Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

RoyalCelt

Stoner wrote: »

Wasn't that McGill from rathoth at fullback for meath yesterday. I saw him a couple of times for the meath u21s he held Costello and Manion very well. Costello in particular. Yesterday he looked at sea, yet he was a super u21.

He was actually very good this year and had earned his place. That was his championship debut and it was a baptism of fire. He'll improve a lot because that performance didn't do him justice.

corny

Liam Rushe and Keaney back to more normal positions. Don't blame Cunningham for giving it a go but a failed experiment.

Good to see Boland starting.

PlayByTheRules

corny wrote: »

Liam Rushe and Keaney back to more normal positions. Don't blame Cunningham for giving it a go but a failed experiment.

Good to see Boland starting.

Decent enough team on paper for ye. Areas of concern would be the full back position, half back line (excluding Rushe) and whether that midfield has enough gas in the tank to cover enough grass for a full game. Sutcliffe really needs to put in a big performance, he has not shown his 2013 form for some time and we all know he has it in him. Keaney was tried at full forward before and it didn't work, he's some man to catch a ball but lacks the quick bursts required for full forward. The two corner forwards might work well off him though as both like to sniff around for goals. Dillon & Boland deserved their starts.

EICVD

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/davey-byrne-released-from-hospital-after-breaking-eye-socket-in-armagh-challenge-game-31357434.html

Bit dodgy that happened prior to throw in.

DoctaDee

EICVD wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/davey-byrne-released-from-hospital-after-breaking-eye-socket-in-armagh-challenge-game-31357434.html

Bit dodgy that happened prior to throw in.

..... I knew this would arise , I was at a club league game on Saturday when a lad who would've known my Ballymun connections "filled me in" on the goings on. This was a challenge game behind closed doors, so there's a huge degree of he said she said .. but what's not in contention is the severity of the injuries suffered by Davey.

As a Mod - please lads don't offer conjecture on this and let the incident take its own course - what we may or may not know on the incident shouldn't be brought into a public forum until any legal aspects are finalised. Ta

Oh Dublin won

evosteo

Hi all. Could anyone point me in the right direction. Im getting a signed dublin jersey framed and im looking to get a squad picture of the 2013 final team to include under the jersey. Im looking to get the best quality i can, possibly 7 x 5. Any pointers appreciated.

TouchingVirus

DoctaDee wrote: »

..... I knew this would arise , I was at a club league game on Saturday when a lad who would've known my Ballymun connections "filled me in" on the goings on. This was a challenge game behind closed doors, so there's a huge degree of he said she said .. but what's not in contention is the severity of the injuries suffered by Davey.

As a Mod - please lads don't offer conjecture on this and let the incident take its own course - what we may or may not know on the incident shouldn't be brought into a public forum until any legal aspects are finalised. Ta

Oh Dublin won

Fair enough DD, but jaysus you wouldn't be expecting it at any match; sounds like he was broke up. He'll be missed on Sunday - get well soon Davy!

evosteo wrote: »

Hi all. Could anyone point me in the right direction. Im getting a signed dublin jersey framed and im looking to get a squad picture of the 2013 final team to include under the jersey. Im looking to get the best quality i can, possibly 7 x 5. Any pointers appreciated.

http://inpho.ie/media/vEayAYqOCQzzavgKDpz5Fg..a?ts=py6kzyQzXU6pV8yrKuMZCQ..a

6x8 is €15

evosteo

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Fair enough DD, but jaysus you wouldn't be expecting it at any match; sounds like he was broke up. He'll be missed on Sunday - get well soon Davy!



http://inpho.ie/media/vEayAYqOCQzzavgKDpz5Fg..a?ts=py6kzyQzXU6pV8yrKuMZCQ..a

6x8 is €15

Legend thanks

TheNap

So Michael Carton leaves the hurling panel.

One of our best and most consistent performers over the last 5 years.

Treated terribly all year.

Surely after the weekend this management will be shown the door . Never in my life seen a more inept manager. But sure he talked with a country accent during his interview so had to get the job right.

Kavrocks

TheNap wrote: »

So Michael Carton leaves the hurling panel.

Do you know exactly what the reason was?

TheNap wrote: »

Treated terribly all year.

From what I heard Ger Cunningham appeared to be quite accommodating with him all year?

TheNap wrote: »

Surely after the weekend this management will be shown the door . Never in my life seen a more inept manager. But sure he talked with a country accent during his interview so had to get the job right.

The loss to Galway was the fault of the management team alone but there's something else going on behind closed doors with that Dublin team. I think mentally they are very weak and don't seem to have much team spirit.

TheNap

Yes i do know the reason.

No he wasnt quite accomadating.

Yes i agree with your last point.

Kavrocks

TheNap wrote: »

Yes i do know the reason.

No he wasnt quite accomadating.

Care to enlighten us then?

Dyr

TheNap wrote: »

Yes i do know the reason.

No he wasnt quite accomadating.

Yes i agree with your last point.

Any reason he couldn't have left announcing it until after the limerick game?

Orizio

TheNap wrote: »

Yes i do know the reason.

No he wasnt quite accomadating.

Yes i agree with your last point.

PM?

DoctaDee

All that early season optimism seems to have vanished for the hurlers - I'd be of the same opinion that MC could've laboured thru til next week with his grievance .. for other than the fact he wouldn't have started Saturday

thinkstoomuch1

TheNap wrote: »

So Michael Carton leaves the hurling panel.

One of our best and most consistent performers over the last 5 years.

Treated terribly all year.

Surely after the weekend this management will be shown the door . Never in my life seen a more inept manager. But sure he talked with a country accent during his interview so had to get the job right.

Your probably a shay boland fan are you just out of interest and belive should got job over Cunningham
Correct me if I'm wrong just a guess


Terribly awful insult just about management accent
is that the best you can do to say he is not up to it



I can name ten worse manager then cunningjham you want, with greatest respect just cause you don't have knowledge or simply want acknowledge such doesn't mean there are not there


Cunningjham of course be deserved be judged but year one in taking over Dublin team clearly past best not mileage and like dotsie Callaghan and Ryan dwyer others need be dropped and badly need shake up panel and trying play possession game not daly physics game takes time to work

Whether cunningjham is going to work time will tell but he's won all ireland cork was part average team got another all ll ireland final two years ago beat Dublin yes Dublin and coaches ucc and bsllygunner so he's record is good plus brought in outstanding ed coughlan ex mayo football coach fitness wise who worked professional team England

Now please enlighten me who you think should got the job? and I presume you wanted a home grown coach
You were never fan cunningjham day one and that's your right but if he never won anything I'd say fair enough


This nonsense carton treated appalling all year sure if it's so true and you can stand by logic you put it open forum
There's always players cut panel new fella comes in and carton your getting bit carried away has not been one of Dublin best player last five years


Good but he's been inconsistent

No suitable proven candidate in Dublin let's call spade spade for the job and even Liam rushe said prior announcement Dublin wanted a big big name

DoctaDee

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Your probably a shay boland fan are you just out of interest and belive should got job over Cunningham
Correct me if I'm wrong just a guess


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No suitable proven candidate in Dublin let's call spade spade for the job and even Liam rushe said prior announcement Dublin wanted a big big name

See this is the kicker TTM .. the senior players (Carton included) insisted on a big name appointment from outside the county ... to the point in fact that they didn't want Shay Boland as manager.

Cunningham has gotten an awful lot wrong this year tactically but look that's part and parcel of trying to stamp your own mark on the team - . Daly was quoted to have been too loyal to his players .. and probably under him Carton would've walked straight back into the team. There was a huge fkup playing Carton in the corner against Galway.. and he did seem to bear the brunt of the criticism.. maybe this aspect of player communication needs to be worked on by Ger ?

Kavrocks

DoctaDee wrote: »

Cunningham has gotten an awful lot wrong this year tactically but look that's part and parcel of trying to stamp your own mark on the team - . Daly was quoted to have been too loyal to his players .. and probably under him Carton would've walked straight back into the team. There was a huge fkup playing Carton in the corner against Galway.. and he did seem to bear the brunt of the criticism.. maybe this aspect of player communication needs to be worked on by Ger ?

Carton didn't play in the corner against Galway, he was full back. Paul Schutte played in the corner. It was his first game back after a brief injury and he was very slow and slipped numerous times which is what gave Cathal Mannion so much space and time to pick off his scores.

The Galway match was not the fault of any of the players and I was a little disappointed Cunningham didn't come out straight after the game and say 'he got it wrong, was to blame but the players fought back really well and a bit of luck with the penalties and we'd have been right back in it'.

DoctaDee

Apologies yep Carton @ FB

TouchingVirus

Dublin Hurling is in a bit of a jock at the minute. We've lost Hiney to retirement, McCrabbe for work/family commitments (or that's the public line) and Carton who was clearly ticked off with being shafted at selection time. A failed experiment with Rushe in the forward line, abysmal tactics especially with the Galway replay and some bizarre selections/substitutions. I'll be there in Thurles but I won't be hopeful, it feels like the team has gone backwards.

Slattsy

Sell out expected for Sunday?

DoctaDee

Slattsy wrote: »

Sell out expected for Sunday?

Wouldn't say so ... heard the lakelanders are coming in their droves. .huge uptake on the tickets

Kavrocks

Slattsy wrote: »

Sell out expected for Sunday?

80,000 people wanting to see Dublin hammer Westmeath? Nice joke.

seligehgit

Eugene McGee on the Sean O Rourke show discussing the injuries suffered by Davey Byrne in a behind the doors challenge game against Armagh.In total agreement with the sentiments of the discussion,how often do these allegedly unsavoury incidents have to happen before somebody shouts stop?

PlayByTheRules

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Dublin Hurling is in a bit of a jock at the minute. We've lost Hiney to retirement, McCrabbe for work/family commitments (or that's the public line) and Carton who was clearly ticked off with being shafted at selection time. A failed experiment with Rushe in the forward line, abysmal tactics especially with the Galway replay and some bizarre selections/substitutions. I'll be there in Thurles but I won't be hopeful, it feels like the team has gone backwards.

I wouldn't be that pessimistic, Hiney had lost his pace and retirement was coming. McCrabbe didn't exactly light up the Championship for Dublin last year when he came back, the game has moved on a lot in recent years and he didn't seem to have the physicality that was thrown at him last year. Losing Carton is unfortunate for Dublin hurling but the manager has to choose who he feels are his best 15. Maybe Cunningham wants to move away from Daly's old defensive build-up style and be more expansive? Who knows.

There are still lots of fine hurlers still on that team but I would agree that chopping and changing at this time of year is not wise. Limerick have been poor this year also and nowhere near where they were at last year so I'd say it's 50:50.

Dublin, like Limerick, and every other team in the country bar Kilkenny, lack consistency so you can have 1/2 yrs of struggle and then a year of more success.

jjdonegal

https://m.soundcloud.com/offtheball/wooly-presses-jim-gavin-on-davey-byrne-incident

Gavin would make a great politician :-)
Awful what happened young Byrne I wish him a speedy recovery

CurryFlavoured

That's hilarious, we know Jim gives nothing away but he's taking the Mick there. Take a drink every time he says 'regrettable' or 'frank discussion'!

I'd love to see the footage.

Gael85

Dublin have used 25 players in 2 Championship game.Appearances+Subs for 2015 Championship Game



Brogan, Bernard 2
Cluxton, Stephen 2
Connolly, Diarmuid 2
Cooper, Jonny 2
Fenton, Brian 2
Flynn, Paul 2
Kilkenny, Ciaran 2
McCaffrey, Jack 2
McMahon, Philip 2
McManamon, Kevin 2
Rock, Dean 2
Small, John 2
Daly, Darren 1+1
Macauley, Michael Darragh 1+1
Bastick, Denis 1
Byrne, David (Olafs) 1
O’Carroll, Rory 1
O’Sullivan, Cian 1
Andrews, Paddy 0+2
Brogan, Alan 0+2
Fitzsimons, Michael 0+2
Brady, Tomas 0+1
Lowndes, Eric 0+1
McCarthy, James 0+1
O’Conghaile, Emmett 0+1



Dublin have scored 9-43 and conceded 0-24 in 2 Championship games. Scorers 2015 Championship Games


Brogan, Bernard 3-9
Rock, Dean 2-10
Connolly, Diarmuid 3-3
Kilkenny, Ciaran 0-7
Flynn, Paul 1-3
Brogan, Alan 0-3
McMahon, Philip 0-2
McManamon, Kevin 0-2
Andrews, Paddy 0-1
Brady, Tomas 0-1
Fenton, Brian 0-1
Lowndes, Eric 0-1






Dublin have used 35 players in 9 League games.Appearances+Subs for 2015 League Games

Cooper, Jonny 9
McManamon, Kevin 9
Rock, Dean 9
McCaffrey, Jack 8+1
Brady, Tomas 7+2
Bastic, Denis 8
Kilkenny, Ciaran 6+2
McMahon, Philip 6+2
O'Carroll, Rory 7
Brogan, Bernard 5+2
Small, John 5+2
Costello, Cormac 3+4
Fenton, Brian 3+4
Cluxton, Stephen 6 (4 Clean Sheets. Conceded 3 Goals)
Culligan, Eoin 6
McCarthy, James 3+3
O'Conghaile, Emmett 2+4
Connolly, Diarmuid 5
Flynn, Paul 4+1
Daly, Darren 3+2
O'Gara, Eoghan 3+2
O'Sullivan, Cian 3+2
Andrews, Paddy 1+4
Fitzsimons, Michael 2+2
Byrne, Davy (Ballymun) 1+3
Currie, Sean 3 (2 Clean Sheets. Conceded 1 Goal)
Carthy, Shane 2+1
Macauley, Michael Darragh 2+1
Byrne, David (Olafs) 1+2
Devereux, Nicky 1+2
Lowndes, Eric 1+2
Reddin, Ciaran 0+2
Deegan, Michael 0+1
McHugh, Conor 0+1
Ryan, Philip 0+1

Dublin have scored 8-131 and conceded 4-101 in 9 League games. Scorers 2015 League Games

Rock, Dean 1-52
Brogan, Bernard 2-8
McCaffrey, Jack 1-7
Brady, Tomas 0-8
McManamon, Kevin 0-8
Connolly, Diarmuid 1-5
Kilkenny, Ciaran 0-7
Fenton, Brian 1-3
Flynn, Paul 0-5
McMahon, Philip 0-5
Costello, Cormac 1-2
O'Conghaile, Emmett 0-4
O'Gara, Eoghan 0-4
Bastic, Denis 1-1
Andrews, Paddy 0-3
Byrne, Davy (Ballymun) 0-2
Carthy, Shane 0-2
Cooper, Jonny 0-2
Deegan, Michael 0-1
Macauley, Michael Darragh 0-1
Ryan, Philip 0-1

Dublin have used 34 players in 5 O'Byrne Cup games.Appearances+Subs for 2015 O'Byrne Cup

Brady, Tomas 5
Culligan, Eoin 5
Devereux, Nicky 5
O'Conghaile, Emmett 5
Rock, Dean 5
Small, John 5
Daly, Darren 5
Fitzsimons, Michael 4+1
Bastick, Denis 4
O'Gara, Eoghan 4
Hannigan, Graham 3+1
Ryan, Philip 2+2
Carthy, Shane 1+3
Scully, Niall 0+4
Costello, Cormac 3
McManamon, Kevin 3
Molloy, Lorcan 3 (1 Clean Sheet)
Collins, Niall 2+1
O'Carroll, Rory 2+1
Cooper, Jonny 1+2
Dawson, Harry 1+2
Lowndes, Stuart 0+3
Currie, Sean 2 (1 Clean Sheet)
McCaffrey, Jack 1+1
Dunleavy, Craig 1+1
Deegan, Michael 0+2
Kavanagh, Ian 0+2
Macauley, Michael Darragh 0+2
O'Higgins, Paddy 0+2
McCarrick, Alan 0+1
McGowan, Ross 0+1
McGuire, Conor 0+1
McLoughlin, Diarmuid 0+1
McMahon, Philip 0+1

Dublin have scored 3-80 and conceded 3-43 in 5 O'Byrne Cup games. Scorers 2015 O'Byrne Cup Games

Rock, Dean 0-38
O'Gara, Eoghan 2-7
McManamon, Kevin 1-6
Brady, Tomas 0-7
O'Conghaile, Emmett 0-6
Carthy, Shane 0-5
Ryan, Philip 0-3
Costello, Cormac 0-2
Deegan, Michael 0-2
Cooper, Jonny 0-1
Culligan, Eoin 0-1
McLoughlin, Diarmuid 0-1
Scully, Niall 0-1

DoctaDee

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

That's hilarious, we know Jim gives nothing away but he's taking the Mick there. Take a drink every time he says 'regrettable' or 'frank discussion'!

I'd love to see the footage.

Wow yeah .. that interview didn't sit easy with me

Kavrocks

DoctaDee wrote: »

Wow yeah .. that interview didn't sit easy with me

Makes you wonder what really happened and why it's being kept so hush hush...