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Does Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?

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    #602
    zapitastas
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    Seth Yellow Cobra wrote: »
    Maybe the protesters in the bogside on bloody Sunday when British soldiers shot 28 unarmed civilians during a peaceful protest march deserved it as well by your logic

    Also check some the footage coming out of Gaza, they were just shooting anyone, anywhere
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1962330673786391&id=233417303344412

    Since protests began on March 30, Israeli forces have killed 106 Palestinians, including 15 children. More than 12,000 were injured, at least 3,500 by live ammunition

    That footage is pretty damning and pretty shocking. Completely indiscriminate shooting into the protesters. That is even worse than I had pictured it to be


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    #603
    weldoninhio
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    NKante wrote: »
    Could you show me the dead kids?

    Is it that 8 month old that's since been proven to be propaganda?


    Or 16 year old member of Islamic Jihad in uniform?

    Where has it proven to be propaganda. I've searched there in google and can't find anything discrediting it.


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    #604
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    zapitastas wrote: »
    That footage is pretty damning and pretty shocking. Completely indiscriminate shooting into the protesters. That is even worse than I had pictured it to be

    Have a listen to the first part of last night's late debate on rte radio one. A report from a jurno who was on the ground at the protest.


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    #605
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    zapitastas wrote: »
    That footage is pretty damning and pretty shocking. Completely indiscriminate shooting into the protesters. That is even worse than I had pictured it to be
    Cold blooded murder in anyone's language.


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    #606
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    zapitastas wrote: »
    That footage is pretty damning and pretty shocking. Completely indiscriminate shooting into the protesters. That is even worse than I had pictured it to be

    Depending where you are in the OT, its a random series of abuse, curfew, violence and humiliation. And a lot of queing up for the privilege.
    https://www.btselem.org/topic/routine_founded_on_violence

    https://www.yesh-din.org/en/

    http://rhr.org.il/eng/2018/05/safe-passage-palestinian-children-overview-child-testimonies/


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    #607
    CruelCoin
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Stand up to us and we'll kill you..
    Every freedom and resistance fighter in history was wrong and stupid then according to you

    No. That's an idiotic extrapolation to make.

    "Don't touch the plate, it's hot", then the dumbass at the table slaps their hand down on it and gets burnt.

    Well no **** sherlock!

    It's so stupid when people act all surprised and outraged when the warned about thing happens.


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    #608
    CruelCoin
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    If the Palestinians organised a “Thanks for Ethincly Cleansing Us” march, the Israelis would still be making up excuses for slaughtering them.

    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.


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    #609
    weldoninhio
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    No. That's an idiotic extrapolation to make.

    "Don't touch the plate, it's hot", then the dumbass at the table slaps their hand down on it and gets burnt.

    Well no **** sherlock!

    It's so stupid when people act all surprised and outraged when the warned about thing happens.

    So if someone down the pub told you, "If i see you outside your house again after tonight i'm gonna murder you", it'd be your fault you were murdered after leaving your house the next day??


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    #610
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,080 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Was this before or after the entire neighbourhood tried and failed to wipe off Israel?
    Israel won, and now has Gaza and the Golan heights as annexed prizes.

    Whats the confusion here?

    Israel withdrew from Gaza, taking its colonists with it,back in 2005.

    There is no such thing as "annexed prizes" in international law. Aqquisition of territory by force is explicitly forbidden.


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    #611
    Odhinn
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.

    The ethnic cleansing of Arab East Jerusalem
    https://www.btselem.org/jerusalem

    Land theft in the West Bank
    https://www.btselem.org/topic/communities_facing_expulsion
    https://www.btselem.org/topic/planning_and_building


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    #612
    Zebra3
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.

    It’s funny the Israelis slaughtering Palestinians?

    Showing your true colors.

    You wouldn’t be bothered then if somebody murdered 5 of your family so long as the next generation gave birth to a higher numbers of kids?

    That’d be all right?


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    #613
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.

    ethnic cleansing
    noun
    the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another.


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    #614
    Captain Obvious
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.


    So your argument is that they aren't killing them fast enough to be considered ethnic cleansing?


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    #615
    Frankincense
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    Israelis have dehumanised Palestinians in order to be able to murder them with impunity just as the Nazis dehumanised them for the same reason...

    It's the very sickest of sick ironies!

    And anyone who supports this israeli-engineered Holocaust is the lowest of low scum!


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    #616
    riffmongous
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    No. That's an idiotic extrapolation to make.

    "Don't touch the plate, it's hot", then the dumbass at the table slaps their hand down on it and gets burnt.

    Well no **** sherlock!

    It's so stupid when people act all surprised and outraged when the warned about thing happens.

    More like if you put your hand on the plate we'll turn it on and burn you. There is quite the difference there

    And of course you totally ignored the moral points of justified resistance with your dumb comparison


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    #617
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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's funny how people bleat on about genocide and ethnic cleansing, when the palestinian population is booming.

    The babies are literally cartwheeling out, yet somehow there's a "cleanse" going on.

    Some serious mental gymnastics going on.

    Ethnic cleansing involves the forced moving of a population from an area and has little to do with the growth or otherwise of that population. With the greatest of respect to you, your post is one of the more ignorant contributions to the thread. Would you make a similar remark about the Jewish population crammed into the Warsaw ghetto in 1943?


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    #618
    zom
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    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    I would hope the Irish defence forces would shoot dead any person or groups who would try to cross our border with criminal intent.

    Reported for hate speech. If you don't like democracy here in Ireland go to Israel and live there...


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    #619
    NKante
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Where has it proven to be propaganda. I've searched there in google and can't find anything discrediting it.

    The palestinian doctor has said the baby died of a pre-existing condition and the parents said the baby ended up at the riot "by mistake".
    Also on Tuesday, Gaza health officials cast doubt on initial claims that a nine-month-old baby died from Israeli tear gas fired during mass protests on the Gaza border with Israel.

    A doctor said Tuesday that the baby, Layla Ghandour, had a pre-existing medical condition and that he did not believe her death was caused by tear gas. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to disclose medical information to the media.

    Layla’s family claimed Tuesday that the baby had ended up in the area of the protest as a result of a mix-up. The Gaza Health Ministry initially counted her among several dozen Palestinians killed Monday.


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    #620
    NKante
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    Zebra3 wrote: »

    Israel is obsessed with war against Palestine.

    Remind me who started these wars?

    Bit awkward that for you. Remind me who wanted to carry out a second Holocaust of the Jewish people literally 3 years after the first?

    Remind me who was allied with Hitler and to this day are aligned with fascist views?

    That's some allies the Irish have picked. Always on the wrong side of history, of course. :eek:


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    #621
    Franz Von Peppercorn
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    NKante wrote: »
    Remind me who started these wars?

    Bit awkward that for you. Remind me who wanted to carry out a second Holocaust of the Jewish people literally 3 years after the first?

    Remind me who was allied with Hitler and to this day are aligned with fascist views?

    That's some allies the Irish have picked. Always on the wrong side of history, of course. :eek:

    Lol “the Irish”. Irish site, mate. If you don’t like “the Irish” there’s the door.


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    Franz Von Peppercorn
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    zom wrote: »
    Reported for hate speech. If you don't like democracy here in Ireland go to Israel and live there...

    I don’t think he’d get citizenship.


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    #623
    wes
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    NKante wrote: »
    The palestinian doctor has said the baby died of a pre-existing condition and the parents said the baby ended up at the riot "by mistake".

    There protests not riots. More propaganda from you.


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    #624
    riffmongous
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ethnic cleansing involves the forced moving of a population from an area and has little to do with the growth or otherwise of that population. With the greatest of respect to you, your post is one of the more ignorant contributions to the thread. Would you make a similar remark about the Jewish population crammed into the Warsaw ghetto in 1943?
    Hey if they had resisted they would have deserved Darwin awards apparently


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    #625
    tayto lover
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    NKante wrote: »
    The palestinian doctor has said the baby died of a pre-existing condition and the parents said the baby ended up at the riot "by mistake".
    No the baby died because of the IDF actions.


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    #626
    Zebra3
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    NKante wrote: »
    Remind me who started these wars?

    Bit awkward that for you. Remind me who wanted to carry out a second Holocaust of the Jewish people literally 3 years after the first?

    Remind me who was allied with Hitler and to this day are aligned with fascist views?

    That's some allies the Irish have picked. Always on the wrong side of history, of course. :eek:

    I’ll remind you so. The European colonialists (Zionists) started the first war on the Palestinians and ethnicity cleansed 750,000 of them from what became Israel, a settler state built on top of Palestine.

    Bit awkward that for you.

    The Zionists also colluded with Nazi Germany (see the Transfer Agreement) and the Israelis to this day hold very similar views to 1930s/1940s fascists. Supremacist, ethnic cleansing of those deemed to be racially inferior, ridiculous historical claims on other people's lands.


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    #627
    Captain Obvious
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    NKante wrote: »
    The palestinian doctor has said the baby died of a pre-existing condition and the parents said the baby ended up at the riot "by mistake".


    An anonymous Palestinian doctor.


    NKante wrote: »
    Remind me who started these wars?

    Bit awkward that for you. Remind me who wanted to carry out a second Holocaust of the Jewish people literally 3 years after the first?

    Remind me who was allied with Hitler and to this day are aligned with fascist views?

    That's some allies the Irish have picked. Always on the wrong side of history, of course. :eek:


    Oh I think we'll be safe enough on the not murdering innocents side of history. I'd love to know what excuse there is for the non-Hamas murders. Bad shots, mistaken identity or just indiscriminate fire? Which do you think it was? How many civilians do you consider too much colateral damage. Do you work on a percentage or what?

    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    I don’t think he’d get citizenship.


    They make their own Irish passports remember.


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    #628
    Atoms for Peace
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    zom wrote: »
    Reported for hate speech. If you don't like democracy here in Ireland go to Israel and live there...

    :confused:

    "As George Orwell pointed out, people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."


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    #629
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
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    Instead of going round in circles debating with the 3 hasbara trolls, maybe people should block them and we could discuss things that can be done. Things like BDS, messaging Coveney, pushing for a boycott of EuroVision 2019 (ApartheidVision) etc etc etc these trolls keep you focused on wasting energy on them


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    #630
    biko
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    Do Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?
    No

    Do the Palestinians want to wipe out Israel?
    Yes


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    #631
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,863 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    biko wrote: »
    Do Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?
    No

    Do the Palestinians want to wipe out Israel?
    Yes

    Do Palestinians want back their stolen land upon which the colonial settler apartheid state of Israel is built upon?

    Yes.


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