Off Topic Thread too point uh

errlloyd · 23-11-2015 04:51PM

Ethical debate time.

Balls.ie posted this article.

http://www.balls.ie/fitness-lifestyle/9-of-the-nicest-irish-rugby-jerseys-weve-ever-seen/316093

It breaks down the 9 nicest jerseys of pro rugby. Contains at least one per province, a few international shirts and every single one made by canterbury. The article is sponsored by Elverys Intersport, the official partner store to Canterbury in Ireland.

Is this

A: An ethical dilemma, evidenced by the fact they are clearly not the nicest jerseys, and the prominence of the current non spectacular Leinster jersey.

B: A Bona Fide list that genuinely is the authors honest opinion.

C: Not an ethical dilemma because the lifestyle section of what is effectively a blog has no duty to readers to be fair and balanced.

23-11-2015 04:53PM

d. Clickbait

irishbucsfan · 23-11-2015 04:54PM

It's a sponsored post, it's native advertising. Whether native advertising is unethical is up to interpretation really, but a lot of publications really can only make decent advertising revenue using it.

Podge_irl · 23-11-2015 04:54PM

errlloyd wrote: »

A: An ethical dilemma, evidenced by the fact they are clearly not the nicest jerseys, and the prominence of the current non spectacular Leinster jersey.

B: A Bona Fide list that genuinely is the authors honest opinion.

Whether it is A or B kind of depends on how much you trust the journalistic integrity of the source. Sponsorship is a fact of life if these kind of sites want to stay in business so it comes down to whether you trust them to actually be impartial. Some I would, some I wouldn't.

Edit: Actually, I misread that as Balls in general being sponsored by Elvery's. The fact that is a "sponsored article" is not made remotely clear enough for my liking to be honest.

23-11-2015 04:56PM

Pink Fairy wrote: »

Wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseam

If you're going to do that you might as well wait until the end before bothering with the first two.

errlloyd · 23-11-2015 04:59PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's a sponsored post, it's native advertising. Whether native advertising is unethical is up to interpretation really, but a lot of publications really can only make decent advertising revenue using it.

Native advertising is usually more like "Elverys are opening a new store in Blackrock Village...." effectively a story that is in some way news worthy, but wouldn't gain such prominence without the sponsorship.

Nostalgia is like 80% of what Balls.ie is (where are the team from Italia 90 now). This is quite a blatant attempt to tap into that. I kinda hate it.

Native Advertising btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F5GxCwizc

irishbucsfan · 23-11-2015 05:17PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Native advertising is usually more like "Elverys are opening a new store in Blackrock Village...." effectively a story that is in some way news worthy, but wouldn't gain such prominence without the sponsorship.

Not quite. It's anything that matches the medium. This is a pretty textbook example of native advertising. It would be an article about a store opening if it was a different publication, such as a newspaper who would normally report in that form. The same happens on all of those sites, such as joe.ie etc. Not just those either to be fair, major publications do it with increasing regularity.

irishbucsfan · 23-11-2015 05:19PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Edit: Actually, I misread that as Balls in general being sponsored by Elvery's. The fact that is a "sponsored article" is not made remotely clear enough for my liking to be honest.

I think there's been a technical error on their part, whether incidental or not? At the top of the article in really small grey print it says "brought to you by" and then nothing, I guess that's supposed to be a logo or some other attribution/disclosure.

errlloyd · 23-11-2015 05:19PM

If that's true, that worries me. This is the first blatant example I have spotted in Ireland. So if it's happening loads I really think it is an ethical issue.

errlloyd · 23-11-2015 05:22PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I think there's been a technical error on their part, whether incidental or not? At the top of the article in really small grey print it says "brought to you by" and then nothing, I guess that's supposed to be a logo or some other attribution/disclosure.

Haha, someone is using adblock. Work PC doesn't let me use adblock, maybe that's why I noticed it this time and not before. Ironically adblock making advertising more effective.

pickarooney · 23-11-2015 05:28PM

Does she KNOW she's an ad?

b.gud · 23-11-2015 05:29PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Haha, someone is using adblock. Work PC doesn't let me use adblock, maybe that's why I noticed it this time and not before. Ironically adblock making advertising more effective.

Here's how I saw it

irishbucsfan · 23-11-2015 05:29PM

Ah, that would be it then. I don't see the attribution OR the ads either side of the article.

23-11-2015 05:31PM

Some ugly jerseys in that list

mfceiling · 23-11-2015 08:40PM

phog wrote: »

From Rathmines to Limerick takes me about 2 & 1/4 hrs. If you hit outskirts of Limerick anytime after 3.00 on a Friday or 4ish on other days avoid Adare.

I know a sweet little short cut round adare. Could take 30 mins to get through it when it's really bad. My way takes 8 mins and planks me right out the far side of it!!

awec · 23-11-2015 08:45PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I know a sweet little short cut round adare. Could take 30 mins to get through it when it's really bad. My way takes 8 mins and planks me right out the far side of it!!

Is it the same shortcut that phog has already posted?

mfceiling · 23-11-2015 09:18PM

awec wrote: »

Is it the same shortcut that phog has already posted?

No.

Get to the roundabout at the end of the dual carriageway (it becomes a single road about 3 miles before this). Swing left...travel about 3 miles and take right. A few mins and at the end of that road take right at the T junction. Another minute or 2 and you come out on the other side of Adare. Head left and you're gone. I've taken that road before and ended up 25 minutes ahead of my Bro in law (who fecked me out of it when we got to ballinskelligs that evening!!).

phog · 23-11-2015 09:26PM

mfceiling wrote: »

No.

Get to the roundabout at the end of the dual carriageway (it becomes a single road about 3 miles before this). Swing left...travel about 3 miles and take right. A few mins and at the end of that road take right at the T junction. Another minute or 2 and you come out on the other side of Adare. Head left and you're gone. I've taken that road before and ended up 25 minutes ahead of my Bro in law (who fecked me out of it when we got to ballinskelligs that evening!!).

That's fine if you don't get backlogged on the dual carriageway in heavy traffic. That's why I mentioned exiting earlier and using the back road via Patrickswell.

Stheno · 23-11-2015 10:53PM

The OH is using MY Sky Sports to watch soccer!!!:eek::eek::eek:

Zzippy · 23-11-2015 11:54PM

Stheno wrote: »

The OH is using MY Sky Sports to watch soccer!!!:eek::eek::eek:

b.gud · 24-11-2015 12:11AM

Zzippy wrote: »

Posting on the honeymoon, that'll cost you

Congrats by the way, hope it was a good day

Zzippy · 24-11-2015 12:20AM

b.gud wrote: »

Posting on the honeymoon, that'll cost you

Congrats by the way, hope it was a good day

Not heading away yet. Cheers!

Pink Fairy · 24-11-2015 12:25AM

Zzippy wrote: »

Not heading away yet. Cheers!

Where ye going?....... Thomond park on Saturday to watch the connacht boys getting whipped.... We won't take any notice of one more whipped connacht lad down there!

Zzippy · 24-11-2015 12:29AM

Pink Fairy wrote: »

Where ye going?....... Thomond park on Saturday to watch the connacht boys getting whipped.... We won't take any notice of one more whipped connacht lad down there!

Unfortunately I'll be away, always love the trip to Thomond. I did get to the Sportsground the day after the wedding though. She knows my priorities

Stheno · 24-11-2015 12:46AM

b.gud wrote: »

Posting on the honeymoon, that'll cost you

Congrats by the way, hope it was a good day

Zzippy wrote: »

Unfortunately I'll be away, always love the trip to Thomond. I did get to the Sportsground the day after the wedding though. She knows my priorities

I hope you had a super time, and will have a fab break

I always hold it against my OH that our 2009 6N ended on his birthday, twas the first year we were together, and I'd to listen to the match on the radio

Thankfully times have changed.

24-11-2015 12:47AM

Zzippy wrote: »

Unfortunately I'll be away

So the Connacht forum will be un moderated for a couple of weeks. Time to start winding up the hard core supporters (all 2 of them).

Don't forget to pack Zippy, you'll need your travel bag:

Your wash bag:

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And your travel tea pot:

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And whatever you do, don't forget to send us a postcard!

Zzippy · 24-11-2015 12:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So the Connacht forum will be un moderated for a couple of weeks.

It's a "mini-moon" aparently, so you'll have the weekend

Deleted User wrote: »

Time to start winding up the hard core supporters (all 2 of them).

Now that's a paddlin'!

awec · 24-11-2015 12:57AM

Where are you going on honeymoon Zzippy? I heard it was Letterkenny?

Zzippy · 24-11-2015 01:03AM

awec wrote: »

Where are you going on honeymoon Zzippy? I heard it was Letterkenny?

Close but no cigar, starts with an L alright.

Longford...

:pac:

Stheno · 24-11-2015 01:06AM

Zzippy wrote: »

Close but no cigar, starts with an L alright.

Longford...

:pac:

NO. Seriously?

At least in Letterkenny there are a few sights to see

Off Topic Thread too point uh

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