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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    godtabh wrote: »
    Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?
    not since 2003, if a quick google can be trusted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭sbkenn


    Red cedar or Larch. Cedar MAY upset the rabbits, but unlikely. It has it's own natural insecticide and atni bacterial. Larch is a very common timber for boat building, due to it's rot resistance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    godtabh wrote: »
    Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?




    Regardless of how its treated, I'd be very reluctant to bury any timber treated with poison in my soil.
    Naturally durable timbers of course are also poisonous, its the extractives deposited by the tree in the heartwood that are responsible, however these poisons are naturally produced and do not leach from the timber into the soil whilst pressure treatment chemicals can leach out.


    tim


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Larch would be ideal. You want nice red heartwood planks. Very durable without nasty chemical treatment.
    I am sawing larch at home at the moment and could supply you with a few planks if you'd like.
    Tim

    I appreciate the offer but other than my OP I haven't given it to much thought so maybe premature!

    I will send you a PM


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    so, did anyone harvest any windfall?
    i got two chunks from a tree down near the house - one is the rootplate though, and i suspect is too rotten for anything but the stove.
    the other one is a decent sized three way crotch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭mobfromcork


    Not much down around my way as far as I can see (Carlow). Cut and split a nice load of oak, blackthorn, alder and willow over the last few weeks though. Local farmer was clearing back some thick hedges and said I could help myself to whatever was down (mainly alder and willow with some ash) and got oak from father in law.
    Put away a nice bit for next year or the year after.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i need to figure out how to divide this up - my lathe has a maximum capacity of 12" diameter - on the nearer piece, the central section is 15" across the wider section of that main cut. it's two foot across.

    461693.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I got this lump of wood in the recent storm.
    I don't know what it is but it very tough to cut, but I'm thinking it might be a bit rotten due to white patch.
    Can anyone tell me what wood it is and what could I do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    Phil.x wrote: »
    I got this lump of wood in the recent storm.
    I don't know what it is but it very tough to cut, but I'm thinking it might be a bit rotten due to white patch.
    Can anyone tell me what wood it is and what could I do with it.

    Its spalted beech. The white area is fungal growth which infected the tree while it was still living. Some people find it attractive and turn bowls from it. Its hard to work as it tends to disintegrate no matter what you do with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    So after lots of sanding and a drop of Danish oil, this is what I've got. Basic due to limited amount of wood working tools and skill.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 boomer310


    Beautiful..colour ...would have been interested in seeing planned to


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 mclovin442


    Can anyone tell me where I might find a live edge slab for a table project I want to start for the darker/more miserable months!! Small bit of experience in woodwork but wouldn't have a clue about buying for a project like this

    Looking for oak/maple/something with a bit of character. I want to try my hand at a river table so would need a nice edge. Dimensions would probably be 1200mm X 700mm.

    Would appreciate if anyone can give me a rough idea about what I'd pay for the above of any advice on the project itself


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Robbair


    mclovin442 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me where I might find a live edge slab for a table project I want to start for the darker/more miserable months!! Small bit of experience in woodwork but wouldn't have a clue about buying for a project like this

    Looking for oak/maple/something with a bit of character. I want to try my hand at a river table so would need a nice edge. Dimensions would probably be 1200mm X 700mm.

    Would appreciate if anyone can give me a rough idea about what I'd pay for the above of any advice on the project itself

    No idea where to find a nice board at the moment I am afraid, but plenty of inspiration on Instructables for that type of project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    mclovin442 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me where I might find a live edge slab for a table project I want to start for the darker/more miserable months!! Small bit of experience in woodwork but wouldn't have a clue about buying for a project like this

    Looking for oak/maple/something with a bit of character. I want to try my hand at a river table so would need a nice edge. Dimensions would probably be 1200mm X 700mm.

    Would appreciate if anyone can give me a rough idea about what I'd pay for the above of any advice on the project itself

    What thickness plank do you want


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭chillyspoon


    Hi all,

    I'm looking for suppliers in the east coast - preferably Wicklow - that sell melamine veneered chip/mdf/ply directly to the public (i.e. they'll sell to non-trade) and even better if they do half sheets - any ideas?

    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Don't know anyone in wicklow, but try Woodworkers, Noyeks, Panel Depot, all in Dublin


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 mclovin442


    What thickness plank do you want

    I was hoping to get a hold of something 40-50mm thick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 mclovin442


    Robbair wrote: »
    No idea where to find a nice board at the moment I am afraid, but plenty of inspiration on Instructables for that type of project.

    Thanks, appreciate the tip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Rolllo


    joe90p wrote: »
    Hi All

    Living in Galway City, Just started woodworking and following along with a Paul Sellers workbench build video.

    I am having some trouble sourcing the larger pieces of timber e.g 70x90mm for legs. So far I have got pieces from B and Q.

    Lokking for advice on
    * Cost effective options for getting larger pieces of timber.
    * transporting timber.
    Try the builder's suppliers, there's a few around Galway, there's one in Moneenageisha and one in Ballybrit off the top of my head. They usually have timber in dimensions you dont get from woodies and B&Q. Not sure if they're the same crowd running it anymore but I built a bench and a bed a few years ago and got the bigger pieces from the place in Moneenageisha, they also arranged for delivery for a fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    mclovin442 wrote: »
    I was hoping to get a hold of something 40-50mm thick.

    Try Kiln Dried Hardwoods near Greystones , or Done Deal / Adverts


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Alex Nuzum


    Hi there!

    I'm doing construction studies for my leaving cert.
    I was wonder if the anybody in Leinster (preferably in or around Arklow) had any nice wood I could buy? I would be willing to pay up to €50 and/or trade some wood I have out in the shed that wasn't suitable for the project.

    Here's the sort of thing I'm looking for:

    https: //imgur dot com/hBwAY7b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    Alex Nuzum wrote: »
    Hi there!

    I'm doing construction studies for my leaving cert.
    I was wonder if the anybody in Leinster (preferably in or around Arklow) had any nice wood I could buy? I would be willing to pay up to €50 and/or trade some wood I have out in the shed that wasn't suitable for the project.

    Here's the sort of thing I'm looking for:

    https: //imgur dot com/hBwAY7b




    oopsie bad link?


    tim
    tried to follow link
    failed sigh!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Alex Nuzum


    @timfromtang remove the spaces and change the dot to a real dot. (apparently I can’t post proper links).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Collibosher




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    Alex Nuzum wrote: »
    Hi there!

    I'm doing construction studies for my leaving cert.
    I was wonder if the anybody in Leinster (preferably in or around Arklow) had any nice wood I could buy? I would be willing to pay up to €50 and/or trade some wood I have out in the shed that wasn't suitable for the project.

    Here's the sort of thing I'm looking for:

    https: //imgur dot com/hBwAY7b


    I managed to follow the link after your help, thank you.


    I have a chunk of burr elm may suit?
    pm me?
    tim
    I am located in Tang about 19km north of Athlone


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    anyone any suggestions on this; it's a rescue from storm ali, basically the bottom of the tree just as it starts to turn into the rootplate. as such, i can't go near it with a chainsaw as it's probably going to be full of soil and stones, but would like to split it into workable chunks to stick on the lathe (though some of it will be very punky).
    i suspect it will be a lost cause trying to split it with a splitting wedge, as the grain will be in all directions?

    the dimensions of what you can see here - about 24" x 18"

    464966.jpg

    lost cause?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭chillyspoon


    anyone any suggestions on this; it's a rescue from storm ali, basically the bottom of the tree just as it starts to turn into the rootplate. as such, i can't go near it with a chainsaw as it's probably going to be full of soil and stones, but would like to split it into workable chunks to stick on the lathe (though some of it will be very punky).
    i suspect it will be a lost cause trying to split it with a splitting wedge, as the grain will be in all directions?

    the dimensions of what you can see here - about 24" x 18"

    lost cause?

    A big bow saw is probably the best option if you don't want to risk a splitting wedge or your chainsaw; e.g. a 36" Bahco https://www.bahco.com/en/p/professional-bow-saw/33-b4-07-5e-d3-bf-d6-6b-72-f8-6b-8e-57-ac-da-8c/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    anyone any suggestions on this; it's a rescue from storm ali, basically the bottom of the tree just as it starts to turn into the rootplate. as such, i can't go near it with a chainsaw as it's probably going to be full of soil and stones, but would like to split it into workable chunks to stick on the lathe (though some of it will be very punky).
    i suspect it will be a lost cause trying to split it with a splitting wedge, as the grain will be in all directions?

    the dimensions of what you can see here - about 24" x 18"

    464966.jpg

    lost cause?




    Hit the bottom with a power washer. then I'd use a sharpened old chain on my chainsaw, probably a couple of old chains really. You will hit rocks, etc, but if like many, you have a nail somewhere with a few old chainsaw chains on, then you can cut it.
    tim


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Wood2Go


    I have loads of these bits if any good for woodturning... wood is called Basra Locus or Angelique...

    Comes in different sizes... mostly rectangular pieces...

    Don't know how to add pics... but if any1 wants to see them we are based in The Downs, Mullingar, co. Westmeath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Hi folks looking to source some western cedar planks. Based in Carlow but travel nationwide so can easily pick up NSEW.

    I'm going to throw my handle at carving a couple of canoe paddles. Appreciate I can buy cheap pine ones online but where's the satisfaction in that.

    So I'm thinking I'll probably need 2 x planks 150mmx1600mmx40mm obviously with as few knots as possible.

    This is more of an interest than anything so if anyone has already done this or has some tips that would be great. Perhaps a more robust wood?

    TIA and mods apologies if this is in the wrong place.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭brane.nikic87


    Hi,

    I am working with pine for the last 1.5 year and now I want to try to do something with hardwood.

    I am in the process of designing a coffee table for my living room and was thinking to do it from walnut or something darkish brown.

    Can anyone recommend a place to buy "cheap" hardwood planks around Limerick (I don't mind driving to Clare or Tipperary) or if you think that walnut is too expensive and I could use something cheaper please share with me? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Walnut's definitely expensive, but on the other hand, it's beautiful to look at and a joy to work with. I'd happily pay the extra, but that's because this is just a hobby and I don't get much time in the shed. Not sure how long a professional would take to roll his eyes at that :D If you were, say, learning to dovetail, I think there's a reasonable argument to buy a small amount of walnut to do it with, at least for the first few, because you're effectively cutting them on easy mode to get used to them and then you can go cut them in woods that are less cooperative and split-prone.

    Oak's fun once you get used to it. I've not had great luck with ash, but I think that's down to cack-handedness.

    I really like poplar for some reason. When you find clear stuff, without that green tinge, it's really pretty. Plus, it's lightweight compared to oak. I'll happily use it as a primary wood, not just for desk drawers and hidden bits.

    Sapele looks beautiful but it's a right pig to work with hand tools (because that beautiful surface iridescence is coming from alternating grain directions), or at least I've found it to be that way.

    As to sources, I'm afraid everything I know anything about is up near Dublin :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭brane.nikic87


    Thanks for your answer. I still need to track where can I buy it cheapest and then to decide with what wood to start with. Would sawmills deal with hobby buyers and would they stock dried timber?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    Hi,

    I am working with pine for the last 1.5 year and now I want to try to do something with hardwood.

    I am in the process of designing a coffee table for my living room and was thinking to do it from walnut or something darkish brown.

    Can anyone recommend a place to buy "cheap" hardwood planks around Limerick (I don't mind driving to Clare or Tipperary) or if you think that walnut is too expensive and I could use something cheaper please share with me? :)

    Have you tried JP Corry in Cahir Co Tipp ? ( they may have changed their name by now )
    Its been a few years since I was there but they had a great selection. Buying hardwoods can seem very expensive but the stuff doesn't go off as long as you can store it so try to buy some extra -- you can plan for future projects.
    Outlets in the ROI are geared to the kitchen supply trade if you ask me. They rarely offer delivery services for small amounts so bring a saw with you if all you have is a small car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭brane.nikic87


    Thank you very much, I can see they have a nice stock of hardwoods and I will try to send them an e-mail to get some prices per sq foot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    Thank you very much, I can see they have a nice stock of hardwoods and I will try to send them an e-mail to get some prices per sq foot.

    Yes. they are primarily a NI outlet so probably source their woods through the UK. Prices are per cubic foot ( we have a curious aversion to the metric system when buying wood ) A good trick to remember is that a cubic foot of wood is a plank 12 inches wide x 12 ft long x 1 inch thick.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭brane.nikic87


    recipio wrote: »
    Yes. they are primarily a NI outlet so probably source their woods through the UK. Prices are per cubic foot ( we have a curious aversion to the metric system when buying wood ) A good trick to remember is that a cubic foot of wood is a plank 12 inches wide x 12 ft long x 1 inch thick.;)

    I am still trying to get used to the imperial system after using metric one my whole life. Rule of thumb that I use for calculating sq feet = (Width x Height x Lenght)/144 (And then I get something like 100€ per plank :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The benefits of getting to know your local garden centre - I spent the evening cutting up about 80kg - very rough guess - of cherry. A section of trunk of between 12 and 14 inches in diameter, and probably over four foot long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    I am still trying to get used to the imperial system after using metric one my whole life. Rule of thumb that I use for calculating sq feet = (Width x Height x Lenght)/144 (And then I get something like 100€ per plank :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

    You would easily carry €100 worth of walnut under one arm, Poplar would be the cheapest hardwood, followed by Iroko, and sapele , then ash and beech, followed by oak with cherry and walnut the most expensive. American alder is available in some places and is similar to cherry but half the price


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭brane.nikic87


    Thank you, lads, for all the info. I will try to ring a couple of places and weight which would be the best option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,176 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    Howdy!
    My next door neighbour was told the other day that Yew wood fetches quite a good price and he just so happens to have a couple on his land. Would anyone like to put forward an average price of the wood itself? He's interested to see how much and might think of selling them to someone interested in making something


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    he won't get much. the value might be in dimensioned dried timber, but standing trees not so much.
    would also depend on the size of the trees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Can across these guys today
    Arthur P Dinan Limited

    Railway Rd, Stradavoher, Thurles, Co. Tipperary
    (0504) 21100

    Do a wide range of timbers, hard/soft/machined/plane/graded to G25/etc

    Nice bunch of lads as well.

    They also pressure treat to order

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 blueballooncat


    Looking to get a 420 x 297 x 12 mm sheet of hardwood of any kind or (2) 210 x 297 x 12 mm sheets for a project, are these measurements just too specific or is there anywhere that I might be able to get one?
    I'm living near Clonmel so anywhere near there would be ideal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Prenderb


    Looking to get a 420 x 297 x 12 mm sheet of hardwood of any kind or (2) 210 x 297 x 12 mm sheets for a project, are these measurements just too specific or is there anywhere that I might be able to get one?
    I'm living near Clonmel so anywhere near there would be ideal.

    A3 and A4 sized? That's quite wide - does it have to be hardwood?

    They're not too specific but I think the 12mm might be hard to get and you might find it expensive if you want these to be a single board.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 rgbnb


    Hi,

    Does anyone know of some hardwood suppliers near Galway City? Just a hobbyist woodworker so not looking for large quantities. Mainly interested in oak/mahogany/walnut/maple planks but would like to work on some live edge projects in the future. Any help/suggestions appreciated thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    rgbnb wrote: »
    Hi,

    Does anyone know of some hardwood suppliers near Galway City? Just a hobbyist woodworker so not looking for large quantities. Mainly interested in oak/mahogany/walnut/maple planks but would like to work on some live edge projects in the future. Any help/suggestions appreciated thanks.


    I remember COENS had a place in Galway at one time that was an excellent source of all timbers. But dont know if they are still there at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 rgbnb


    kadman wrote: »
    I remember COENS had a place in Galway at one time that was an excellent source of all timbers. But dont know if they are still there at all.

    Thanks for the reply. All I can find is Coen steel in Galway, an article in the Independent suggested they moved away from building materials in general to just steel. Will look a bit more into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    rgbnb wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply. All I can find is Coen steel in Galway, an article in the Independent suggested they moved away from building materials in general to just steel. Will look a bit more into it.

    I think there's a place out in Oranmore that does hardwoods. I get my Ash, Beech and Elm off a guy in Corrofinn who has his own sawmill setup at his house.

    Edit:

    You could try Mc Mahons and I think Brooks have a hardware there, they might carry hardwoods. I got my Cherry and Walnut from Brooks in Sligo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    Hi all,
    Living in West limerick/Kerry border. Looking to get into woodwork and need timber. Mostly softwood like pine and maybe a little hardwood such as walnut. Anyone know and good quality and good value suppliers down and around there?


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