Timber

Esel · 16-06-2018 7:23pm

recipio wrote: »

Have a look at http://www.oakdalecrafts.co.uk. They are mainly a veneer shop but sell nice Lime blocks at a reasonable cost.

Link fixed above - needs http:// prefix to work on Touch site.

Lex Luthor · 16-06-2018 8:46pm

I'm looking to source a piece of wood to use as a desktop
Maybe an offcut of a worktop
Has to be solid wood, can be plain pine, I can put some oil on it to give it a colour
something around 120cm long x 60 wide, I can cut to size if bigger than that
Its for a teenagers bedroom so trying to keep costs down
Based in North Kildare...any suggestions please?

Sparks · 16-06-2018 9:47pm

A single solid board two feet wide?
You're not very likely to find that at Woodies

Also, you're going to have to flatten it, and if you have the ability to do that, you might find it easier to laminate smaller boards together.

I suppose you could try something like sapele; getting very wide boards of that is relatively easy.

But I think you'd be better off getting a 240cm long 30cm wide (plus, say, a centimeter or two or so for wastage) board, cutting it in half for two 120cmx30cm boards and edge jointing them. And you're going to have to deal with wood movement. 60cm wide? Even oak or poplar are going to vary in width from just under 59cm wide to just over 61cm wide over the course of a year as the relative humidity changes.

If the idea is to make a desk and keep the costs down and not have to deal with too much wood movement, maybe use MDF or particle board?

Lex Luthor · 16-06-2018 11:47pm

thanks for the info
I'll look at other ideas

Lex Luthor · 17-06-2018 5:53pm

would marine ply be a suitable alternative to use?
Could it be sanded then and stained to give a wood grain look?

recipio · 17-06-2018 6:49pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

would marine ply be a suitable alternative to use?
Could it be sanded then and stained to give a wood grain look?

You are into expense and grief going down that route. I think I would just buy commercial pine shelving available in the DIY stores and glue two lengths together - assuming you have the clamps. Otherwise a sheet of baltic birch 18 mm ply looks a lot like pine but you would have some wastage.

Lex Luthor · 17-06-2018 7:08pm

Thanks again
I see woodworkers.ie has a 5’x5’ sheet that would be ideal for what I need for €40

recipio · 17-06-2018 9:46pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Thanks again
I see woodworkers.ie has a 5’x5’ sheet that would be ideal for what I need for €40

Yes, there is a product called panel board which is pine strips glued together and sold in 8 x 4 sheets. it is however hard to find and only about 14 mm thick. Solid wood will always wear better than a veneered board but you need the right tools to work it.

tabby aspreme · 17-06-2018 9:59pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I'm looking to source a piece of wood to use as a desktop
Maybe an offcut of a worktop
Has to be solid wood, can be plain pine, I can put some oil on it to give it a colour
something around 120cm long x 60 wide, I can cut to size if bigger than that
Its for a teenagers bedroom so trying to keep costs down
Based in North Kildare...any suggestions please?

Strahans in Rathcoole sell laminated pine board , give them a call , if you got an 18mm 600 ✖2440 and cut it in two you would have a nice 36mm desktop.

Help!!!! · 22-06-2018 6:26pm

timfromtang wrote: »

Willow is easy to get and nice to carve, lime is somewhat harder to get but wonderful to carve.
If the form you are carving will allow hollowing of the finished carving, then carving green, whilst the wood is lovely and crisp to cut, and then hollowing to a relatively even thickness and allowing to dry before finishing is a good approach that will transform the carveability of almost any wood (i.e. almost any wood will be much nicer to carve whilst green) a bonus to this approach is that drying can be controlled relatively easily and proceed considerably faster than trying to dry a solid piece before carving.

Green wood in carveable sized pieces is also considerably easier to get, just ask a tree surgeon, or gardener, or farmer, etc, laburnum for example is quite beautiful timber, cotoneaster is sooooo smoooth with fine fine detail, etc
tim

Thanks for your reply
Yeah I've used green wood for my first couple of carvings & they turned out nice & were easier to carve. I have a saw mill near me where I bought the cedar from which I hadnt used before (I think I'll make a table or some stools out of what I got) so didn't realise it was so brittle. The guy also included a few beech blanks so I think I'll keep them for my carving. I'm also on the lookout for a bog wood supplier, (would love to get my hands on some more bog deal)
Thanks again for the reply & advise its much appreciated
Regards

woodturner · 23-06-2018 5:49pm

There's a chap I help out in Geashill in Offaly who has lime. He has other native hardwoods too.

joe90p · 26-08-2018 11:48am

Hi All

Living in Galway City, Just started woodworking and following along with a Paul Sellers workbench build video.

I am having some trouble sourcing the larger pieces of timber e.g 70x90mm for legs. So far I have got pieces from B and Q.

Lokking for advice on
* Cost effective options for getting larger pieces of timber.
* transporting timber.

tabby aspreme · 26-08-2018 12:06pm

Glue pieces together to get the dimensions you want, you will have more choice and get better value in the general builders providers and hardware shops than B&Q

sbkenn · 26-08-2018 5:06pm

try woodworkers.ie Shipping might be a problem though. You could also ask a joinery workshop is they have offcuts.

Sligophoto · 26-08-2018 8:57pm

You could try these guys I believe they can arrange delivery anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps send them an email with the sizes you need.
http://www.thetimberyard.ie

sbkenn · 26-08-2018 9:04pm

Sligophoto wrote: »

You could try these guys I believe they can arrange delivery anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps send them an email with the sizes you need.
http://www.thetimberyard.ie

They are timber importers. They don't saw or plane timber. I just bought €1500 of Sapele off them, some was 32mm thick and 800 wide,when I wanted 25mm thick. Some of it bent substantially when sawn, so I had a fair bit of edge planing to get straight planks.

godtabh · 04-09-2018 9:46am

I have a rabbit hutch that needs a bit of TLC (or a new one!).

I've decided to look into patching it up/building a new one myself. Can anyone recommend an appropriate wood to be used for an outdoor hutch?

magicbastarder · 04-09-2018 9:49am

probably pressure treated timber? should be able to get it in any lumber yard.

godtabh · 04-09-2018 9:58am

magicbastarder wrote: »

probably pressure treated timber? should be able to get it in any lumber yard.

Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?

timfromtang · 04-09-2018 3:33pm

godtabh wrote: »

I have a rabbit hutch that needs a bit of TLC (or a new one!).

I've decided to look into patching it up/building a new one myself. Can anyone recommend an appropriate wood to be used for an outdoor hutch?

Larch would be ideal. You want nice red heartwood planks. Very durable without nasty chemical treatment.
I am sawing larch at home at the moment and could supply you with a few planks if you'd like.
Tim

magicbastarder · 04-09-2018 5:03pm

godtabh wrote: »

Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?

not since 2003, if a quick google can be trusted.

sbkenn · 04-09-2018 5:36pm

Red cedar or Larch. Cedar MAY upset the rabbits, but unlikely. It has it's own natural insecticide and atni bacterial. Larch is a very common timber for boat building, due to it's rot resistance.

timfromtang · 04-09-2018 6:03pm

godtabh wrote: »

Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?

Regardless of how its treated, I'd be very reluctant to bury any timber treated with poison in my soil.
Naturally durable timbers of course are also poisonous, its the extractives deposited by the tree in the heartwood that are responsible, however these poisons are naturally produced and do not leach from the timber into the soil whilst pressure treatment chemicals can leach out.

tim

godtabh · 05-09-2018 9:33am

timfromtang wrote: »

Larch would be ideal. You want nice red heartwood planks. Very durable without nasty chemical treatment.
I am sawing larch at home at the moment and could supply you with a few planks if you'd like.
Tim

I appreciate the offer but other than my OP I haven't given it to much thought so maybe premature!

I will send you a PM

magicbastarder · 19-09-2018 9:00pm

so, did anyone harvest any windfall?
i got two chunks from a tree down near the house - one is the rootplate though, and i suspect is too rotten for anything but the stove.
the other one is a decent sized three way crotch.

mobfromcork · 19-09-2018 9:05pm

Not much down around my way as far as I can see (Carlow). Cut and split a nice load of oak, blackthorn, alder and willow over the last few weeks though. Local farmer was clearing back some thick hedges and said I could help myself to whatever was down (mainly alder and willow with some ash) and got oak from father in law.
Put away a nice bit for next year or the year after.

magicbastarder · 19-09-2018 9:17pm

i need to figure out how to divide this up - my lathe has a maximum capacity of 12" diameter - on the nearer piece, the central section is 15" across the wider section of that main cut. it's two foot across.

Phil.x · 21-09-2018 6:58pm

I got this lump of wood in the recent storm.
I don't know what it is but it very tough to cut, but I'm thinking it might be a bit rotten due to white patch.
Can anyone tell me what wood it is and what could I do with it.

recipio · 21-09-2018 7:18pm

Phil.x wrote: »

I got this lump of wood in the recent storm.
I don't know what it is but it very tough to cut, but I'm thinking it might be a bit rotten due to white patch.
Can anyone tell me what wood it is and what could I do with it.

Its spalted beech. The white area is fungal growth which infected the tree while it was still living. Some people find it attractive and turn bowls from it. Its hard to work as it tends to disintegrate no matter what you do with it.

Phil.x · 23-09-2018 8:25pm

So after lots of sanding and a drop of Danish oil, this is what I've got. Basic due to limited amount of wood working tools and skill.

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