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  • Registered Users Posts: 34 kjgf123


    Folks,

    I've been meaning to ask this question as it's been bugging me for a long time. What was the name of the music shop on Market Street/Square? It's now the Book Market and is beside Superquinn, opposite the café/coffee shop. I recall it being coloured black with some grey. Something about "records" or "music" in the title.

    As far as I can remember it was called the Music Zone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭TOMP


    http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/kilkenny-lose-out-on-hospice-1-5003801

    Where does this leave South Tipperary Hospice movement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What street is Friends bar on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭cml387


    It's on Central Park.:)


    Well, Emmet Street actually


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭aisr1ofk43dpy5


    Could someone tell me what shop in Mitchel Street (narrow street) now stands where Playland (amusement centre) stood back in the 80's. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    Niamh's Deli.


  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    I hear George is launching his new book in the Stone House next week,don't know what he called this book, i heard it was something like " I Saw God In A Cornflake"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭aisr1ofk43dpy5


    snipey wrote: »
    Niamh's Deli.

    I think it was further up the street if memory serves me right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭tinyk68


    No. Snipey is right. It was on the corner with Dowd's lane where Niamh's is now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭aisr1ofk43dpy5


    Sorry I should have been more specific I realize now it was where Niamhs is now at a later stage, but I'm talking about the mid to late 70's, if I remember rightly it was about mid way between Niamhs and Gamestop.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭touts


    TOMP wrote: »
    http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/kilkenny-lose-out-on-hospice-1-5003801

    Where does this leave South Tipperary Hospice movement?

    I wouldn't count on any government funding for many new medical services in South Tipperary. Their policy seems to be to fund expanded services in the main cities by closing services elsewhere. Anything new that the government provides will be as a replacement for something better (e.g. a GP Primary Care Centre to replace hospital out patients services and a couple of ambulances to replace an A&E).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Sorry I should have been more specific I realize now it was where Niamhs is now at a later stage, but I'm talking about the mid to late 70's, if I remember rightly it was about mid way between Niamhs and Gamestop.

    Nope.
    I can testify that it was where Niamh's is now.
    (Misspent youth and all that)

    However,Niamhs was originally located midway up Mitchell St(beside what was Gaffneys florist)


  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    I remember all the fights down the lane,we used to go out the side door to watch,so it was definately on the lane, used to be a pub Nickey's,as in Nicky Delacato(Italian)


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    snipey wrote: »
    I hear George is launching his new book in the Stone House next week,don't know what he called this book, i heard it was something like " I Saw God In A Cornflake"

    Do they serve Shepherds Pie there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭aisr1ofk43dpy5


    snipey wrote: »
    I remember all the fights down the lane,we used to go out the side door to watch,so it was definately on the lane, used to be a pub Nickey's,as in Nicky Delacato(Italian)

    What year would you be talking about Snipey


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    What year would you be talking about Snipey

    Nicky's closed mid 1970's (ish)
    If I was pushed on it I would say that it was 1976.

    The entrance to the pub was where the kitchen entrance to Niamh's is now i.e. down the lane.
    The pub looked very like the front bar in the Coachman with different "boothes" but from memory it was very dark in there.

    Nicky (Delicato) then sold or leased the place to Gus Bonelli who opened Playland (or "Los" as everyone called it)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Nicky's closed mid 1970's (ish)
    If I was pushed on it I would say that it was 1976.

    The entrance to the pub was where the kitchen entrance to Niamh's is now i.e. down the lane.
    The pub looked very like the front bar in the Coachman with different "boothes" but from memory it was very dark in there.

    Nicky (Delicato) then sold or leased the place to Gus Bonelli who opened Playland (or "Los" as everyone called it)

    T'was after 76, 78 maybe as I remember being in there and I doubt I remember something from that young.

    Despite the amount of time I spent in there as a kid I couldn't tell you what the real name for the "the loss" was.

    Fr Kennedy gave Gus weekly abuse from the pulpit, poor Gus was demonised with people encouraged to abuse him on the street from what I remember.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    From memory that first "Casino" was located in Mitchel St. where Clinton's household shop is now located.

    The most vociferous objector was in fact a man of great integrity namely a Fine Gael member of Clonmel Corporation namely Tom Flaherty, who was also a very gifted Clonmel Bohemians soccer player. It was in fact Tom Flaherty gave the place the nick name of Las Vegas in a Corporation debate during the course of which he sought to have the place closed.

    Also as far as I remember the Pub on the corner of the lane was called Flynn's.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭LoveCoke


    Xenophile wrote: »
    From memory that first "Casino" was located in Mitchel St. where Clinton's household shop is now located.

    The most vociferous objector was in fact a man of great integrity namely a Fine Gael member of Clonmel Corporation namely Tom Flaherty, who was also a very gifted Clonmel Bohemians soccer player. It was in fact Tom Flaherty gave the place the nick name of Las Vegas in a Corporation debate during the course of which he sought to have the place closed.

    Also as far as I remember the Pub on the corner of the lane was called Flynn's.
    wasn't it where the gifts and jewells shop is or was


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭LoveCoke


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    T'was after 76, 78 maybe as I remember being in there and I doubt I remember something from that young.

    Despite the amount of time I spent in there as a kid I couldn't tell you what the real name for the "the loss" was.

    Fr Kennedy gave Gus weekly abuse from the pulpit, poor Gus was demonised with people encouraged to abuse him on the street from what I remember
    .
    give your cash to the church instead?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    RobAMerc wrote: »

    Fr Kennedy gave Gus weekly abuse from the pulpit, poor Gus was demonised with people encouraged to abuse him on the street from what I remember.

    Never heard this in all my time living in Clonmel. It is a serious allegation, it should be withdrawn.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    LoveCoke wrote: »
    wasn't it where the gifts and jewells shop is or was

    Cannot remember for sure, you maybe correct. Gifts and Jewels are gone a few years!

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Xenophile wrote: »
    From memory that first "Casino" was located in Mitchel St. where Clinton's household shop is now located.

    The most vociferous objector was in fact a man of great integrity namely a Fine Gael member of Clonmel Corporation namely Tom Flaherty, who was also a very gifted Clonmel Bohemians soccer player. It was in fact Tom Flaherty gave the place the nick name of Las Vegas in a Corporation debate during the course of which he sought to have the place closed.

    Also as far as I remember the Pub on the corner of the lane was called Flynn's.

    No !!!

    Niamh's, 1990's-2011, Restaurant
    Las Vegas, 1980's, Amusement Arcade
    Nicky’s Bar & Lounge 1970’s, Public House
    Michael Strappe, 1945, Wine & Spirits
    M Callaghan, 1930, Grocery/Spirits
    Margaret Phelan, 1901- 1911, Grocery
    Michael Phelan, c. 1900, Public House
    Richard Guiton, 1846, Grocery
    James Newell, 1846, Hatter

    and Clintons homeware

    Clintons, 2000's, Fabric Shop
    Gifts & Jewels, 1980's, Fancy Goods
    Miss Prendergast, 1930, Grocery/Spirits
    Margaret Ryan, 1911, Publican
    Robert Mercer, 1846, Bakery

    Flynn's never had a pub adjacent to Dowd's Lane.

    Tom Flaherty(the soccer player) was a teacher and he taught me.
    A genius of a guy.
    Never knew he was a Fine Gael Councillor


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Never heard this in all my time living in Clonmel. It is a serious allegation, it should be withdrawn.

    In all your time in Clonmel you must never have gone to a mass celebrated by Fr Kennedy when Las was on the go !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭LoveCoke


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Cannot remember for sure, you maybe correct. Gifts and Jewels are gone a few years!
    gifts and jewels was beside the clothes shop Barrats? Is that where Clintons small shop is now/


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Nicky's closed mid 1970's (ish)
    If I was pushed on it I would say that it was 1976.

    The entrance to the pub was where the kitchen entrance to Niamh's is now i.e. down the lane.
    The pub looked very like the front bar in the Coachman with different "boothes" but from memory it was very dark in there.

    Nicky (Delicato) then sold or leased the place to Gus Bonelli who opened Playland (or "Los" as everyone called it)
    Do you remember Joss Regan(rip)that used to go into Los,Gus had a 'wanted dead or alive' poster up for him:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Vizzy wrote: »

    Tom Flaherty(the soccer player) was a teacher and he taught me.
    A genius of a guy.
    Never knew he was a Fine Gael Councillor

    Whatever about the accuracy of the rest of your post, and I do not claim to have accurate information either, maybe someone has.

    Different Tom Flaherty, the man I refer to went to England shortly after the events referred to. He was a brother of the late Cyril Flaherty (also a very talented soccer player) who served as a Labour Councilor on the Corpo not so many years ago.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    LoveCoke wrote: »
    wasn't it where the gifts and jewells shop is or was

    I think so!

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭aisr1ofk43dpy5


    Yes where gifts and jewels used be sounds about right im certain it wasn't where niamhs is now in 75/76. I was in there the night of the gas explosion in Sullivans shop (now Sullivan insurance) and i know it wasn't across the street.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Xenophile wrote: »
    From memory that first "Casino" was located in Mitchel St. where Clinton's household shop is now located.

    Also as far as I remember the Pub on the corner of the lane was called Flynn's.

    "The Los" was where Niamh's is now.
    the pub was not called Flynns. It was owned as rightly posted by Nicky Delicato
    Xenophile wrote: »
    Never heard this in all my time living in Clonmel. It is a serious allegation, it should be withdrawn.

    I'm 40 years in Clonmel and remember Trendy Kennedy well.
    He actively tried to run Gus out of business and voiced his objections towards "the Los" from the pulpit, I won't withdraw that.
    Gus was abused on the street by folk incited by Fr Kennedy's campaign, of that I have no doubt.


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