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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Ah here now TV !! .. any more of that altruistic sh!te and I'll ban ya off the forum :D .. I'm more along the lines of a close game for 60 mins and then pull away to a 4 point win with no debatable decisions and the ref havin a sparkler of a game .. is that too much to ask ? ;)

    And I'm the dreamer? :pac:

    The true blue in me wants to eviscerate every opposition. I'll take the 4-16 again :D However, even though the aul nerves aren't up to much when games go to the wire there is value to be had by Kildare taking to almost to the 70. I also believe there is value to be had in a Dublin loss, as much as that'll kill me. At lthe very least there's way more value in those outcomes for both teams and for Leinster than a drubbing. I want to learn about the Dublin who'll fight when they're in danger of getting rolled over and I want to learn about them now, not in August. Is that too much to ask? :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Soyokakano


    Really the only teams I can see winning Sam this year are the Dubs or Kerry.
    I don't think their is much threat from Ulster
    Maybe Mayo or Roscommon out of Connacht might do something, but their not beating Dublin
    Cork again good but not on the level of the big two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,527 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Soyokakano wrote: »
    Really the only teams I can see winning Sam this year are the Dubs or Kerry.
    I don't think their is much threat from Ulster
    Maybe Mayo or Roscommon out of Connacht might do something, but their not beating Dublin
    Cork again good but not on the level of the big two.

    Definitely unfair to rule Donegal out. I would be surprised if it was outside of Dublin, Kerry, Donegal and Mayo (to a lesser extent). It is still early days so hard to judge other teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I also believe there is value to be had in a Dublin loss, as much as that'll kill me.
    The run in the qualifiers in 2010 was the making of this team IMHO. That and the league that year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    Stoner wrote: »
    The run in the qualifiers in 2010 was the making of this team IMHO. That and the league that year.

    Agreed, we were knocked back by Meath, the first time in years we failed to win in Leinster. It knocked our confidence and we had to build it back up bit by bit. Were poor enough against Tipp and Armagh but the wins gave us belief and then we beat Tyrone which was a bit of a hoodoo buried.

    Hopefully the Donegal defeat has forced this team to remember they need to concentrate for every minute of every game. They'll be the better football team in pretty much any match, they just need to be careful to win that battle that takes place in the head.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,281 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    The 4 goals and change we put past you twice in 2013 fell to a 1-22 to 1-12 in the league last year. We've not seen each other in quite some time, I hope you put us to the sword. It'll be good for Kildare football, good for Dublin and good for Leinster.
    would love to see a good tight game. our games seem to be very well played always open flowing football in the past lets hope it stays that way and blanket defences stay away from leinster


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Soyokakano wrote: »
    Really the only teams I can see winning Sam this year are the Dubs or Kerry.
    I don't think their is much threat from Ulster
    Maybe Mayo or Roscommon out of Connacht might do something, but their not beating Dublin
    Cork again good but not on the level of the big two.


    Dublin currently have a spine of Byrne, Small, Fenton, Kilkenny and Rock.

    If it read O'Carroll, O'Sullivan, McCauley, Kilkenny and O'Gara, I would be much more confident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Apart from O'Gara will that not just happen anyway? Although I see Fenton getting a good shot this year. Him Bastic and MDMA as the midfield and sub. With O'Sullivan remaining in defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Stoner wrote: »
    Apart from O'Gara will that not just happen anyway? Although I see Fenton getting a good shot this year. Him Bastic and MDMA as the midfield and sub. With O'Sullivan remaining in defence.

    Saw bastic walking around town with his foot in a cast :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Bambi wrote: »
    Saw bastic walking around town with his foot in a cast :confused:

    Went over on his ankle playing with TSS - no worries regarding his fitness from his perspective (fingers crossed)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    Soyokakano wrote: »
    Really the only teams I can see winning Sam this year are the Dubs or Kerry.
    I don't think their is much threat from Ulster
    Maybe Mayo or Roscommon out of Connacht might do something, but their not beating Dublin
    Cork again good but not on the level of the big two.

    I get the feeling you don't watch much football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    dog_pig wrote: »
    I get the feeling you don't watch much football

    He certainly avoids Ulster football it would seem!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    He certainly avoids Ulster football it would seem!

    Who'd blame him :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭Soyokakano


    I think the 4 provincial winners will be

    Dublin, Monaghan, Kerry, Roscommon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I don't think the roscommon lads are anywhere near the condition of the Mayo squad . Regardless of what my Mayo friends tell me! Decent guys but need to play at a certain level for longer I think, not this year IMHO .

    I'd be surprised if Monaghan claimed Ulster and even if they did I expect Donegal to still go further overall in the championship.

    Dublin and Kerry are the safest bets for provincial wins IMHO.

    Cork are not at the races IMHO from a team I considered to be unbeatable four years ago I now rate Mayo, Monaghan Dublin, Donegal, Kerry a bit ahead of them.
    I think Meath, Cavan, Tyrone and roscommon would ask serious questions of them too. They are sitting there and getting a rating of a top team but I don't see it the management look light on inspiration, they have three really good forwards, but IMHO O'Neil and hurley can be man marked out of a game by the top teams (mainly hurley) . They have a pretty rooted midfield too, bringing retired lads back in, lads that were right to retire. I guess that's how things go. They should have put AIs back to back in 2010&2011.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭corny


    I know its 3 matches this week but isn't 30 euro a little steep?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=239792

    Great idea for Sunday. Fair play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,474 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Anybody able to tell me if Hill 16 tickets are on general sale in ticket office? Left the Parnell Passes at home this morning - really should just stick them in my wallet - and only stands available on tickets.ie. I try to avoid Ticketbastard wherever possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Collie D wrote: »
    Anybody able to tell me if Hill 16 tickets are on general sale in ticket office? Left the Parnell Passes at home this morning - really should just stick them in my wallet - and only stands available on tickets.ie. I try to avoid Ticketbastard wherever possible
    They should be.

    I got a Hill ticket yesterday in Super Valu on Aston Quay from Tickets.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,474 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    They should be.

    I got a Hill ticket yesterday in Super Valu on Aston Quay from Tickets.ie

    Just tried Centra. None available. Chhers though, will chance my arm with the walk up to Dorset Street. Just not sure if they sell without a pass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    A few surprises if they line out as posted

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Just An Opinion


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    A few surprises if they line out as posted

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    Kevin McManamon will switch with Dairmuid Connolly I'd imagine. Sticking with the last day debutants with the experience to be called upon if needed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Would be great to see Cian O'Sullivan just left in the half back line, although that is an interesting midfield, don't think I've seen that partnership before.
    Bastic must be injured.
    Is Rory O'C injured too?

    I wouldn't fancy the team tbh unless it's a building exercise. No McCarthy either. Not sure that Small, Byrne or Daly are the best options although that's a strong forward line.
    TBH my preferred half back line would be completely different. I'd have
    McCarty, O'Sullivan, Devereux/McCaffery, McCaffery would be a sub. But there is enough speed in the three lads and a bit more bite too.

    I'm glad that Cooper is not being deployed in the half back line. I'd also have liked to see N Devereux get more playing time this year. He's a starter IMHO but would need more game time. Small did very well so far this year. I can't really fault him. I guess he's going to do the usual stuff. Play the guys he played during the league and gradually as they start to struggle in games he'll bring in the more experienced players. He certainly gives the lads a chance anyway. It's a decent way to deal with players.

    Delighted to see Fenton get a starting position.

    However later on I could see him moving into the half forwards, overall rock could miss out in the mix up. But Fenton Connelly Flynn would give serious options for kickouts, with MDMA and bastic in midfield. The only issue after that would be the rotating midfielder. I guess we my still not have moved passed Cian in the mix there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭corny


    If you were to place any importance on interviews given the players are under no illusions, no one walks back into the team based on reputation. I'd like to think these are the lads pulling it out in training.

    Certainly i always view young lads coming in as a huge plus anyway. Just hope Fenton, Byrne and Small lay down a marker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I think they come back in because they are better, based on that bastic must not be 100% he put a huge shift in during the league to secure his championship place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,671 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Would never be said but maybe they are happy to give a few bodies some decent championship time safe in the knowledge that the front 6 can outscore the opposition. That said Id be shocked if thats the starting 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    salmocab wrote:
    Would never be said but maybe they are happy to give a few bodies some decent championship time safe in the knowledge that the front 6 can outscore the opposition. That said Id be shocked if thats the starting 15.

    But is there not some sanction or something about that now. I think that fines etc will be put in place. I think it's something like if there are more than two changes etc, or else the guys have to be injured or have a decent reason for not starting.

    One thing is for sure that they won't all start in those positions. Kilkenny will move out.

    I think Rock has been showing a hint of promise under the highball lately. I think he might be profiting from O'Gara being injured. We have not seen his long accurate kicking much recently (pity) and he is clearly not offering the ball winning options at half forward that others do. His best offer and most needed by this team might actually be in the square.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭corny


    Good performance. Quick points.

    KK's points were all brilliant.

    McCaffrey is first choice half back for me now such has been his application all year.

    COS is wasted covering space. He can be far more influential if he's allowed attack a man and/or a ball. Put another player in that role.

    KMac starts so many of our attacks with his movement into space. Largely unheralded work but absolutely vital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    Who got man of the match? Kilkenny impressedmeme endlessly today.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭Justice4Adolf


    corny wrote: »
    COS is wasted covering space. He can be far more influential if he's allowed attack a man and/or a ball. Put another player in that role.

    He reads the game well. And he's very fast. We've plenty of quality in attack and it's good to strengthen our defense from last year.


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