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So Patrick street is bus only from Thursday 9th August

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    #1862
    richiepurgas
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭richiepurgas


    TheChizler wrote: »
    I'd imagine they mean Capwell

    There are just a handful of routes passing there and I've never seen a bus stop there to allow a driver go on a break.


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    #1863
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    The bus system needs to be redesigned asap. There needs to be more routes and more busses.the average cost of running each bus would need to come down,therefore drivers pay would need to be reduced. I think at this stage it needs to be done for the health of the city.


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    #1864
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    richiepurgas wrote: »
    There are just a handful of routes passing there and I've never seen a bus stop there to allow a driver go on a break.

    The 219,from CIT to Mahon, stops there every day around 1pm so the drivers can change. The passengers on the bus, myself included, just have to sit there while the drivers have a grand chat before deciding to get us to our destination, once again, late.


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    #1865
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Always see people chancing their arm by driving down the wrong way on one way streets to access OP Street. Completely ignorant carry on..
    ofcork wrote: »
    Ban starts at 3 I was there today still a few cars on pana and also a couple drove down oliver plunkett st too.

    Barriers on Pembroke Street have been left down permanently for the last few weeks so volume of cars driving through pedestrians on Oliver Plunkett Street during day has increased. Taxis have also begun stopping outside dry cleaners again touting for business.
    In my opinion it is ruining the street but assume policy makers have their reasons.


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    #1866
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »
    richiepurgas wrote: »
    There are just a handful of routes passing there and I've never seen a bus stop there to allow a driver go on a break.

    The 219,from CIT to Mahon, stops there every day around 1pm so the drivers can change. The passengers on the bus, myself included, just have to sit there while the drivers have a grand chat before deciding to get us to our destination, once again, late.

    I've seen this type of behaviour on several routes.


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    #1867
    Mardyke
    Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Mardyke


    Why is it that Eoin English has a constant stream of "News" on this topic? It's a non story for most, bar a few whiners who won't pay their rates.

    Peej is on Twitter today too giving the Fried Chicken guy more voice. He's whinging now because Cook St was closed for the lights being switched on tonight.


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    #1868
    richiepurgas
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭richiepurgas


    Mardyke wrote: »
    Why is it that Eoin English has a constant stream of "News" on this topic? It's a non story for most, bar a few whiners who won't pay their rates.

    Peej is on Twitter today too giving the Fried Chicken guy more voice. He's whinging now because Cook St was closed for the lights being switched on tonight.

    That guy's main problem is that his end of Cook street is almost deserted since Pennys bought up most of the buildings for their expansion which hasn't even started and the buildings lie idle.


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    #1869
    Mardyke
    Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Mardyke


    richiepurgas wrote: »
    That guy's main problem is that his end of Cook street is almost deserted since Pennys bought up most of the buildings for their expansion which hasn't even started and the buildings lie idle.

    As far as I can see, there are a number of stores on that part of Cook St. (Framemaker, The Shack, shoe store, a cafe?)

    I think the guy's main problem is similar to Susan Ryan.. a business that is just not doing well and probably mainly due to the owner being stuck in the past.


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    #1870
    richiepurgas
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭richiepurgas


    Mardyke wrote: »
    As far as I can see, there are a number of stores on that part of Cook St. (Framemaker, The Shack, shoe store, a cafe?)

    I think the guy's main problem is similar to Susan Ryan.. a business that is just not doing well and probably mainly due to the owner being stuck in the past.

    The shoe store is the only place open on that side of the street. The Framemaker is unlikely to create much footfall. Street is really deserted most of the day and this has been the way for quite a while.


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    #1871
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Bad news for anyone in favour of the ban being lifted for the Christmas shopping season.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/no-reversal-of-st-patricks-street-car-ban-despite-calls-for-suspension-888266.html


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    #1872
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    Gardai refusing to release information as to whether any cars have been fined for ignoring the ban. Traffic jam of cars ignoring the ban last Sunday again.
    Gardai ignoring the lawbreakers.


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    #1873
    flexcon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Gardai refusing to release information as to whether any cars have been fined for ignoring the ban. Traffic jam of cars ignoring the ban last Sunday again.
    Gardai ignoring the lawbreakers.

    Can you direct us to the press conference or article that suggests the refused to release the info?


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    #1874
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    flexcon wrote: »
    Can you direct us to the press conference or article that suggests the refused to release the info?

    Chief Superintendent Barry McPolin said motorists caught driving in the bus lanes during the 3pm-6.30pm ban on private cars are being dealt with by way of caution.

    He was responding to questions from Senator Jerry Buttimer at a meeting of the Cork City Joint Policing Committee this week.

    Mr Buttimer asked gardaí to comment on the policing issues which have arisen

    Chief Supt McPolin said he does not have statistics for how many motorists have been fined for driving in the bus lanes

    Mr Buttimer welcomed the comments: “It’s good to see that it’s not just a garda standing on the street with a notebook. It demonstrates that the city is open for business."


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    #1875
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Chief Superintendent Barry McPolin said motorists caught driving in the bus lanes during the 3pm-6.30pm ban on private cars are being dealt with by way of caution.

    He was responding to questions from Senator Jerry Buttimer at a meeting of the Cork City Joint Policing Committee this week.
    Would you care to complete the sentence you cut short?


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    #1876
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Would you care to complete the sentence you cut short?

    Sure. They seem to be saying to that if the same guard sees the same car driving in the bus lane multiple times they could be fined. Theoretically

    Chief Superintendent Barry McPolin said motorists caught driving in the bus lanes during the 3pm-6.30pm ban on private cars are being dealt with by way of caution in the first instance but he warned that persistent offenders will face fines


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    #1877
    flexcon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭flexcon


    test


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    #1878
    flexcon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭flexcon


    flexcon wrote: »
    Can you direct us to the press conference or article that suggests the refused to release the info?
    Magnatu wrote: »
    Gardai refusing to release information as to whether any cars have been fined for ignoring the ban.

    By your own quote, this is ACTUALLY what was said

    Chief Supt McPolin said he does not have statistics for how many motorists have been fined for driving in the bus lanes

    So in your eyes if someone doesn't have the data to back something up, they are guilty as charged that they are refusing. So to not have means to refuse. Could you clarify this?

    Magnatu wrote: »
    Traffic jam of cars ignoring the ban last Sunday again.
    Gardai ignoring the lawbreakers.

    By your own quote this is ACTUALLY what was said

    Chief Superintendent Barry McPolin said motorists caught driving in the bus lanes during the 3pm-6.30pm ban on private cars are being dealt with by way of caution.

    Again, very interesting interpretation by you. The superintendent says they are dealt with, but you came out of that with the opinion that they are been ignored?

    Some weird interpretation you have. Maybe it's me, maybe it's just the way you use language to describe opinions as facts. Very strange though.


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    #1879
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,367 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Sure if they had the numbers, would we even trust them. :rolleyes:


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    #1880
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    flexcon wrote: »
    Chief Superintendent Barry McPolin said motorists caught driving in the bus lanes during the 3pm-6.30pm ban on private cars are being dealt with.

    Again, very interesting interpretation by you. The superintendent says they are dealt with, but you came out of that with the opinion that they are been ignored?

    Some weird interpretation you have.

    Take a look at the photo attached of Patrick Street during the ban. In your honest opinion are the lines of cars driving through Patrick Street being ignored or "dealt with"


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    #1881
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Sure if they had the numbers, would we even trust them. :rolleyes:

    Point is the gardai are refusing to provide the numbers. Do you not wonder why?


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    #1882
    flexcon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Take a look at the photo attached of Patrick Street during the ban. In your honest opinion are the lines of cars driving through Patrick Street being ignored or "dealt with"

    You should then be saying " At times the Gardai are not present on the street"

    End of. Then there is no one that can argue back at that. It's a factual statement.

    however you have pursued to taint as if the Gardai are NEVER there and the whole thing is a FAILURE and no is being DEALT with.

    What would you then say if I posted a photo from a few days ago showing no cars. Are the Gardai then enforcing or is it a case that people are not driving down anyway.Which is it?


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    #1883
    flexcon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Magnatu wrote: »
    Point is the gardai are refusing to provide the numbers. Do you not wonder why?

    you are making this up. Nowhere is this shown.

    They said they don't have the numbers.

    again please answer...

    So in your eyes if someone doesn't have the data to back something up, they are guilty as charged that they are refusing. So to not have means to refuse. Could you clarify this?


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    #1884
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    flexcon wrote: »
    you are making this up.
    flexcon, that’s all he does, he just makes it up.
    Adding him to the ignore list was one of the best things I did, I suggest you try it out. You’re not going to get a factual based discussion with him.


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    #1885
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Gardaí are giving out tickets by the bucket load on Pana at the moment.


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    #1886
    hufpc8w3adnk65
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Gardaí are giving out tickets by the bucket load on Pana at the moment.

    To private cars or everyone bar taxi and bus?


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    #1887
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Cars and vans in the bus lane. Also to cars parked on the street.


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    #1888
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Gardaí are giving out tickets by the bucket load on Pana at the moment.

    Some photo evidence would be helpful as the anti car ban brigade will, no doubt, claim you are making things up.


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    #1889
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Yeah I know. Some lad who was getting a ticket started recording the Garda on his phone and giving him grief and it was getting a bit tense so thought best not to take a picture.


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    #1890
    Magnatu
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Magnatu


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Gardaí are giving out tickets by the bucket load on Pana at the moment.
    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Some photo evidence would be helpful as the anti car ban brigade will, no doubt, claim you are making things up.

    If what you are saying is true it would be wonderful news. Gardai we're becoming increasingly uncomfortable with having to justify their inaction.


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    #1891
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Magnatu wrote: »
    If what you are saying is true it would be wonderful news. Gardai we're becoming increasingly uncomfortable with having to justify their inaction.

    It is true. I have no reason to lie.....


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