The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

Actually no its not the way to go

Dublin are not the only County unfairly advantaged, Cork Kerry Galway Mayo Down Antrim Derry etc all have population and funding advantages over Leitrim Longford Carlow Sligo etc, what's clear here is you see what you want to see and your County is one of the few that would benefit from splitting Dublin . Anyway splitting Counties is not going to happen , but keep on with the nonsense , tis great crack so it is .🤣

Your ignoring that Cork Antrim Down etc are unfairly advantaged and have up to 14 times the population and more funding than Leitrim Longford Carlow etc

I Think your to biased and anti Dublin to analyse things in a neutral unbiased way tbh . Croke Park is in Dublin, if Dublin qualify for semi finals and finals they are played in Croke Park sure lobby the GAA to move it to Cork , whinging on here will get you nowhe

I answered your question about splitting Dublin would only help a handful of Counties Kerry Tyrone Mayo Cork Galway " i have no doubt it would benefit your County" which amazingly but not surprisingly you never mention. it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to Leitrim Longford Carlow Sligo etc and it especially wouldnt help Dublin.

But sure continue on with this nonsense , tis great crack so it is .

I never accepted Croke Park is an advantage , you seem to think it is , i said whinging about it here will change nothing.

I accept Leitrim Longford Carlow Sligo etc will never be able to compete with the bigger Counties so i agree several Counties would need to be split , i don't see what is confusing to you about this , discrepancies like 500,000 population v 37000 population are off the scale also and would also need to be rectified

I answered you several times , splitting Dublin will not help Leitrim Longford Carlow they cant compete against a single unfairly advantaged Kerry Cork Derry etc with there population and superior funding

You havn't answered my question how leaving a leaving Cork Down Kerry Mayo Derry as single massively unfairly advantaged teams v Leitrim Longford Carlow etc helps -please do also

I notice you havn't revealed who your County is , i wonder why 😏 please do so

Great Post NJSC1980👍️

You really need to move on, and accept the status quo. Its like saying we should split Brazil in four because of the population advantage they have when it comes to soccer. The GAA were trying to encourage participation in Dublin. A lot of people don't realise that there are huge parts of Dublin where there is little or no GAA played. There are actually more GAA clubs in Cork than there is in Dublin. And by the way, Croke Park is not Dublin's home ground, Parnell Park is.

Not at all. The status quo is terribly unfair so why accept it? I want the GAA to be improved, for all counties.

Croke Park is Dublin's de facto home ground- they've played all their home league games there since 2010.

Brazil have a large population, true, but they aren't a unique outlier, whereas Dublin are. There are far more GAA players in Dublin than any other county, as well as having a larger pool to begin with. And you haven't even paid attention to the funding. You need to be more unbiased and at the very least accept Dublin are unfairly advantaged vs everyone else.

Again It would not be enhanced for everyone , only a handful of Counties "and your own County of course" Dublin supporters would never row in quickly with this not ever , The good news is this will never happen but please continue on with this nonsense tis great crack so it is .

What would the borders of the 4 new counties you would split Dublin into? 2 northside and 2 southside ?

Sorry query meant for gaffer91 !

You continue to embarrass yourself and display your one-eyed, partisan nonsense for all to see.

It is as plain as day that you are, again, hiding behind the "its for the good of the game, won't someone think of the poor wee counties" crap that you've been spouting for weeks/months at this stage, when the reality is that you just want to hobble the Dubs to make it easier for 3 or 4 other counties to win.

Like being slapped in the face with a wet fish, it's that obvious.

......I mean, I can practically hear your erection getting bigger as you typed this....

So let's spell it out for you, in language that even the most rural of plough-jockeys can understand.

You think Dublin has an advantage over Cork because of population and funding, therefore they need to be split. Dublin has more people and more money than Cork, therefore at least a 4-way split needs to take place, according to you, for the good of the game. What has been pointed out to you multiple times, however, is that this discrepancy exists between Cork and loads of other counties also, to a much higher degree.

You're saying the difference between Dublin and X is greater than Cork and X. This is true, but you're not comparing like with like. You're pointing at Dublin saying they're three times the population of Cork so a split needs to take place, while ignoring that Cork is 14 times the population of Leitrim. If Dublin need to be split in three so Cork are playing on a level ground, then Cork need to be split in 14 so that Leitrim has a level ground, using the same logic. This is bunleibhéal maths that even a blind person could see.

You're saying Dublin gets twice what [insert county here] gets in development funding, while ignoring the fact that that same county gets 4, 6 or 8 times the funding that Carlow gets.

You're literally contradicting yourself and negating your own points in the same sentence.

If a bigger population and more money = an unfair advantage, then it is equally as unfair when it's Cork vs Louth, or Galway vs Leitrim, or Kilkenny vs Carlow, as it is with Dublin vs Cork.

They are not uniquely advantaged in this regard, that's your own coping mechanism to deal with your contradictions

This will not help the minnows to progress and improve, you're only pretending it will to make it look like you've only the best interests of GAA/football at heart, as it makes you look less like a bloke with a chip on your shoulder. Very balanced folks, though, the culchies. Most have a chip on both shoulders.

"Leaving non-Dublin counties intact helps smaller counties as it enhances the integrity and prestige of the competition"......he says, while single-handedly advocating that the prestige and integrity of the competition will be completely compromised if he gets his way.

Dublin will not be split, not in two, four or any number you can think of. Alienating nearly a third of your fanbase, who are responsible for the majority of your gate receipts is a fool's errand. Don't believe me?.........why do the rest of Leinster not ask for Dublin's matches to be moved from Croker? They regularly meet to discuss the forthcoming championship and year after year, there's zero opposition to the arrangement continuing because facing Dublin in Croker is a huge payday for the other county boards. If they thought it was that much of an advantage, they'd kick up a stink. But they don't.

Why look at clubs and not registered players? You're deliberately trying to mislead people there. Fortunately, I can see through it. Dublin have the most registered players and by far the largest population pool, at a scale that is unfair to everyone else, unlike more minor discrepancies between other counties which are negligible compared to Dublin. Plus as Dublin's playing pool is so much larger than everyone else, it means the likelihood of having a larger absolute number of top-quality players who can be identified and nurtured at a young age is correspondingly larger. This helps retain these players to enhance the game in Dublin in a way that is not possible anywhere else. As it happens, this is good for the game as a whole too, provided Dublin are split. But this is essentially the way the population/funding/home advantage model that Dublin have used to win All-Ireland's has worked- a larger population provides a higher number of top-quality players. The funding advantage helps develop these players to their max potential. Playing at home helps Dublin win tight games they would lose if playing elsewhere.

You're just looking at the outputs though (matches won, All-Ireland finals reached etc.). What's more important is the inputs into team performance though. In Dublin's case these inputs an enormous population, funding etc. So even if they don't win every year they are still unfairly advantaged. Just as if a rugby team took steroids but didn't win every year, they are also unfairly advantaged.

I agree distribution of resources is an issue, that's why I'm in favour of equalising it across counties. But one of the best ways of distributing resources more fairly would be to do so across 4+ subdivisional county teams, rather than just concentrating the resources into a single one.

Not partisan, I just want what is best for gaelic games in all counties- including Dublin. If a Dublin sub-divisional side won fairly every year, I'd be delighted for them. But we all know that is not the case for Dublin currently.

Your tired, stale points have been dealt with by me and others many times already but I'll humour you for now and answer them again. In absolute terms, which is the most important, no county is anywhere near as populated as Dublin, as well funded as Dublin etc. The gap between Dublin and Cork, also a massive statistical outlier, is larger in absolute terms than Cork and Leitrim. Any of these advantages alone would be grounds for a split, but combine the scale of Dublin's advantages with the fact they have been going on for decades and that they are unique in their combination, means a split is the best way forward. Minor discrepancies can be tolerated but not ones as large as Dublin's. As I've said before, it's the combination, nature, scale and duration of Dublin's advantages that mean they need to be split, not just any one of those things individually (population alone is grounds for a two-way split given how much larger they are, but the other ones means a larger split is desirable).

So I haven't contradicted myself anywhere and the discrepancy between e.g. Cork and other counties is not anywhere near the scale of the gap between Dublin and other counties, on any of these criteria- hence why Dublin, and Dublin alone, should be split. As the competition becomes fairer, the prestige and integrity are improved. So any county taking part in the competition benefits, which means all counties benefit.

What you're also ignoring is that as Colm O'Rourke has previously said, a split of Dublin actually helps Dublin more than any other county- more players challenging for the All-Ireland, as well as intra-Dublin rivalries developing. People may complain at the beginning but they'd rapidly row in behind their new subdivisional teams. And playing at home is absolutely an advantage for Dublin, as it is for all sports teams- make no mistake, if Dublin weren't unfairly home advantaged for all those All-Irelands from 2013-2020, they'd have lost at least one of them. No matter what some other county boards may think. Home advantage is an advantage in sport.

Basically, it's clear that Dublin alone are unfairly advantaged, so Dublin alone should be split. All counties, including Dublin would benefit from this.

Again more lnonsense , you want what's best for your County . Colm O'Rourke WOW your scraping the end of the barrel now lol... Are you a Meath man ? 😁

Keep it going lad , sure tis great crack so it is

"I'm not partisan, I'm just going to ignore all the holes in my argument, the rank hypocrisy I'm spouting and the contradictory nature of every turd that comes out of my mouth and single out one single county for my bollocksology, all while refusing to say which county I'm from/support".

As the username says, yeah, right.