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Does Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?

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  • #1102
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    mad muffin wrote: »
    You know what I’m talking about. They want them all gone. Every single one of them. They can’t dtand the sight of them.


    A blood fued that goes back to the time Moses.

    Just seems to me that you're actually advocating genocide here.


  • #1103
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I’ve always said… let Israel open up gaza and give back the lands in the West Bank. When all hell breaks loose from there. They will be able to once and for all wipe them off the face of the earth.


    Just as a matter of interest - why are you advocating genocide?


  • #1104
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Not me. I’m
    Not their spokesperson.


  • #1105
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,204 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Why did FG oppose this?


  • #1106
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Did BDS release a statement on the behavior of Simone O’Broin and her drunken racist rant on board a flight that led to her arrest?


  • #1107
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    markodaly wrote: »
    Did BDS release a statement on the behavior of Simone O’Broin and her drunken racist rant on board a flight that led to her arrest?

    Why not send them a strongly worded email?


  • #1108
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    markodaly wrote: »
    Did BDS release a statement on the behavior of Simone O’Broin and her drunken racist rant on board a flight that led to her arrest?

    why would they? it's irrelevant to the movement and it's work. it's a matter between her and the relevant authorities.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #1109
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Seth Yellow Cobra wrote: »
    After today's massacre, over 55 dead so far. Absolutely no regard for Palestinians basic human rights. What is the end game? Tomorrow marks the 70th anniversary of the Nakba and things are only getting worse. Events in the occupied territories are worse than anything endured in apartheid south Africa. They need support from the ground up from all people as the political will is not there.

    Worse than South Africa? How ?


  • #1110
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    What about the other oppressed people of the world? The rathigans in Burma? Muslims in China? Held in internment camps? Because they are Muslims? Russians in the Baltic republic's? War in yemem
    The Congo?? The Kurds
    Anti semitism !
    That's not to deny the Palestinians don't have a case but God almighty their fellow believers could have easily granted them citizenship if it wasn't a handy distraction from the rampant corruption in their own lands.


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  • #1111
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    What about the other oppressed people of the world? The rathigans in Burma? Muslims in China? Held in internment camps? Because they are Muslims? Russians in the Baltic republic's? War in yemem
    The Congo?? The Kurds

    what about this, what about that. what about. whataboutery.
    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Anti semitism !

    nope. criticising israel's criminality is not anti semitism.
    Bobtheman wrote: »
    That's not to deny the Palestinians don't have a case but God almighty their fellow believers could have easily granted them citizenship if it wasn't a handy distraction from the rampant corruption in their own lands.

    the palestinians are living on their land. the land where they are entitled to live, yet israel keeps stealing slowly but surely.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #1112
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    end of the road wrote: »
    what about this, what about that. what about. whataboutery.



    nope. criticising israel's criminality is not anti semitism.



    the palestinians are living on their land. the land where they are entitled to live, yet israel keeps stealing slowly but surely.

    Sure this is happening the world over ? Certainly protest away but your narrow world view criticism is a sign of anti semitism. Can you point to other campaigns you are involved in ?


  • #1113
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    end of the road wrote: »
    what about this, what about that. what about. whataboutery.



    nope. criticising israel's criminality is not anti semitism.



    the palestinians are living on their land. the land where they are entitled to live, yet israel keeps stealing slowly but surely.

    I do agree that Israel should stop building in the west bank. I do wonder what the end game is? Two state solution? The refugees outside Gaza and west bank are not going to get aright of return. Not realistic and hasnt happened anywhere else in the world after 70 odd years.
    Yes I'm aware the Jews came back but they got the western powers on board . No way any world power will back a right of return for the Palestinians. Given the booting out of people in their own lands


  • #1114
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Sure this is happening the world over ? Certainly protest away but your narrow world view criticism is a sign of anti semitism. Can you point to other campaigns you are involved in ?


    no, no it really isn't a sign of anti semitism. the old "anti semitism" card doesn't work any more. it hasn't worked for years
    Bobtheman wrote: »
    I do agree that Israel should stop building in the west bank. I do wonder what the end game is? Two state solution? The refugees outside Gaza and west bank are not going to get aright of return. Not realistic and hasnt happened anywhere else in the world after 70 odd years.
    Yes I'm aware the Jews came back but they got the western powers on board . No way any world power will back a right of return for the Palestinians. Given the booting out of people in their own lands

    they won't back it now, but they may back such in the future. things do change.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #1115
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    end of the road wrote: »
    why would they? it's irrelevant to the movement and it's work. it's a matter between her and the relevant authorities.

    You think its OK for a high profile member of the BDS leadership to conduct themselves in that way? If anyone in a high profile position conducted themselves in that way, they would be out of a job. I guess BDS are different.

    To be honest I am not surprised BDS have had nothing to say about it, hoping of course the incident would just go away. Of course, such actions say more about BDS themselves.

    I do find the whole situation hilarious though, in a Kafkaesque way.


  • #1116
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    You think its OK for a high profile member of the BDS leadership to conduct themselves in that way? If anyone in a high profile position conducted themselves in that way, they would be out of a job. I guess BDS are different.

    To be honest I am not surprised BDS have had nothing to say about it, hoping of course the incident would just go away. Of course, such actions say more about BDS themselves.

    I do find the whole situation hilarious though, in a Kafkaesque way.

    High profile?

    You'd never heard of the woman before she threw a wobbler on a plane. Stop talking sh*te, absolute spoofer.

    When Israeli cabinet ministers are calling for genocide in Gaza where are you with your faux outrage?


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  • #1117
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    markodaly wrote: »
    You think its OK for a high profile member of the BDS leadership to conduct themselves in that way? If anyone in a high profile position conducted themselves in that way, they would be out of a job. I guess BDS are different.

    no, i don't. however her behaviour makes no difference to the movement as a whole. her behaviour is a matter for the authorities

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #1118
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    High profile?

    You'd never heard of the woman before she threw a wobbler on a plane. Stop talking sh*te, absolute spoofer.

    When Israeli cabinet ministers are calling for genocide in Gaza where are you with your faux outrage?

    Why does she still work for BDS? They have been awfully quiet on the matter in fairness.


  • #1119
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    end of the road wrote: »
    no, i don't. however her behaviour makes no difference to the movement as a whole. her behaviour is a matter for the authorities

    Her behavior is not a matter for her employer?


  • #1120
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    Why does she still work for BDS? They have been awfully quiet on the matter in fairness.

    You seem to think "BDS" is a company or something.

    You clearly haven't a notion what the **** you're dribbling about.


  • #1121
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    Her behavior is not a matter for her employer?

    Eh, who's employing her?

    "BDS"?

    How does that work? Who's signing her paycheques? "Mr BDS" of "BDS enterprises"?

    Absolutely clueless.


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  • #1122
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    You seem to think "BDS" is a company or something.

    You clearly haven't a notion what the **** you're dribbling about.

    She is a lawyer who is affiliated with BDS. Unless I am told she does the work pro-bono, that would be classed as employment.

    Do you not find it odd at all the anyone in BDS has not released a statement about her. Even a simple, 'we are severing our relationship with Simone O'Broin due to racist and abusive language aimed at airline staff on an Air India flight'.

    Then, she is on her own. However, we are led to believe that they (BDS) condone this behavior.


  • #1123
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Eh, who's employing her?

    "BDS"?

    How does that work? Who's signing her paycheques? "Mr BDS" of "BDS enterprises"?

    Absolutely clueless.

    You are being deliberately facetious as a way to shy away from the debate.

    I am surprised to know that BDS pays no one and that every single person, affiliate and company they hire does it all for free. Nice to know. ROFL


  • #1124
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    She is a lawyer who is affiliated with BDS. Unless I am told she does the work pro-bono, that would be classed as employment.

    Do you not find it odd at all the anyone in BDS has not released a statement about her. Even a simple, 'we are severing our relationship with Simone O'Broin due to racist and abusive language aimed at airline staff on an Air India flight'.

    Then, she is on her own. However, we are led to believe that they (BDS) condone this behavior.

    You sure do project a lot of idiocy into something you don't actually know the facts of or understand.

    Again, who's employing her? What has she worked on, and for who?
    Who exactly do you expect to issue a statement about this?

    You're basically making up some mental scenario in your head and then acting like it's fact.


  • #1125
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    You are being deliberately facetious as a way to shy away from the debate.

    I am surprised to know that BDS pays no one and that every single person, affiliate and company they hire does it all for free. Nice to know. ROFL

    You really don't understand what the BDS movement is, do you?


    How could you be so invested in opposing something when you don't even know what it is?


  • #1126
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    You sure do project a lot of idiocy into something you don't actually know the facts of or understand.

    Again, who's employing her? What has she worked on, and for who?
    Who exactly do you expect to issue a statement about this?

    You're basically making up some mental scenario in your head and then acting like it's fact.

    BDS are unable to release a press statement or even a facebook page regarding this incident?

    They are more useless than I thought.


  • #1127
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    BDS are unable to release a press statement or even a facebook page regarding this incident?

    They are more useless than I thought.

    You really don't know what BDS is, this is actually adorable. You're an angry little uninformed man and no clue with he's talking about, aren't you?

    D'aaaww I just want to boop you on your silly lil head you little sillypants.



    So yeah... Who should issue this statement exactly? What facebook page? Who has she worked for? What has she worked on?


    I bet you can't answer those questions lil mister sillybum.


  • #1128
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    You really don't understand what the BDS movement is, do you?


    How could you be so invested in opposing something when you don't even know what it is?

    Yes, its a movement who have no need for money or donations as no one is ever paid for the work they do, besides the fact they have a big Donate button on their page. Simone O'Broin was obviously a volunteer who never got a cent from any of her 'human rights' work from BADIL or BDS. LOLZ

    Need I remind you, this is the lady you are defending.
    “I work for all you f***ing people… ‘The f***ing Rohingyas, the f***ing people of all Asia, for you, I’m an international criminal lawyer. Don’t get any money for it by the way. But you won’t give me a f***ing glass of wine, is that correct?”

    She then called a female crew member “Indian f***ing money grabbing bastard,” shouting that she will “turn you inside f***ing out, you f***ing stupid c***s.”


  • #1129
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

    So yeah... Who should issue this statement exactly? What facebook page? Who has she worked for? What has she worked on?


    She said it herself.
    was filmed by fellow passengers telling flight attendants that she is a “leader of the f***ing boycott movement,” clapping in the air in front of a crew member. She added: “If I say boycott f***ing Air India, done. Do you understand me? You can’t give me a wee bottle of wine?”

    A charming lady. You would get on well with her I think.


  • #1130
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    markodaly wrote: »
    She said it herself.



    A charming lady. You would get on well with her I think.

    Oh, she said it?

    That settles that then, she's a leader.

    She wrote two reports for BADIL which were published 6 years ago, but hasn't worked for them since 2011, and odds are she wasn't paid btw.

    Does that make her "a leader" of BDS?


  • #1131
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Let's ignore multiple human rights abuses the world over and instead focus on Israel soley How many other threads on these other abuses =none.


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  • #1132
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    You are being deliberately facetious as a way to shy away from the debate.

    I am surprised to know that BDS pays no one and that every single person, affiliate and company they hire does it all for free. Nice to know. ROFL




    Are you saying that because one person did something wrong the whole enterprise is kaput?


  • #1133
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Let's ignore multiple human rights abuses the world over and instead focus on Israel soley How many other threads on these other abuses =none.


    Except that one on Yemen

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057893657


    And that one on pakistan

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057925784


    O yeah, that one about Saudi

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108382689


    and that one about Russia
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108718323


    And the Syrian one.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057860141



    And whatever few are lurking in the politics forum.


  • #1134
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Let's ignore multiple human rights abuses the world over and instead focus on Israel soley How many other threads on these other abuses =none.
    This is a thread about Israel and Palestine. There are plenty of others about stuff from all around the world.

    Have a think. Look at the thread title.


  • #1135
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,139 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Let's ignore multiple human rights abuses the world over and instead focus on Israel soley How many other threads on these other abuses =none.


    i suspect the reason why israel gets more comment is due to their claims of being a "western style democracy" or "the only democracy in the middle east" yet they behave the complete opposite of a democracy.
    there are actually threads on a lot of the other conflicts you mention.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #1136
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    end of the road wrote: »
    i suspect the reason why israel gets more comment is due to their claims of being a "western style democracy" or "the only democracy in the middle east" yet they behave the complete opposite of a democracy.
    there are actually threads on a lot of the other conflicts you mention.

    Interesting point. Yes Israel is the only democracy middle East bar Iraq but in a lot of respects the Jews are a middle eastern people if they treat their enemies like pure dirt. Oh hang on what about the USA and the Indians? Britain and the Irish famine? Democracies ! Let's face facts boys there is a crazy amount of attention paid to this issue beyond all relevance.


  • #1137
    Sean.3516
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    As far as I’m concerned Israel should just annex Palestine. It’s a tiny spit of land run by anti Semitic terrorists who have never been able to tolerate a Jewish country living next to them. They have refused offers to have their own state time and time again.

    They don’t deserve a state. Annex Palestine. Show them what it’s like to live in a real country and they’ll never go back


  • #1138
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,204 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sean.3516 wrote: »
    As far as I’m concerned Israel should just annex Palestine. It’s a tiny spit of land run by anti Semitic terrorists who have never been able to tolerate a Jewish country living next to them. They have refused offers to have their own state time and time again.

    They don’t deserve a state. Annex Palestine. Show them what it’s like to live in a real country and they’ll never go back

    Ha ha.
    1 out of 10.
    You could really do better. That standard of trolling is an all time low.


  • #1139
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Sean.3516 wrote: »
    As far as I’m concerned Israel should just annex Palestine. It’s a tiny spit of land run by anti Semitic terrorists who have never been able to tolerate a Jewish country living next to them. They have refused offers to have their own state time and time again.

    They don’t deserve a state. Annex Palestine. Show them what it’s like to live in a real country and they’ll never go back


    Nearly every party in the knessit pledges to 'maintain the majority'. In plain language this means keeping a Jewish majority in the Israeli state, therefore no annexation will take place that would bring large numbers of Palestinians into israel proper, and certainly no handing out citizenship for numbers as large as the population of the West Bank.



    Where annexation has taken place (Arab East Jerusalem), the Palestinians are not considered Israeli citizens and face discrimination on a daily basis.

    https://www.btselem.org/jerusalem


  • #1140
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Interesting point. Yes Israel is the only democracy middle East bar Iraq but in a lot of respects the Jews are a middle eastern people if they treat their enemies like pure dirt. Oh hang on what about the USA and the Indians? Britain and the Irish famine? Democracies ! Let's face facts boys there is a crazy amount of attention paid to this issue beyond all relevance.

    Israeli operatives used fake Irish passports. There's a bill hopefully passing banning products from Israel. Also the thread title, reasons enough. If you don't want to see comment on the murderous apartheid of the Israel regime, maybe don't look in a thread on it.


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  • #1141
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Interesting point. Yes Israel is the only democracy middle East bar Iraq but in a lot of respects the Jews are a middle eastern people if they treat their enemies like pure dirt. Oh hang on what about the USA and the Indians? Britain and the Irish famine? Democracies ! Let's face facts boys there is a crazy amount of attention paid to this issue beyond all relevance.


    At the most simple level - there is no action taken against israel at the UNSC level, despite the occupation and colonisation being ongoing for 50 years. As long as that continues it will - obviously - be a centre of protest.


  • #1142
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Disturbing stories today from that region. One is that the Israeli government is refusing to allow the UN observers to visit Palestinian areas. A second is that Israeli settler organisations are planning legal challenges to the right of residency of Arabs in 200 homes in East Jerusalem.

    I recall when the Milosevic regime in Serbia was stalling on allowing UN observers into Kosovo in 1999, and I recall what that that was a harbinger of.


  • #1143
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Ozymandius2011 wrote: »
    Disturbing stories today from that region. One is that the Israeli government is refusing to allow the UN observers to visit Palestinian areas. A second is that Israeli settler organisations are planning legal challenges to the right of residency of Arabs in 200 homes in East Jerusalem.

    I recall when the Milosevic regime in Serbia was stalling on allowing UN observers into Kosovo in 1999, and I recall what that that was a harbinger of.




    Unfortunately Israel will continue its program of slow drip ethnic cleansing with no consequences.


  • #1144
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Ozymandius2011 wrote: »
    Disturbing stories today from that region. One is that the Israeli government is refusing to allow the UN observers to visit Palestinian areas. A second is that Israeli settler organisations are planning legal challenges to the right of residency of Arabs in 200 homes in East Jerusalem.

    I recall when the Milosevic regime in Serbia was stalling on allowing UN observers into Kosovo in 1999, and I recall what that that was a harbinger of.


    Given the behaviour of the Israeli courts in the West Bank, (which by rights they should have no authority over) they have reason for optimism.

    https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201902_fake_justice


  • #1145
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Given the behaviour of the Israeli courts in the West Bank, (which by rights they should have no authority over) they have reason for optimism.

    https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201902_fake_justice
    Part of the problem is that the Israeli Supreme Court judges are not there for life. They are term limited, which allows political stooges to be placed on the court.


  • #1146
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,123 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Problem is everyone knows if the Palestinians get the right of return, that the Jews will be wiped out after.

    The Israelis are pricks though as well.


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  • #1147
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    The normally efficient Israelites are doing quite a poor job of wiping them out.


  • #1148
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Danzy wrote: »
    Problem is everyone knows if the Palestinians get the right of return, that the Jews will be wiped out after.

    The Israelis are pricks though as well.


    The "right of return" they ask for in talks is not the blank demand it used to be, by any measure -



    "..........they were reported to be willing to discuss limiting the number of Palestinian refugees returning to 100,000 over 10 years."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-12263095


    "Palestinian negotiators privately agreed that only 10,000 refugees and their families, out of a total refugee population exceeding 5 million, could return to Israel as part of a peace settlement, leaked confidential documents reveal. PLO leaders also accepted Israel's demand to define itself as an explicitly Jewish state, in sharp contrast to their public position."
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/24/papers-palestinian-leaders-refugees-fight


  • #1149
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    The normally efficient Israelites are doing quite a poor job of wiping them out.




    It's about land primarily. They want territory sans the Palestinians on it, thus the slow drip ethnic cleansing.


  • #1150
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,862 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It's about land primarily. They want territory sans the Palestinians on it, thus the slow drip ethnic cleansing.

    So it's not genocide or ethnic cleansing. Glad we cleared that up.


  • #1151
    Earthsnotflat
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Earthsnotflat


    How do you negotiate with someone who wants to wipe you out off the surface of the earth, who treats murder of innocent civilians as noble thing and rewards family of terrorists with lifetime financial support...


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