UFC 189: Mendes vs. McGregor

Nodin · 12-07-2015 03:17PM

Saipanne wrote: »

Boxing is so dull and sluggish compared to this.

I'd humbly suggest you haven't a bogs notion what you're on about.

Fat Christy · 12-07-2015 03:21PM

What a hero, delighted for him.

Gatling · 12-07-2015 03:33PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Aldo is one of the greatest UFC fighters of all time. He has done it all at the age of 28...you're vastly underrating the guy. Sure he didn't act like a professional here but you're being very harsh and biased.

I never said connor breezed through your words not mine .
I certainly don't respect aldo as been the greatest ufc fighters .
He's fought 7/8 times ditched 5 of them for various reasons And now a dodgy of hell drug test and then the ohh I've broken ribs ohhhhhh but jose you don't have broken ribs .

I will say aldo is good but not unbeatable mendes took the best aldo had and went the distance depite illegal blows from aldo along with several attempts to have points docked too .
I'll gladly put money of mcgregor to beat not just beat but decisively beat aldo that's if aldo doesn't decide to retire and an unbeaten champion

Talib Fiasco · 12-07-2015 03:43PM

McGregor

Gatling wrote: »

I never said connor breezed through your words not mine .
I certainly don't respect aldo as been the greatest ufc fighters .
He's fought 7/8 times ditched 5 of them for various reasons And now a dodgy of hell drug test and then the ohh I've broken ribs ohhhhhh but jose you don't have broken ribs .

I will say aldo is good but not unbeatable mendes took the best aldo had and went the distance depite illegal blows from aldo along with several attempts to have points docked too .
I'll gladly put money of mcgregor to beat not just beat but decisively beat aldo that's if aldo doesn't decide to retire and an unbeaten champion

Hmmmmmm

Connor made short work of mendes

Now I don't know about you, but to me that means to do something easily/quickly....something Conor didn't.

Well if you don't respect him then you clearly have a hatred against him or some sort of bias. With Jones on hiatus, he's p4p #1. He's the best featherweight of all time, that is indisputable...but he's still not one of the best fighters of all time? Quit fooling.

Gatling · 12-07-2015 03:45PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Hmmmmmm

Now I don't know about you, but to me that means to do something easily/quickly....something Conor didn't.

Well if you don't respect him then you clearly have a hatred against him or some sort of bias. With Jones on hiatus, he's p4p #1. He's the best featherweight of all time, that is indisputable...but he's still not one of the best fighters of all time? Quit fooling.

2 rounds less than 10 minutes that's short work again poor jose couldn't do it in 25 mins.
Hatred or biassed seriously dredging there aren't we .
I've said it plenty of times aldo has never fought a more driven fighter than mcgregor before and chances are never will fight hin

Talib Fiasco · 12-07-2015 03:47PM

McGregor

Gatling wrote: »

2 rounds less than 10 minutes that's short work again poor jose couldn't do it in 25 mins

Short work would be if Conor controlled the fight like Chad did for the first round and all but seconds off a full second round and then finished it like it did. Nothing about last night was short work for Conor.

Casually avoiding the Aldo acclaim part too I see...

Gatling · 12-07-2015 03:50PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Short work would be if Conor controlled the fight like Chad did for the first round and all but seconds off a full second round and then finished it like it did. Nothing about last night was short work for Conor.

Casually avoiding the Aldo acclaim part too I see...

What acclaim .

Two rounds wasn't that the prediction. Something the supposed greatest ufc fighter of all time couldn't do .

Talib Fiasco · 12-07-2015 03:53PM

McGregor

Gatling wrote: »

What acclaim .

Two rounds wasn't that the prediction. Something the supposed greatest ufc fighter of all time couldn't do .

He said one round, two round whatever. He also said Mendes would provide no challenge, something he found out was completely wrong the hard way very fast.

I never said he was the best UFC fighter of all time, best featherweight yes. He isn't even the best fighter of all time of current fighters. Bones Jones and Silva are clearly superior.

Bobby Baccala · 12-07-2015 03:58PM

Saipanne wrote: »

Enough to know it's boring.

Waffle

Gatling · 12-07-2015 04:03PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

He said one round, two round whatever. He also said Mendes would provide no challenge, something he found out was completely wrong the hard way very fast.

I never said he was the best UFC fighter of all time, best featherweight yes. He isn't even the best fighter of all time of current fighters. Bones Jones and Silva are clearly superior.

Jones yeah till his drug incidents at least he didn't just turn up once a year to fight .

Silva record means nothing now been honest I would have said silva all day but with steroids no his record should be wiped .(don't believe it was an accident or a once off )

nc19 · 12-07-2015 04:10PM

shamrock55 wrote:

Why someone would want to go to a ufc fight is beyond me, watching 2 lads rolling around on the floor, its laughable tbh, the irish must be more gullable then i thought if they are gonna fill croke park to watch that rubbish

*than

Brian2011 · 12-07-2015 04:10PM

If Aldo retires, does McGregor become the new champ? I mean Aldo has to fight him now to gain belt back, right?

My name is URL · 12-07-2015 04:19PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

If Aldo retires, does McGregor become the new champ? I mean Aldo has to fight him now to gain belt back, right?

McGregor is the new champ already, albeit an 'interim' one, but yes; he'll be pronounced the champion proper if Aldo were to retire before they meet, which I don't think will happen.

That fight would be the most lucrative the UFC have ever staged.

Brian2011 · 12-07-2015 04:27PM

My name is URL wrote: »

McGregor is the new champ already, albeit an 'interim' one, but yes; he'll be pronounced the champion proper if Aldo were to retire before they meet, which I don't think will happen.

That fight would be the most lucrative the UFC have ever staged.

Where would the fight likely take place, Las Vegas again, Brazil, Dublin, another arena in US?

My name is URL · 12-07-2015 04:30PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

Where would the fight likely take place, Las Vegas again, Brazil, Dublin, another arena in US?

Can't imagine it being anywhere other than in Vegas again

Brian2011 · 12-07-2015 04:33PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Can't imagine it being anywhere other than in Vegas again

McGregor is pushing the UFC for a Dublin fight, probably won't happen though.

Gatling · 12-07-2015 04:34PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Can't imagine it being anywhere other than in Vegas again

I know the idea was already shot down but the millennium stadium would be insane with a closed roof
Dana white said several years ago he love to bring a title fight to Dublin but can't see a major title fight such as Mcgregor vs aldo happen here it will as you said already Vegas

A Primal Nut · 12-07-2015 04:53PM

Boxing can be boring especially with defensive strategies of the likes of May weather. The fight last night was a 100 times more exciting that mayweather v pacquiao.

The way McGregor was on his back, escaped the submission, got back on his feet and soon after hit a knockout punch. Was an amazing sequence.

There were many close calls where you thought a knockout might occur in the two rounds. Boxers can easily go 12 rounds without a single close call.

My name is URL · 12-07-2015 04:55PM

Gatling wrote: »

I know the idea was already shot down but the millennium stadium would be insane with a closed roof
Dana white said several years ago he love to bring a title fight to Dublin but can't see a major title fight such as Mcgregor vs aldo happen here it will as you said already Vegas

That'd be a class venue for it. I'd head over myself if it was in London and I'm not even a huge fan of the sport.

I have a feeling that the MGM Grand will have some clout in the decision though, they'll probably claim to have lost out by having Aldo pull out last time. They'd have initially signed the deal for a McGregor - Aldo card and the UFC might just give any 'grudge' match to them to avoid soured relations in the future.

I doubt Aldo's team would agree to a Dublin fight even if White was up for it.

If it was held either here or in London they lose out on PPV sales too because of the timezone difference

edit: lol, Cardiff, London... they're all the one

nxbyveromdwjpg · 12-07-2015 04:57PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

Where would the fight likely take place, Las Vegas again, Brazil, Dublin, another arena in US?

The UFC have already set the Aldo fight will be in Vegas and if Conor wins his first defence will be in Croke Park.

Talib Fiasco · 12-07-2015 04:58PM

McGregor

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Boxing can be boring especially with defensive strategies of the likes of May weather. The fight last night was a 100 times more exciting that mayweather v pacquiao.

The way McGregor was on his back, escaped the submission, got back on his feet and soon after hit a knockout punch. Was an amazing sequence.

There were many close calls where you thought a knockout might occur in the two rounds. Boxers can easily go 12 rounds without a single close call.

Mayweather is a once in a generation fighter. You'd have to go back to a guy like Sweet Pea Whitaker to find a guy similar to him. I agree last night was more exciting than Floyd/Manny, but you cannot paint a whole sport with the same brush you paint Mayweather with

The reason that is, is because boxers take punches better than UFC guys for the vast majority. Floyd would KO Conor or any other UFC featherweight in seconds if we're talking strictly boxing and hand blows. It's unfair to compare the two sports in a sense as they are very different to each other, something the general public don't notice or consider.

Nodin · 12-07-2015 05:04PM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Boxing can be boring especially with defensive strategies of the likes of May weather...........

You can have two lads grappling whose styles effectively cancel each other out going for 3 to 5 rounds in the UFC as well. Difference between a not very lively fight in MMA and Boxing is that the latter goes on longer, but both still have them.

my friend · 12-07-2015 05:04PM

'Add to that two insane fan bases in each man's corner. McGregor has his Irish contingent, who we have seen are a rowdy bunch of people reminiscent of old school soccer hooligans'

From Bleacher Report on the forthcoming LV scheduled Aldo v McG

Paully D · 12-07-2015 05:06PM

stretchdoe wrote: »

And any good amateur boxer, let alone a professional, would waste these guys in seconds; again IMO.

Ask James Toney how that went.

Talib Fiasco · 12-07-2015 05:09PM

McGregor

Paully D wrote: »

Ask James Toney how that went.

Toney was 42 when he took up Mma, at that stage he was considered a bum in Boxing let alone in a new combat sport. Unfair post Paully.

Saipanne · 12-07-2015 05:12PM

McGregor

If anyone wants to see a pro boxer versus a pro MMA fighter, find:

Randy Couture vs James Toney

osarusan · 12-07-2015 05:14PM

This thread has become the UFC vs Boxing thread we all dreaded.

Billy86 · 12-07-2015 05:15PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Toney was 42 when he took up Mma, at that stage he was considered a bum in Boxing let alone in a new combat sport. Unfair post Paully.

Randy Couture, which beat him with ease, was 46/47 at the time.

osarusan · 12-07-2015 05:16PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

It's unfair to compare the two sports in a sense as they are very different to each other, something the general public don't notice or consider.

Agreed, comparisons are fairly pointless.

I do think the general public see them as fairly different sports though.

My name is URL · 12-07-2015 05:16PM

haha, this seems to be causing some people minor annoyance

Report from the BBC -

McGregor, 26, won in Las Vegas to become the first UFC champion from the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/33497089

It is a slightly odd way to word it though I guess

UFC 189: Mendes vs. McGregor

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