Rotterdam Marathon 10th April '16

Firedance · 05-02-2016 6:28pm

tang1 wrote: »

Go to Manchester so, we'll have LOADS of fun still........

Of course you would! wouldn't make a whit of difference to anyone if I was there or not, another benefit to Manchester is I've family in London who could be my support team.. I'm just thinking out loud really.

Firedance · 05-02-2016 6:32pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

..because why the f*ck would you want to go to *spit* Manchester *spit*

Crikey!,what did Manchester do to you!!

Oh I see tangs post, it's English soccer related....

RacoonQueen · 05-02-2016 8:28pm

Firedance wrote: »

Crikey!,what did Manchester do to you!!

Oh I see tangs post, it's English soccer related....

He deleted it when he remember Leeds are mighty. :cool:

Have yee all booked flights?
We've an apartment booked for 4 of us through air b'n'b - another option if any of you haven't get anything booked. Air b'n'b stuff pops up all the time, so even if something isn't there now there might be something good next week.

Firedance · 05-02-2016 8:36pm

I've the hotel booked but not flights yet, was going to do it after the 20 miler then I figured I'd wait till Trim.....

tang1 · 05-02-2016 8:38pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

He deleted it when he remember Leeds are mighty. :cool:

Have yee all booked flights?
We've an apartment booked for 4 of us through air b'n'b - another option if any of you haven't get anything booked. Air b'n'b stuff pops up all the time, so even if something isn't there now there might be something good next week.

He deleted cause he knew this wasn't the place for football discussion!! Stick to the thread, charter rules!! Flying out at 1.40pm Saturday and back at 8.40pm Monday evening. Return flights for the missus and myself for €110. Staying at the citizenM hotel, just off the Coolsingel.

dublin runner · 05-02-2016 8:52pm

tang1 wrote:

He deleted cause he knew this wasn't the place for football discussion!! Stick to the thread, charter rules!! Flying out at 1.40pm Saturday and back at 8.40pm Monday evening. Return flights for the missus and myself for â‚¬110. Staying at the citizenM hotel, just off the Coolsingel.

You so and so. Stayed there two years ago. Very very good. Jealous.

You get a tablet that operates everything, from lights to the curtains to the extensive movie collection. Perfect for the marathon runner!

The marathon route goes right by the door so a good place if you have anyone to give you drinks etc.

The metro is right outside the door. It was free on marathon day. Just make sure to get on it early as it's manic!

tang1 · 05-02-2016 8:54pm

dublin runner wrote: »

You so and so. Stayed there two years ago. Very very good. Jealous.

You get a tablet that operates everything, from lights to the curtains to the extensive movie collection. Perfect for the marathon runner!

The marathon route goes right by the door so a good place if you have anyone to give you drinks etc.

The metro is right outside the door. It was free on marathon day. Just make sure to get on it early as it's manic!

It was cause of your recommendation that I booked it!!

dublin runner · 05-02-2016 8:58pm

Haha. I'll get you the place of the local Italian are you are set. It was brand new when I visited. The reviews say it all. It's a place that's too kool for skool.

I choose somewhere closer to Paddy Murphys because it took me over an hour to get back that night. Should have taken us 15 minutes. Nightmare! Ha

thomas anderson. · 05-02-2016 10:25pm

The Davestator wrote: »

I really hope I'm not the only one, but my training is going terribly! No excuse, just really sick of running in rain and gale force winds. It's soul destroying!

I hear ya brah, i hear ya

Firedance · 07-02-2016 9:56pm

Flights booked :eek: no going back..

RacoonQueen · 07-02-2016 10:02pm

Was just thinking of you, assuming you'd decided based on good race today!

Firedance · 08-02-2016 7:26pm

According to their facebook page Rotterdam Marathon is nearly sold out, so for anyone still in the 'maybe' camp now's the time to register!

paulers06 · 12-02-2016 10:38am

ASIMON0V wrote: »

Just a thought but why not keep your 5 days, and reduce your immediate aspiration on target pace for your speedwork. The goal isn't to hit your paces in speedwork - its to optimise the training load....

Never thanked you for your advice or reported back! Thank you. I powered through and hitting the targets fine now. Think it just took me a while to get back to proper fitness after being sick over Xmas.

Just ordered my new marathon shoes! A shiny new pair of Brooks Pureflow. Anyone else splurging for the occasion?

snailsong · 13-02-2016 8:36pm

Myself and another lad booked into the Bilderberg Park Hotel. No flights booked yet. Must get on it. Oh yes, and training. That's the other thing I've been meaning to get to.

Slogger Jogger · 13-02-2016 9:16pm

Hope training is going okay for all.
Another long run ticked off today. 2 months and it'll all be over.

Firedance · 13-02-2016 9:17pm

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Hope training is going okay for all.
Another long run ticked off today. 2 months and it'll all be over.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

RacoonQueen · 13-02-2016 9:40pm

Only 5 long runs to go

7 is you count easy week long runs, but I don't. 5 LONG ONES TO GO!!!!!

Apologies to anyone running long tomorrow

corny · 14-02-2016 7:29pm

18 miles today. Cold wind and hail stones in the face. Why do we bother?

Slogger Jogger · 14-02-2016 7:32pm

Its all about timing

. Got 31k in yesterday, 13k in today in sunshine after the snow showers. Good vibes to fellow Rotterdamers.

Firedance · 14-02-2016 7:36pm

corny wrote: »

18 miles today. Cold wind and hail stones in the face. Why do we bother?

because we LOVE it! :pac:

sydneybound · 15-02-2016 6:44am

26k (or 16miles) of a god damn hilly run done yesterday. Those hill would make it 30-32k on flat roads!

I rebooked my accommodation last night changed for a central apartment on Airbnb, I know it's marathon weekend but places are fairly expensive at this stage. If you haven't done it already I'd book now or you'll get totally ripped off given its normally a cheap place to stay every other weekend.

thomas anderson. · 17-02-2016 11:15am

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Only 5 long runs to go

7 is you count easy week long runs, but I don't. 5 LONG ONES TO GO!!!!!

Apologies to anyone running long tomorrow

What are we constituting as a long run?

Slogger Jogger · 17-02-2016 7:23pm

Long runs for me left are between 31 and 33k, around that.

RacoonQueen · 17-02-2016 7:49pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

What are we constituting as a long run?

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Long runs for me left are between 31 and 33k, around that.

Yah 18 miles and upwards

thomas anderson. · 18-02-2016 9:57pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Yah 18 miles and upwards

Using a P&D 12week 55miler plan and they only have 2 long runs at 20 miles each.

Yes have psyched me out now ðŸ˜

Firedance · 19-02-2016 4:09pm

Sold out now! they're expecting 40,000 runners between all the races :eek:

sydneybound · 19-02-2016 11:03pm

40,000 runners in total that means there should be great support around the course to carry us home!

Firedance · 20-02-2016 8:32am

sydneybound wrote: »

40,000 runners in total that means there should be great support around the course to carry us home!

carry us home? deadly, I can rest up for the next few weeks so

Slogger Jogger · 21-02-2016 2:59pm

Another long run ticked off. 100km for the week. Conditions tough today with gusting wind.

Looking at some Dutch footy at the moment. Considering going to a match over the weekend. Local club Excelsior are playing at home on Sat evening, so that might be an option. Website is double dutch though. :rolleyes: I'll decide nearer the weekend.

tang1 · 21-02-2016 3:13pm

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Another long run ticked off. 100km for the week. Conditions tough today with gusting wind.

Looking at some Dutch footy at the moment. Considering going to a match over the weekend. Local club Excelsior are playing at home on Sat evening, so that might be an option. Website is double dutch though. :rolleyes: I'll decide nearer the weekend.

Was considering the same myself, it doesn't have the same appeal as De Kuip and a Feyenoord home game though. Mind you there is little difference in Excelsior and Feyenoord going by the Dutch League table.

RacoonQueen · 22-02-2016 7:27pm

No long run for me last week. Not 100% - between heel pain and other things I had a poor week over all. Even the 10 miler yesterday wasn't up to much. Just one of them weeks.

tang1 · 22-02-2016 7:31pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

No long run for me last week. Not 100% - between heel pain and other things I had a poor week over all. Even the 10 miler yesterday wasn't up to much. Just one of them weeks.

Shame to hear, it'll not make or break your marathon. Just one of those weeks as you say.

paulers06 · 23-02-2016 12:49pm

Just took a look at the course in Strava. Had is in my head that it was pancake flat. Strava has the elevation gain at 844ft and says my gain was 577 ft for Dublin last year. Is that right? Maybe I should hit up a hill or 2 tonight!

aero2k · 23-02-2016 12:57pm

paulers06 wrote: »

Just took a look at the course in Strava. Had is in my head that it was pancake flat. Strava has the elevation gain at 844ft and says my gain was 577 ft for Dublin last year. Is that right? Maybe I should hit up a hill or 2 tonight!

My Garmin from last year shows 454 ft of elevation gain. https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/746941203

It's definitely not pancake flat, but I reckon it's about 1 min faster than Dublin given similar weather conditions. The only notable hills are the bridge (twice in opposite directions) which is long and gentle, and there are a couple of short sharp inclines as you get back towards the city centre.

ultrapercy · 23-02-2016 1:21pm

paulers06 wrote: »

Just took a look at the course in Strava. Had is in my head that it was pancake flat. Strava has the elevation gain at 844ft and says my gain was 577 ft for Dublin last year. Is that right? Maybe I should hit up a hill or 2 tonight!

Hills should be included in every marathon training programme regardless of course profile but as demfad says it's as close to pancake as makes no difference, very fast course and more than 1 minute faster than Dublin. I'd estimate 2 to 5 minutes faster depending on your pace.

Firedance · 23-02-2016 3:10pm

aero2k wrote: »

My Garmin from last year shows 454 ft of elevation gain. https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/746941203

It's definitely not pancake flat, but I reckon it's about 1 min faster than Dublin given similar weather conditions.

I sincerely hope in my case its a lot more than 1 min faster than Dublin

If you thought I was panicking earlier I'm completely freaked out now :eek: :pac:

dublin runner · 23-02-2016 3:53pm

One other big factor; road conditions.

The state of the roads in Ireland (DCM in particular) plays a huge role in my opinion. The roads in Holland are generally way better and in Rotterdam, smooth.

Rotterdam has no climb or hills, just small drags. Nothing at all if you run hills. Hill training is where it's at.

dublin runner · 23-02-2016 3:55pm

Firedance wrote:

I sincerely hope in my case its a lot more than 1 min faster than Dublin

Depends on time. I would hazard 90-120sec for a 3hr runner. The gains are bigger as you increase in time, smaller as you get closer to WR time!

Firedance · 23-02-2016 4:09pm

dublin runner wrote: »

Depends on time. I would hazard 90-120sec for a 3hr runner. The gains are bigger as you increase in time, smaller as you get closer to WR time!

how does an hour sound :pac: I'm being facetious - I'm not comparing like with like as training/fitness etc are vastly different this time around so its not really a case of which course is faster in my case it's (hopefully) that I'm faster!

thomas anderson. · 23-02-2016 10:04pm

Did a 5mile recovery run tonight

Fell apart after the 2nd one.

It's going to be a long few weeks

aero2k · 24-02-2016 12:26pm

On reflection I'd say at least 2 min quicker than Dublin- I ran both in 2015 in similar times but the conditions in Dublin were much more difficult - on the other hand my legs were in much better shape for DCM. The long drag up Stoneybatter last year did slow the pace noticeably - it would take a braver man than me to be giving that a lash so early in the race.

The smooth roads in Rotterdam are lovely to run on. It's a much easier race to pace than Dublin - just get up to target pace on the way down from the bridge and engage the cruise control:D.

MacSwifty · 24-02-2016 1:05pm

Quick question is the water in bottles or cups?

Thanks

aero2k · 24-02-2016 1:09pm

MacSwifty wrote: »

Quick question is the water in bottles or cups?

Thanks

Cups, but not as you'd normally know them. I think there's some info on the race website. The cups have a sponge in the top with a couple of small notches so you can drink without choking or drowning yourself. It takes a couple of goes the first time you try but after that it's way better than the usual cups which I could never manage at all - to the extent that I wouldn't run a marathon which used standard cups. (But then, I'm never doing another one - right RQ?!)

MacSwifty · 24-02-2016 1:35pm

aero2k wrote: »

Cups, but not as you'd normally know them. I think there's some info on the race website. The cups have a sponge in the top with a couple of small notches so you can drink without choking or drowning yourself. It takes a couple of goes the first time you try but after that it's way better than the usual cups which I could never manage at all - to the extent that I wouldn't run a marathon which used standard cups. (But then, I'm never doing another one - right RQ?!)

Cheers for that!

Colly8 · 24-02-2016 3:48pm

Sorry, this question may have been asked or addressed already but does anyone know what times the pacers start at and how long the intervals are between the pacers (i.e. every 10 minutes or every 15 minutes).
Thanks

aero2k · 26-02-2016 3:23pm

IIRC swaps are allowed up to a certain deadline - in too much of a hurry to check now.

TFBubendorfer · 26-02-2016 3:35pm

aero2k wrote: »

IIRC swaps are allowed up to a certain deadline - in too much of a hurry to check now.

I found this on the website:

The starting permit is strictly personal and cannot be transferred.

I assume that the transfer deadline has now passed and number transfers are not allowed. Unless someone can point out that this is wrong the following applies:

<mod>Any further offers or requests for number transfers will result in a ban.</mod>

tang1 · 26-02-2016 4:46pm

Colly8 wrote: »

Sorry, this question may have been asked or addressed already but does anyone know what times the pacers start at and how long the intervals are between the pacers (i.e. every 10 minutes or every 15 minutes).
Thanks

3hrs to 4.30hrs last year so I'd imagine the same this year. Going on previous years threads though the pacers weren't the best. Not speaking from experience.

aero2k · 26-02-2016 10:52pm

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I found this on the website:

I assume that the transfer deadline has now passed and number transfers are not allowed. Unless someone can point out that this is wrong the following applies:

<mod>Any further offers or requests for number transfers will result in a ban.</mod>

Sorry Thomas,

I may have been imagining it from last year. They did have some pretty cool options like paying an extra €5 which allowed you to get a refund of the entry fee up to a certain date if you had to withdraw.

Slogger Jogger · 27-02-2016 11:41am

Yet another LSR ticked off. 31.5k picking up pace towards the end.
Great conditions for a run in Co Wicklow this morning.

Rotterdam Marathon 10th April '16

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