FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

Bishop of hope · 30-10-2020 9:48pm

Bowie wrote: »

Cool. That's the talk alright.
You can want to follow what's the best health advice and still comment on issues as they arise. People are complex. Getting back to the pub thing. I was on board with whatever the advice was from them who know best, yet curious as to why distanced boozing was worse than distant boozing with chicken wings. Human nature Bish. In short saying 'clothes aren't essential' while supporting the availability of booze is worthy of comment IMO, level 5 or no.

It's the type of thing lads like this..

..either don't understand or pretend not to because it suits their political biases. You can see by the silly little generalities with no real basis in thought.

Or, you can hitch yourself to any old anti govt piss talk.
Gemma and yourself would get on I'd say.
If we'd had level five with exceptions yiz would have been on here harping about the levels plus or minus fractions
You made it quite plain you wanted level five, now you want to make an issue with level five and make exceptions, because someone else decided to go with campaigning for exceptions.
The band wagon rolls on, wheeeew wheeeew.

Truthvader · 30-10-2020 11:28pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Or, you can hitch yourself to any old anti govt piss talk.
Gemma and yourself would get on I'd say.
If we'd had level five with exceptions yiz would have been on here harping about the levels plus or minus fractions
You made it quite plain you wanted level five, now you want to make an issue with level five and make exceptions, because someone else decided to go with campaigning for exceptions.
The band wagon rolls on, wheeeew wheeeew.

Christ would someone just give Bowie a free house and be done with him

smurgen · 30-10-2020 11:29pm

Truthvader wrote: »

Christ would someone just give Bowie a free house and be done with him

Are you not banned?

30-10-2020 11:31pm

Truthvader wrote: »

Christ would someone just give Bowie a free house and be done with him

Is there life on Mars?

blanch152 · 30-10-2020 11:44pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

So would you close off-licences and open clothes shops? Wanna see what the alternative suggestions are here. What’s going on in NI btw?

Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland closed schools but kept the off-licences open.

Priorities.

FrancieBrady · 30-10-2020 11:44pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Or, you can hitch yourself to any old anti govt piss talk.
Gemma and yourself would get on I'd say.
If we'd had level five with exceptions yiz would have been on here harping about the levels plus or minus fractions
You made it quite plain you wanted level five, now you want to make an issue with level five and make exceptions, because someone else decided to go with campaigning for exceptions.
The band wagon rolls on, wheeeew wheeeew.

Such a plaintive leave us alone plea, bless Bish!

tobsey · 31-10-2020 12:57am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The poster said they would just get the 'groceries they need'.

As English has decided that 'clothes are not essential', I asked: would you like somebody going through your grocery trolley deciding what was 'essential'?

No I wouldn’t like that, but that’s not what’s happening. Regardless of what English said last night, clothing retail is not essential, clothes are, but not the retail sale of them in shops. You can buy any clothes online from pretty much all the major retailers and have them delivered within a day or two. There’s no prohibition on buying clothes, you just can’t buy them from a bricks and mortar shop.

It’s good to see our numbers in relation to Covid are ok the right track, especially compared to most of our neighbours in Europe. Perhaps the government decisions were correct.

James Brown · 31-10-2020 1:59am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Or, you can hitch yourself to any old anti govt piss talk.
Gemma and yourself would get on I'd say.
If we'd had level five with exceptions yiz would have been on here harping about the levels plus or minus fractions
You made it quite plain you wanted level five, now you want to make an issue with level five and make exceptions, because someone else decided to go with campaigning for exceptions.
The band wagon rolls on, wheeeew wheeeew.

Thats lovely chat Bish. So discussing if clothes are essential or not or as essential as booze is akin to being anti mask or whatever your one is?
As I said yis must get comfort believing you do no wrong and everyone is just bias for the laugh. FG out of touch and living in a dream.

James Brown · 31-10-2020 2:02am

blanch152 wrote: »

Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland closed schools but kept the off-licences open.

Priorities.

Obsessed. Wrong thread horse.

James Brown · 31-10-2020 2:05am

Truthvader wrote: »

Christ would someone just give Bowie a free house and be done with him

Very worried for you TV. Maybe stop checking for keyholder announcements, (the troubles are over) and actually read the comments have you foaming at the mouth

Bishop of hope · 31-10-2020 9:16am

Bowie wrote: »

Thats lovely chat Bish. So discussing if clothes are essential or not or as essential as booze is akin to being anti mask or whatever your one is?
As I said yis must get comfort believing you do no wrong and everyone is just bias for the laugh. FG out of touch and living in a dream.

Why discuss it now? What changed your mind?
The levels as stated are quite clear, I read them and knew what they entailed closing, I thought it was too much, I knew what I thought essential and not, and clothing would have been on my essential list especially at this time of year and the oh so changeable weather.
I said level 5 was too harsh imo.
But you wanted level 5, not because you wanted level 5 apparently, but because you thought Leo/FG/govt didn't.
That's the way I see it.
Perhaps you could tell me now what level you would favour or tweaks you would like to see and why?

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 9:52am

Whatever is against what the Govt want is the answer to that Bish.

smurgen · 31-10-2020 10:23am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Whatever is against what the Govt want is the answer to that Bish.

Lot of anger Brendi bai! Best avoided Brendi!

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 10:41am

The bould Conor staying very ‘schtumm’ up there, I see.

Looks like the rozzers getting involved now, might loosen a few tongues eh.

Sauce for the goose an all that........

golfball37 · 31-10-2020 12:17pm

https://villagemagazineireland2020.medium.com/leo-varadkar-lawbreaker-t%C3%A1naiste-leaked-confidential-document-to-friend-efdd1f14cfcb

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 12:45pm

golfball37 wrote: »

https://villagemagazineireland2020.medium.com/leo-varadkar-lawbreaker-t%C3%A1naiste-leaked-confidential-document-to-friend-efdd1f14cfcb

Lot of supposition and flimsy stuff...

Let’s see how it all shakes out.....

Nobotty · 31-10-2020 1:10pm

golfball37 wrote: »

https://villagemagazineireland2020.medium.com/leo-varadkar-lawbreaker-t%C3%A1naiste-leaked-confidential-document-to-friend-efdd1f14cfcb

Jesus, will the village have to lawyer up
Theres a lot of hearsay and conjecture in there
No evidence of where MoT got that file either or whether it was a draft or privileged even
I feel sorry for Maithu o Túathail who is a very kind soul
Nothing convincing either given the headline, other than MoT likes to blow about his contacts.
Its also padded with lines like 'Barrett who works at Dennis O'brien's Beacon hospital '
That has nothing to do with the allegation
But it does show the writers agenda
I'd have left that bit out

They even say 'may' further in,which is not definite unlike the headline

You'd imagine though,its rose their sales a bit this week among the Leo the leak twitterati, who having seen the article is free are cursing themselves this morning for having rushed out to buy it

I'd say there'll be no action because a known tactic in dealing with mischievous allegations like for example those for years against Gerry Adams by media set against you is to ignore it

golfball37 · 31-10-2020 1:50pm

It has to be addressed one way or the other. There’s a potential custodial sentence if the allegations are true and it can’t be ignored because of the publications agenda.

Nobotty · 31-10-2020 2:02pm

golfball37 wrote: »

It has to be addressed one way or the other. There’s a potential custodial sentence if the allegations are true and it can’t be ignored because of the publications agenda.

That would need a complaint to Gardaí
No shortage of takers on that I'd say

smurgen · 31-10-2020 2:19pm

FF smell blood.

https://twitter.com/OCallaghanJim/status/1322526023410458626?s=19

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 2:23pm

smurgen wrote: »

FF smell blood.

https://twitter.com/OCallaghanJim/status/1322526023410458626?s=19

Smell blood from where?

What names of persons are standing up and taking responsibility for this output.

Now if I was Micheal Martin first thing I’d do is ditch that dissident O’Callaghan.

smurgen · 31-10-2020 2:29pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Smell blood from where?

What names of persons are standing up and taking responsibility for this output.

Now if I was Micheal Martin first thing I’d do is ditch that dissident O’Callaghan.

Lot of anger Brendi best stay away!

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 2:32pm

smurgen wrote: »

Lot of anger Brendi best stay away!

I’ll put that down as a deflection Mr S.

Now go back to mining Twitter for unsubstantiated bulldust.

McMurphy · 31-10-2020 2:32pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Smell blood from where?

What names of persons are standing up and taking responsibility for this output.

Now if I was Micheal Martin first thing I’d do is ditch that dissident O’Callaghan.

Lot of anger in this post Brenner, prob best staying away for a bit bro, they're doing 5 X Lomza for €9 in my local Centra btw, might be time for you to head out and buy a few.

Not too early in the day yet is it?

James Brown · 31-10-2020 3:20pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Why discuss it now? What changed your mind?
The levels as stated are quite clear, I read them and knew what they entailed closing, I thought it was too much, I knew what I thought essential and not, and clothing would have been on my essential list especially at this time of year and the oh so changeable weather.
I said level 5 was too harsh imo.
But you wanted level 5, not because you wanted level 5 apparently, but because you thought Leo/FG/govt didn't.
That's the way I see it.
Perhaps you could tell me now what level you would favour or tweaks you would like to see and why?

You're believing your own created made up idea of spin not what I actually post. As I just said, I was discussing pubs/schools/meat factories at all stages.

Bowie wrote: »

Why are you always complaining or giving out about people passing comment on topic, in the correct thread? If you're not diverting you're questioning the poster's intent or telling lies. Why is stopping these discussions so important to you?
These are fair questions on government actions/statements. Damo said clothes weren't essential. It's open to debate and what's the harm? You can get booze, but not a coat. Fair query. I made similar about schools and pubs and was accused of questioning NPHET or thinking I knew better.
I think the paranoia has set in since partnering with FF.

What ever the health experts say is worth considering seriously Bish.
You can also discuss it

James Brown · 31-10-2020 3:32pm

A FG TD involved in cronyism and possibly on the take?

smurgen · 31-10-2020 3:36pm

He knew it was coming too lol.

https://twitter.com/Bryan_Wall/status/1322504394429075458?s=19

James Brown · 31-10-2020 3:38pm

smurgen wrote: »

He knew it was coming too lol.

https://twitter.com/Bryan_Wall/status/1322504394429075458?s=19

The boys in blue will be on to lie and insult everyone any time now.
#notanormalparty

Truthvader · 31-10-2020 4:00pm

Bowie wrote: »

The boys in blue will be on to lie and insult everyone any time now.
#notanormalparty

Or maybe they wont, Does not look good.

Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 4:06pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Lot of anger in this post Brenner, prob best staying away for a bit bro, they're doing 5 X Lomza for €9 in my local Centra btw, might be time for you to head out and buy a few.

Not too early in the day yet is it?

Is it pasteurized Randal? Not too bad value so

Went for 6pk Stella for €7.87 with a 4 spot of Tyskie for a change.

Never too early to stock up.

Muahahaha · 31-10-2020 5:14pm

Bowie wrote: »

The boys in blue will be on to lie and insult everyone any time now.
#notanormalparty

We've already had one Fine Gaeler on their way to prison this week, we couldnt possibly have a second??? Its up to 10 years I believe for breaching the Official Secrets act, Leo the Leak just cant resist himself

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Is it pasteurized Randal? Not too bad value so

Went for 6pk Stella for €7.87 with a 4 spot of Tyskie for a change.

Never too early to stock up.

Lot of anger in that Stella Bren, its not known as wife beater for nothing

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Brendan Bendar · 31-10-2020 5:21pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

We've already had one Fine Gaeler on their way to prison this week, we couldnt possibly have a second??? Its up to 10 years I believe for breaching the Official Secrets act, Leo the Leak just cant resist himself

Lot of anger in that Stella Bren, its not known as wife beater for nothing

What’s the ABV of that stuff?

It’s the detail that counts.....

McMurphy · 31-10-2020 5:53pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Is it pasteurized Randal? Not too bad value so

Went for 6pk Stella for €7.87 with a 4 spot of Tyskie for a change.

Never too early to stock up.

All 3 are there Brenner, pasteurised, export and unfiltered. You're like myself though, pasteurised is the best by a mile.

smurgen · 31-10-2020 5:54pm

Cannot wait to see what plays out in the Dail next week.

smurgen · 31-10-2020 6:18pm

I'm betting this is the end of Leo.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1322585211801055232?s=19

Muahahaha · 31-10-2020 7:00pm

Has anyone rang Big Phil Hogan for comment on Leos leaking? Maybe give Maria Bailey a shout there too :pac:

James Brown · 31-10-2020 8:03pm

LV's ego and idiocy was bound to trip him up.
He's admitted he did it now just claiming he'd good reason and it wasn't illegal per se...

Fann Linn · 31-10-2020 8:05pm

Bowie wrote: »

LV's ego and idiocy was bound to trip him up.
He's admitted he did it now just claiming he'd good reason and it wasn't illegal per se...

Pride comes before a fall.

smurgen · 01-11-2020 1:15am

Fine Gaels AG going strong.

https://twitter.com/JohnBurnsST/status/1322662538845323265?s=19

smurgen · 01-11-2020 1:03pm

Twitter is funny today &#55358;&#56611;

https://twitter.com/leeam_dubwest/status/1322863123766849536?s=19

tobsey · 01-11-2020 1:32pm

smurgen wrote: »

He knew it was coming too lol.

https://twitter.com/Bryan_Wall/status/1322504394429075458?s=19

Why are you spamming the thread with Twitter posts? Could you not just say, “Varadkar was asked for comment and didn’t respond, he knew this was coming”? Save the rest of us scrolling through crap.

On the other Twitter lost above quoting Donnelly in the Dail, he was complaint that GPs hadn’t seen the deal, Varadkar gave the deal to an organisation with 1200 GPs as members, so it looks like he was ahead of Donnelly there.

Brendan Bendar · 01-11-2020 2:14pm

tobsey wrote: »

Why are you spamming the thread with Twitter posts? Could you not just say, “Varadkar was asked for comment and didn’t respond, he knew this was coming”? Save the rest of us scrolling through crap.

On the other Twitter lost above quoting Donnelly in the Dail, he was complaint that GPs hadn’t seen the deal, Varadkar gave the deal to an organisation with 1200 GPs as members, so it looks like he was ahead of Donnelly there.

Have to agree with you there Tee.

This business of spamming the thread with Twitter lifts is getting quite tiresome.

If we all took that tactic, I’m sure the management of the site would quite rightly get concerned.

Hopefully an end will be put to the abuse of this practice.

Fann Linn · 01-11-2020 2:17pm

tobsey wrote: »

Why are you spamming the thread with Twitter posts? Could you not just say, “Varadkar was asked for comment and didn’t respond, he knew this was coming”? Save the rest of us scrolling through crap.

On the other Twitter lost above quoting Donnelly in the Dail, he was complaint that GPs hadn’t seen the deal, Varadkar gave the deal to an organisation with 1200 GPs as members, so it looks like he was ahead of Donnelly there.

It's a link. If he just said LV was asked for a comment the next post would be; 'any links? '

McMurphy · 01-11-2020 2:35pm

Lads and lassies, twitter has long been a recognised source of news for almost a decade now (possibly more?)

Have a look over on some of the Brexit related threads in the main politics forum, and you will see a fairly hefty percentage (a majority probably) are twitter links from various sources.

Look it, I know Leo is in a spot of serious hot water here, but moaning about people posting links that from twitter that are directly related to the thread title is unbecoming.

Don't like the news so try and shoot the messenger.

Also...

smurgen wrote: »

Twitter is funny today ��

https://twitter.com/leeam_dubwest/status/1322863123766849536?s=19

I would not buy a ticket for that draw.

*Unless Leo couriered to me, the winning ticket in advance of the actual draw that is.

James Brown · 01-11-2020 3:03pm

tobsey wrote: »

Why are you spamming the thread with Twitter posts? Could you not just say, “Varadkar was asked for comment and didn’t respond, he knew this was coming”? Save the rest of us scrolling through crap.

On the other Twitter lost above quoting Donnelly in the Dail, he was complaint that GPs hadn’t seen the deal, Varadkar gave the deal to an organisation with 1200 GPs as members, so it looks like he was ahead of Donnelly there.

Not so. He sent it to a pal who was high up in that organisation before the health minister or any opposition or other group saw it. Thats the issue. Thats the problem for him.
Even LV's excuse says it was only partially available, which nobody has confirmed all stating they hadn't seen any of it.
Get your facts right or in the least be an apologist for what LV actually claims.

Nobotty · 01-11-2020 3:09pm

Bowie wrote: »

Not so. He sent it to a pal who was high up in that organisation before the health minister or any opposition or other group saw it. Thats the issue. Thats the problem for him.
Even LV's excuse says it was only partially available, which nobody has confirmed all stating they hadn't seen any of it.
Get your facts right or in the least be an apologist for what LV actually claims.

The health minister hadn't seen the agreement?
Are you sure about that?

tobsey · 01-11-2020 3:39pm

Bowie wrote: »

Not so. He sent it to a pal who was high up in that organisation before the health minister or any opposition or other group saw it. Thats the issue. Thats the problem for him.
Even LV's excuse says it was only partially available, which nobody has confirmed all stating they hadn't seen any of it.
Get your facts right or in the least be an apologist for what LV actually claims.

An independent opposition TD in the Dail had seen it because he was a member of the IMO. I’m guessing you mean health spokespeople of opposition parties, rather than the health minister

tobsey · 01-11-2020 3:44pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Lads and lassies, twitter has long been a recognised source of news for almost a decade now (possibly more?)

Have a look over on some of the Brexit related threads in the main politics forum, and you will see a fairly hefty percentage (a majority probably) are twitter links from various sources.

Look it, I know Leo is in a spot of serious hot water here, but moaning about people posting links that from twitter that are directly related to the thread title is unbecoming.

Don't like the news so try and shoot the messenger.

Also...

I would not buy a ticket for that draw.

*Unless Leo couriered to me, the winning ticket in advance of the actual draw that is.

It’s one thing posting a tweet from Richard Chambers, but a tweet from some randomer is not news.

And to the other person who said he’d be challenged for links, the tweet had a photo of the article that we’ve been discussing the last two days. The article itself is the source for saying Varadkar knew it was coming. No need for a tweet to make the point

01-11-2020 3:45pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Lads and lassies, twitter has long been a recognised source of news for almost a decade now (possibly more?)

Have a look over on some of the Brexit related threads in the main politics forum, and you will see a fairly hefty percentage (a majority probably) are twitter links from various sources.

Look it, I know Leo is in a spot of serious hot water here, but moaning about people posting links that from twitter that are directly related to the thread title is unbecoming.

Don't like the news so try and shoot the messenger.

Also...

I would not buy a ticket for that draw.

*Unless Leo couriered to me, the winning ticket in advance of the actual draw that is.

As were Bunty, Judy and The Beano back in the day. I believed everything they wrote!

FrancieBrady · 01-11-2020 3:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As were Bunty, Judy and The Beano back in the day. I believed everything they wrote!

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes

https://twitter.com/irishexaminer

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie

https://twitter.com/rtenews

Yeh...dodgy Maryanne, very dodgy.

You are becoming like a parody.

FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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