Off Topic Thread too point uh

15-06-2015 10:10PM

Buer wrote: »

The temptation to read that spoiler....the temptation.

Anyway, I've 42 weeks to read the books now and about time I got the finger out. Off to Amazon with me.

The spoiler in my post doesn't give away anything from the books.

molloyjh · 15-06-2015 10:13PM

Worst season by a distance. Badly paced and lacking in any real tension. For a season where so many characters were killed off there was little to none of them that were even close to scenes like the red wedding. I think at this stage the fact that characters get killed off so readily has hurt the show. As soon as something looks likely you know that's it. There's no saving of characters in real danger and so after a while the deaths start to lose their impact.

Jon Snows death tonight had me initially go "oh f**k I didn't see that coming.", swiftly followed by a "ah well, so there's another character gone. Next.". There was feck all emotional fall out from it.

Teferi · 15-06-2015 10:20PM

Possible book related spoilers about one of the deaths:

Jon Snow isn't actually dead. You can tell from the way it's written in the book.

BuilderPlumber · 15-06-2015 10:56PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I thought Mad Max was great. It was everything an action movie should be.

In fact anyone who dislikes it is definitely wrong, because it is objectively brilliant.

It is a great film and captures the feel of the earlier ones very well. And it is great to see good revisits like this as they are few. And this is one series where sequels can retell various aspects of the world Mad Max lives in.

I always had a good feeling about this and had the hunch that this was going to be of a high standard. But it was even better than what I expected it to be. 5 main reasons why this was a good revisit:

1. It belongs to a good series of films: The Mad Max films always were interesting and intelligent, telling a story of the last days of the world as we know it (first one) and the early days of the emerging post apocalypse societies (films 2-4). Other revisits belonged to series that were less strong.
2. It was a set of films that always has more stories to tell. Mad Max is a much more complex and interesting character than say Police Academy's Mahoney, John Rambo or Rocky Bilbao for example.
3. It avoids all the rightwing/pro-American macho man one man army type action films of other 1980s rooted heroes such as Rambo. There is in such films only good and bad whereas Mad Max has given us characters who are often a mix of good and bad.
4. The same director was in charge and knew what he was doing.
5. All the lead actors especially Charlize, Tom, Hugh, the guy who played Nux, etc. were excellent and well cast.

.ak · 15-06-2015 11:28PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Worst season by a distance. Badly paced and lacking in any real tension. For a season where so many characters were killed off there was little to none of them that were even close to scenes like the red wedding. I think at this stage the fact that characters get killed off so readily has hurt the show. As soon as something looks likely you know that's it. There's no saving of characters in real danger and so after a while the deaths start to lose their impact.
Jon Snows death tonight had me initially go "oh f**k I didn't see that coming.", swiftly followed by a "ah well, so there's another character gone. Next.". There was feck all emotional fall out from it.

Ha, I actually was more upset when the viper died, I don't know why! Snow was always very vulnerable there

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awec · 15-06-2015 11:29PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Half way through GoT and those scenes with
Arya getting her revenge and then her punishment
are the best yet this season.

I laughed last week when you said to me that

you knew Jon was always going to be safe.

:pac:

awec · 15-06-2015 11:43PM

This is my theory based on having read the books:

Jon gets resurrected by Melisandre and because he died is released from his Nights Watch vows. He gets an army (probably the wildlings) and takes back Winterfell.

thomond2006 · 16-06-2015 04:47AM

Go Blackhawks!

molloyjh · 16-06-2015 08:34AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Go Blackhawks!

Are they down?

Sorry, I'll get my coat....

16-06-2015 08:35AM

I've 'lost' a character in GOT. Can anyone tell me where

Chris from Skins / The Armourer's aprentice / Robert's bastard son / the guy the red woman leeched blood from

is anymore?

molloyjh · 16-06-2015 08:37AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've 'lost' a character in GOT. Can anyone tell me where
Chris from Skins / The Armourer's aprentice / Robert's bastard son / the guy the red woman leeched blood from
is anymore?

With Brienne on the outskirts of Winterfell, unless I've gotten the characters well and truly confused. Isn't he her squire now?

16-06-2015 08:38AM

molloyjh wrote: »

With Brienne on the outskirts of Winterfell, unless I've gotten the characters well and truly confused. Isn't he her squire now?

You've gotten them well and truly confused. Last we saw of him, he was released by the Onion Knight on a small row boat.

b.gud · 16-06-2015 08:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've 'lost' a character in GOT. Can anyone tell me where
Chris from Skins / The Armourer's aprentice / Robert's bastard son / the guy the red woman leeched blood from
is anymore?

He hasn't been seen in the show since Ser Davos set him off in the boat for Kings landing

molloyjh wrote: »

With Brienne on the outskirts of Winterfell, unless I've gotten the characters well and truly confused. Isn't he her squire now?

Nope that's Pod, he was Tyrions squire and saved him at the battle of blackwater

b.gud · 16-06-2015 08:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've 'lost' a character in GOT. Can anyone tell me where
Chris from Skins / The Armourer's aprentice / Robert's bastard son / the guy the red woman leeched blood from
is anymore?

This is an image that isn't really a spoiler, it's more funny, but just in case I won't embed it

http://i.imgur.com/1SJ09vc.png

Buer · 16-06-2015 08:52AM

molloyjh wrote: »

With Brienne on the outskirts of Winterfell, unless I've gotten the characters well and truly confused. Isn't he her squire now?

They do look similar but, as others have said, different character. He was sent off by Davos when Stannis wanted him killed. We're going back to around season 2 here so not sure we need spoilers!

I'm sure he has a significant role to play at some point. The fact is that he's the only one that has a strong claim to the throne aside from Daenerys (and I'm so hoping a dragon gets bored and takes her head off).

Buer · 16-06-2015 10:17AM

Is anyone following this Rachel Dolezal case?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/americas/woman-who-pretended-to-be-black-sued-university-for-antiwhite-discrimination-31305097.html

I suspect she has some pretty significant mental issues and hopefully gets her life together.

But I do have to laugh at the NAACP actually appointing her to a position of influence. Her facial features aren't even consistent with someone who is black. For all the world, she looks like a white person with a little fake tan and a bad hair do.

.ak · 16-06-2015 10:21AM

Buer wrote: »

Is anyone following this Rachel Dolezal case?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/americas/woman-who-pretended-to-be-black-sued-university-for-antiwhite-discrimination-31305097.html

I suspect she has some pretty significant mental issues and hopefully gets her life together.

But I do have to laugh at the NAACP actually appointing her to a position of influence. Her facial features aren't even consistent with someone who is black. For all the world, she looks like a white person with a little fake tan and a bad hair do.

Yeah she's obviously white.

But I don't get what the big issue is? In a world where it's apparently 'white dominated' then a white person assuming the role of a black person whilst petitioning for racial equality is surely a bit of a martyr and quite brave?

That's my rough understanding of it, obviously these things are viewed very differently across the pond.

Podge_irl · 16-06-2015 10:23AM

There is no requirement for a person in her role to actually be black so it's not like it was necessary.

It does pose some interesting questions about self-identifying etc.

dregin · 16-06-2015 11:00AM

.ak wrote: »

Yeah she's obviously white.

But I don't get what the big issue is? In a world where it's apparently 'white dominated' then a white person assuming the role of a black person whilst petitioning for racial equality is surely a bit of a martyr and quite brave?

That's my rough understanding of it, obviously these things are viewed very differently across the pond.

With .ak on this. I really don't see what the big deal is at all.

Buer · 16-06-2015 11:12AM

In principle, there is nothing wrong with it. In reality, we all know that the NAACP would never have appointed her to her role nor would the members have approved of her being involved as an official if they were aware of her background. The reason this has blown up isn't the fact that she's white. It's that she pretended to be black and clearly amended her appearance to make her seem black. If she had simply joined the organisation as a white person and worked her way up to her role, it wouldn't have been any issue at all. It also never would have happened.

I don't see her as brave, I see her as having some identity issues that she needs to deal with. It's not like she grew up thinking she was black. She sued a college before for discriminating against her for being white.

Obviously it should be a case of the best candidate should be in that role but we all know that's not the world we live in. She misrepresented herself and lied to get into the role.

I don't think it's a matter of it being across the pond. The National Women's Council of Ireland doesn't have a single male on their committee and I doubt people would expect there to be any.

Teferi · 16-06-2015 11:41AM

The Rachel Dolezal story is my favourite story of the year. Of course she has mental issues but it's absolutely hilarious at the same time. I can't believe she effectively black faced up.

Wang King · 16-06-2015 12:00PM

The woman is well capable of doing the job, if she identifies herself as being of a different ethnic background, so what, in today's world we can change our gender, why not our race

Clearlier · 16-06-2015 12:09PM

Wang King wrote: »

The woman is well capable of doing the job, if she identifies herself as being of a different ethnic background, so what, in today's world we can change our gender, why not our race

I think you'll find on closer examination that race is determined at an earlier stage than gender and has somewhat less room for biological error.

irishbucsfan · 16-06-2015 12:19PM

Wang King wrote: »

The woman is well capable of doing the job, if she identifies herself as being of a different ethnic background, so what, in today's world we can change our gender, why not our race

Do you really think she's well capable of doing the job?

16-06-2015 12:21PM

Clearlier wrote: »

I think you'll find on closer examination that race is determined at an earlier stage than gender and has somewhat less room for biological error.

Michael Jackson begs to differ

molloyjh · 16-06-2015 01:53PM

.ak wrote: »

Yeah she's obviously white.

But I don't get what the big issue is? In a world where it's apparently 'white dominated' then a white person assuming the role of a black person whilst petitioning for racial equality is surely a bit of a martyr and quite brave?

That's my rough understanding of it, obviously these things are viewed very differently across the pond.

She "blacked up", claimed to be black (after trying to sue a university for discriminating against her for being white) and claimed a black man she was pictured with was her father when he wasn't.

There is absolutely no issue with a white person working for the NAACP or anything like that. There is an issue with having someone who is either a compulsive liar or mentally ill as a face of your organisation.

Personally I just want to know what Liam Williams makes of all of this after the abuse he got for his Halloween costume! :pac:

stephen_n · 16-06-2015 02:02PM

Wonder will her picture appear beside the term wigger in urban dictionaries.

Bridge93 · 16-06-2015 02:09PM

5 Irish J1 students killed in Berkeley after a balcony collapses. 8 seriously injured too.

Stheno · 16-06-2015 03:42PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

5 Irish J1 students killed in Berkeley after a balcony collapses. 8 seriously injured too.

Dreadful news, God love their families.

The Lost Sheep · 16-06-2015 04:09PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

5 Irish J1 students killed in Berkeley after a balcony collapses. 8 seriously injured too.

Horrible news. Son of a work colleague of my dad's was in the apartment at the time...

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