparison with your comments on Peter Casey and the Margaret Cash case. Try to keep up.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 12:48pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Get off the stage with your ridiculous comments. Where is the "inciting" in anything he said?

Folk baying for this man's 'opinion' to be heard, should take a moment to reflect on the irony of trying to ridicule the 'opinion' of others.

It really is a delicious irony to watch unfold.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 12:50pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Folk baying for this man's 'opinion' to be heard, should take a moment to reflect on the irony of trying to ridicule the 'opinion' of others.

It really is a delicious irony to watch unfold.

The irony is all on you. You want a man jailed for speaking his mind.

Yamanoto · 20-10-2018 12:51pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is my opinion he incited hatred and I presented the proof of that hatred.

Presume you'll be making a complaint to AGS so.

Don't forget to bring your 'proof'.

CinemaGuy45 · 20-10-2018 12:51pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This is the kind of bull**** these AH threads are famous for.

There is nowhere anywhere you will find a comment from me that looks for leinency for Margaret Cash. Take your misrepresentation elsewhere please.

He did not misrepresent you he said you want Cassy looked up while the likes of Cash with nearly 40 convictions walks free.

Where did he say you were looking for leniency for Cash?

So do you think Cash should have been locked up?

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 12:52pm

PikeyPoint wrote: »

He never said you said that. You want Peter Casey jailed for speaking the truth. He made a comparison with your comments on Peter Casey and the Margaret Cash case. Try to keep up.

No, again. You claim he was speaking the 'truth' and you want to make him President for doing it.

I don't think he was speaking the truth at all, he was generalising and in a dangerous way.
His own step away from his remarks proves the point. He doesn't want to be elected on the basis of them. Time for reflection for those voting for him too maybe?

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 12:53pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Folk baying for this man's 'opinion' to be heard, should take a moment to reflect on the irony of trying to ridicule the 'opinion' of others.

It really is a delicious irony to watch unfold.

You're ducking and diving now. I used to like and respect your posts even if I didn't agree with a lot of them but you're beginning to lose the plot here.

Please point out where Casey was "inciting" hatred as you claimed.

anthonyjmaher · 20-10-2018 12:55pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is nowhere anywhere you will find a comment from me that looks for leinency for Margaret Cash. Take your misrepresentation elsewhere please.

RTE presenter Margaret Cash to us like a normal, hard working, law abiding citizen who has just fallen on hard times. They should correct the record.

Mysterypunter · 20-10-2018 12:55pm

Casey is telling the truth, typically the leprechaun was outraged.

20-10-2018 12:59pm

What actual difference does it make that travellers are an ethnic minority?

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:01pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No, again. You claim he was speaking the 'truth' and you want to make him President for doing it.

I don't think he was speaking the truth at all, he was generalising and in a dangerous way.
His own step away from his remarks proves the point. He doesn't want to be elected on the basis of them. Time for reflection for those voting for him too maybe?

He is not backing away from his comments. He is standing by them. Read the news please. Even the slanted news against him states this.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:02pm

tayto lover wrote: »

You're ducking and diving now. I used to like and respect your posts even if I didn't agree with a lot of them but you're beginning to lose the plot here.

Please point out where Casey was "inciting" hatred as you claimed.

how am I ducking? I explained above why I think what I do. Accept the opinion or don't, that's fine, I just think it a delicious irony to be baying for one man's right to have an opinion while ridiculing another for having one. Which is what you did.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:03pm

bubblypop wrote: »

What actual difference does it make that travellers are an ethnic minority?

Free house and a ban on criticism for openers.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 1:03pm

FrancieBrady wrote:

If I thought for a minute he said it for genuine reasons, I would agree that he should run. His opinion needs challenging just like mine and others opinion. But his News At One radio and his later TV interviews convince me that he said something he doesn't believe in and used to get some cheap attention. He looked visibly shaken that he had unleashed something that scared him - hate.

The above is nothing than your opinion

FrancieBrady wrote:

For doing that, I think a short spell at the pleasure of the state would be more appropriate TBH.

Evidence of your lofty ideals about respecting the opinion of others.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:04pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

how am I ducking? I explained above why I think what I do. Accept the opinion or don't, that's fine, I just think it a delicious irony to be baying for one man's right to have an opinion while ridiculing another for having one. Which is what you did.

No, ridiculing you because you ridicule others for their opinion and wanting a man locked up for stating his. This is what you are doing.

NIMAN · 20-10-2018 1:04pm

bubblypop wrote: »

What actual difference does it make that travellers are an ethnic minority?

Means they have free reign to do whatever they want, and be above criticism or scrutiny.

anthonyjmaher · 20-10-2018 1:06pm

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Casey is telling the truth, typically the leprechaun was outraged.

But he is such a hypocrite anyway. As well as him LYING about going for a second term, I could not believe his Christmas message last year did not get more coverage in the media for how ridiculous the optics of it were, and how completely disconnected from the real world this man is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvNner1ZU0

Telling us all about how terrible the homeless crisis as he sits in front of his banquet and roaring fire. And him a socialist??? Would a socialist not have invited some of those less fortunate them himself to break bread at his table, or did he think they would appreciate the YouTube message more?

Beechwoodspark · 20-10-2018 1:09pm

Delighted Casey told veruca veradkar to p1ss off and mind his own business

All the usual gobsh1tes lining up to kick Casey on the radio at moment.

Casey number 1

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:10pm

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

But he is such a hypocrite anyway. As well as him LYING about going for a second term, I could not believe his Christmas message last year did not get more coverage in the media for how ridiculous the optics of it were, and how completely disconnected from the real world this man is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvNner1ZU0

Telling us all about how terrible the homeless crisis as he sits in front of his banquet and roaring fire. And him a socialist??? Would a socialist not have invited some of those less fortunate them himself to break bread at his table, or did he think they would appreciate the YouTube message more?

Does Mickey Dee have stables outside his Aras? Just wondering!

anthonyjmaher · 20-10-2018 1:10pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Delighted Casey told veruca veradkar to p1ss off and mind his own business. Casey number 1

Just listening to RTE now though. Their shill contributors are using this statement to further paint Casey as a racist. He may be left with no other option to resign.

Beechwoodspark · 20-10-2018 1:11pm

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Just listening to RTE now though. Their shill contributors are using this statement to further paint Casey as a racist. He may be left with no other option to resign.

He should never resign or apologize for his comments which have been blown out of all proportion to what he actually said

20-10-2018 1:11pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Means they have free reign to do whatever they want, and be above criticism or scrutiny.

I actually being serious. They declared them an ethnic minority last year, buy it doesn't make any difference does it?
It was illegal to discriminate against travellers for years, so that didn't change.

Does anyone actually know what difference it makes?

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 1:11pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

how am I ducking? I explained above why I think what I do. Accept the opinion or don't, that's fine, I just think it a delicious irony to be baying for one man's right to have an opinion while ridiculing another for having one. Which is what you did.

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:13pm

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The above is nothing than your opinion

Evidence of your lofty ideals about respecting the opinion of others.

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.

I don't think it is genuine because of his subsequent actions and I think he was visibly shaken when he realised what he said.
Further bad publicity for him on News At One there as RTE played the clip of him having a go at Leo and dragging Leo's ethnic status into it. .

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:14pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:16pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

Truth hurts the most. He didn't incite hatred, he simply told it as it is. The hatred is already there towards them. They earned this themselves.

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 1:16pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.
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I don't think it is genuine because of his subsequent actions and I think he was visibly shaken when he realised what he said.
Further bad publicity for him on News At One there as RTE played the clip of him having a go at Leo and dragging Leo's ethnic status into it. .

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

NasserShammaz · 20-10-2018 1:17pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Oh the irony !! Are you not doing exactly that yourself?

There was no inciting or racism in anything Casey said and nobody including yourself has been able to point out anything remotely resembling either.

Agreed. Casey talked about equality not division.

The hatred ,mistrust & genuine fear of this ethnic Moronity is real and with good reason if there is a stereotype of travellers as criminal thieving lying tax dodging violent wasters then it is them that have created it by their own actions and behavior.

If it walks like a duck, Quacks like a duck then...............

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:17pm

bubblypop wrote: »

I actually being serious. They declared them an ethnic minority last year, buy it doesn't make any difference does it?
It was illegal to discriminate against travellers for years, so that didn't change.

Does anyone actually know what difference it makes?

It makes no difference to anyone but them and does not diminish the status of anybody else or make them more equal or less.

It also does not insulate you from the laws of the land or social responsibilities. If a traveller breaks the law they are just as answerable as the rest of us.

If they aren't then that is the fault of those administering the law to be honest.

Beechwoodspark · 20-10-2018 1:18pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

Why are ppl losing their mind over someone mentioning varadkars ethnic background

Leo Varadkar is from an Indian background. Fact.

His father migrated to the Uk from India and met his mother who was an Irish nurse over there. Fact

They married and Leo is one of their children. Fact

Why are ppl not supposed to mention this?

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:19pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Did he actually mention Leo's ethnic status or did RTE just add that bit on as some here suggested? I haven't heard the piece yet.

Yes he does. He said something along the lines of 'Leo as an ethnic minoirity himself...Indian... should know that'

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:19pm

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Agreed. Casey talked about equality not division.

The hatred ,mistrust & genuine fear of this ethnic Moronity is real and with good reason if there is a stereotype of travellers as criminal thieving lying tax dodging violent wasters then it is them that have created it by their own actions and behavior.

If it walks like a duck, Quacks like a duck then...............

Are you suggesting Mickey Dee quacks?

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 1:20pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

You said he "incited hatred" and I say he just gave an opinion that resonated with a very sizeable proportion of the population based on their experiences with the Traveller community.
So he is not inciting hatred. He is empathising.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 1:20pm

FrancieBrady wrote:

Not 100% sure you read that original post correctly there Hitman. I would 'respect' his opinion if I thought it was genuine.

You have demonstrated yourself to be a bigot. I always found the advice 'when in a hole to stop digging'.

q85dw7osi4lebg · 20-10-2018 1:20pm

Literally everyone I have talked to in the past 3 days is voting Casey number 1. Colleagues, friends & family. He speaks for the majority, not the minority.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:21pm

tayto lover wrote: »

You said he "incited hatred" and I say he just gave an opinion that resonated with a very sizeable proportion of the population based on their experiences with the Traveller community.
So he is not inciting hatred. He is empathising.

Which is fair enough if that is what you believe. We have no idea how many it has resonated with actually.

Suckit · 20-10-2018 1:22pm

This is F*cking ridiculous that it is even an argument or discussion..

This guy is looking to be the head of State. Tarred a body of People with one sweeping statement - Will have no power to do anything/change anything, and has opened up an uncountable amount of abuse for the few Travellers that do decide to go to School, and realised a pereception for many more young Travellers.
This is most detrimental to young Travellers, who do not want to be tarred with the same brush, they must now be thinking that they cannot be unmarked.
To a 12 year old the options must seem very limited.

And all because it comes from a person who makes a living ripping off people in a different way. F*ck off.

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 1:23pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never mentioned 'racism' in relation to his remarks ever.

The conversation he sparked here is enough proof that he has incited hatred.

No he didn't. The hatred was there already so there was no incitement needed.
Casey just stated facts which backed up his opinion.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:23pm

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You have demonstrated yourself to be a bigot. .

I have?

As I said to Tayto, your disparaging and insulting reaction to my 'opinion' would lead me to believe you value no-ones opinion but your own. The classic definition of what you just called me.

PikeyPoint · 20-10-2018 1:24pm

Suckit wrote: »

This is F*cking ridiculous that it is even an argument or discussion..

This guy is looking to be the head of State. Tarred a body of People with one sweeping statement - Will have no power to do anything/change anything, and has opened up an uncountable amount of abuse for the few Travellers that do decide to go to School, and realised a pereception for many more young Travellers.
This is most detrimental to young Travellers, who do not want to be tarred with the same brush, they must now be thinking that they cannot be unmarked.
To a 12 year old the options must seem very limited.

And all because it comes from a person who makes a living ripping off people in a different way. F*ck off.

"the few Travellers that do decide to go to School"

Yep, very few. Meanwhile the rest......

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 1:24pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which is fair enough if that is what you believe. We have no idea how many it has resonated with actually.

A lot on here.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 1:25pm

tayto lover wrote: »

No he didn't. The hatred was there already so there was no incitement needed.
Casey just stated facts which backed up his opinion.

Yes and as you know hatred of blacks is there already and you will go to jail if you incite it or enflame it. Law of the land Tayto.

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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