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!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

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    #602
    gracew
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭gracew


    do people think it's a long shot getting a question on jealousy for othello?


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    #603
    BlueWolf16
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭BlueWolf16


    What are the comparatives by the way. We have three done - Vision and Viewpoint, Literary Genre and Theme of Violence..

    But what are the main headings for each?? I know Literary Genre - Narration, Narrative structure, Dialogue, Tension&suspense and Imagery/symbolism. But whats for theme?


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    #604
    Gem957
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭Gem957


    Are the only irish poets on our course montague, ni chuilleanain and yeats?


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    #605
    Kremin
    Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Kremin


    BlueWolf16 wrote: »
    What are the comparatives by the way. We have three done - Vision and Viewpoint, Literary Genre and Theme of Violence..

    But what are the main headings for each?? I know Literary Genre - Narration, Narrative structure, Dialogue, Tension&suspense and Imagery/symbolism. But whats for theme?

    I think with theme you just cover 4 or 5 key moments/scenes in each text...

    G.V.V is how optimistic stories are so characters outlook etc/


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    #606
    sarah_97
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭sarah_97


    Can someone please kindly post a sample answer of an unseen poem from any year. Question B (20marks).

    Would really appreciate it. Thanks


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    #607
    BlueWolf16
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭BlueWolf16


    Kremin wrote: »
    Who did the elderly question B? I made up every single text and poem I used as an example, I really hope it wasn't supposed to be true :p.

    Also, just reading over Robert Frost's poetry and I gotta say, I wish I paid more attention in class for Frost, such an amazing poet. I'll legit cry if he doesnt come up tomorrow.. in frost I hope.

    #Frost2015 haha. My favorite poet as well, Donne is great too, but hard to learn. Frost is my main poet, he's quite likely to come up as far as I know, so, fingers crossed !!


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    #608
    Magnate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Magnate


    sarah_97 wrote: »
    Can someone please kindly post a sample answer of an unseen poem from any year. Question B (20marks).

    Would really appreciate it. Thanks

    2013

    The Fist

    The fist clenched round my heart
    loosens a little, and I gasp
    brightness; but it tightens
    again. When have I ever not loved
    the pain of love? But this has moved

    past love to mania. This has the strong
    clench of the madman, this is
    gripping the ledge of unreason, before
    plunging howling into the abyss.

    Hold hard then, heart. This way at least you live.

    Derek Walcott
    1. (a) Walcott expresses powerful emotions in this poem. Choose one emotion present
    in the poem and briefly explain how it is conveyed. Make reference to the text in
    support of your answer. (10)
    (b) Write a brief personal response to the final line of the poem.
    Hold hard then, heart. This way at least you live.
    Support your answer with reference to the poem. (10)

    OR

    2. Discuss the poet’s use of language in “The Fist”. Your answer should make close
    reference to the text. (20)

    1. (a) One emotion that is powerfully conveyed in this poem is fear descending into terror. The poem begins with images of hope and brightness but tension is introduced as soon as the poet describes the fist tightening round his heart.

    When Walcott mentions ‘mania’ in his poem, the emotion of fear takes over and is conveyed through a panicked tone and a haunting image of ‘the strong clench of the madman… gripping the ledge of unreason’. Walcott fears the slip into insanity, which could come with love and there is terror in his image of himself ‘plunging howling into the abyss’. The run-on lines give the impression of his sanity running away from him, to terrifying effect.

    1. (b) When I read the last line of the poem, I feel pity for the poet as he has been so damaged by love in the past and he is terrified of ever loving again. ‘Hold hard then, heart’ is a cold, stony image, which contrasts with the warmth and affection usually associated with the word ‘heart’.

    The second sentence, ‘This way at least you live.’ seemed very sad and hopeless. The poet must shut out love in order to survive. He suggests that love could kill him so, in order to survive, he must harden his heart against love.

    Compared to the image of hope that appeared at the poem’s beginning, I find the last line very sad and final.

    Taken from e-xamit, no sample answer for part 2.


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    #609
    Kremin
    Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Kremin


    BlueWolf16 wrote: »
    #Frost2015 haha. My favorite poet as well, Donne is great too, but hard to learn. Frost is my main poet, he's quite likely to come up as far as I know, so, fingers crossed !!

    If frost doesnt come up Donne is my goto guy. Dont know any other poets lol


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    #610
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    is it possible to get away with learning 3 poets. I'm doing Hardy, Ni Chuill and Montague.


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    #611
    BlueWolf16
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭BlueWolf16


    Elemonator wrote: »
    is it possible to get away with learning 3 poets. I'm doing Hardy, Ni Chuill and Montague.

    Let's be honest, Plath is never going to come up 3 years in a row. That leaves 7 poets.. 3/7 ? Possible, yes, but if you do that, I think it's safest to learn the most popular poets, and from the above three, one will come up out of them, imo. Do Frost too, he's likely aswell


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    #612
    k88
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭k88


    I've doen Montague, Frost, Hardy and Ni Chuill...There's no chance they'd put 3 poets from last year and Donne on the paper is there? :P

    Also kinda banking on Literary Genre...Hate Theme and Issue and General Vision.


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    #613
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    BlueWolf16 wrote: »
    Let's be honest, Plath is never going to come up 3 years in a row. That leaves 7 poets.. 3/7 ? Possible, yes, but if you do that, I think it's safest to learn the most popular poets, and from the above three, one will come up out of them, imo. Do Frost too, he's likely aswell

    Thanks!


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    #614
    OMGeary
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    Will laugh if Plath comes up tomorrow.


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    #615
    Pacman96
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Pacman96


    BlueWolf16 wrote: »
    Let's be honest, Plath is never going to come up 3 years in a row. That leaves 7 poets.. 3/7 ? Possible, yes, but if you do that, I think it's safest to learn the most popular poets, and from the above three, one will come up out of them, imo. Do Frost too, he's likely aswell

    I actually think that plath will come up , they always want to trick us , everybody is banking on ENC but I have a feeling they will put on plath. People thought that she wont come up twice in a row but she did so why shouldnt she come up again?


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    #616
    IrishLoriii
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    Poetry- Montague, Frost and Hardy..i might read over Dickinson but not go too crazy on her
    Comparative- Im going with the theme of relationships and I have an essay wrote out on the general vision
    and viewpoint although I don't know if its ok like we never did it in class.
    Othello- Praying for the role of women or a nice Iago question I haven't studied imagery and symbolism maybe
    I should look over it :/


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    #617
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Does anybody have the sample answers for hardy/frost from the institute? I do have my student ID so i can prove that you aren't breaking the copyright!


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    #618
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    IrishLoriii wrote: »
    Poetry- Montague, Frost and Hardy..i might read over Dickinson but not go too crazy on her
    Comparative- Im going with the theme of relationships and I have an essay wrote out on the general vision
    and viewpoint although I don't know if its ok like we never did it in class.
    Othello- Praying for the role of women or a nice Iago question I haven't studied imagery and symbolism maybe
    I should look over it :/

    What did you get in the mock if you don't mind me asking? We're in the same boat....


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    #619
    IrishLoriii
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    Elemonator wrote: »
    What did you get in the mock if you don't mind me asking? We're in the same boat....

    I got a B2 but that was completely my own fault because I completely messed up paper 1 and wrote a short story but titled it as a personal essay (stupidly not knowing the difference) and got marked way down for purpose! I would kill for an A in English but I honestly don't think my vocabulary or grammer is up to A standard :/


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    #620
    gracew
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭gracew


    Do quotes need to be used in comparative answer?


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    #621
    IrishLoriii
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    gracew wrote: »
    Do quotes need to be used in comparative answer?

    Yes!! You always need quotes even have about 8 overall but you NEED quotes :eek:


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    Pacman96
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Pacman96


    Anyone have any idea what the question on frost could be?


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    #623
    Kremin
    Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Kremin


    gracew wrote: »
    Do quotes need to be used in comparative answer?

    You need to backup almost everything you say in the english exam :p.

    SDQ
    SDQ
    SDQ
    SDQ

    Statement-Development-Quote.. only thing i ever heard in English.

    The comparative doesn't need as much detail as the Single Text but it definitely still requires quotes.


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    #624
    RobynneMarie
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭RobynneMarie


    dose anyone have any good links for women in othello.i was missing the day we did it in class and never got the notes. thank u


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    #625
    gracew
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭gracew


    IrishLoriii wrote: »
    Yes!! You always need quotes even have about 8 overall but you NEED quotes :eek:

    Thank you! And how many quotes do you recommend for poetry?


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    #626
    RobynneMarie
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭RobynneMarie


    dose anyone have any links to any good notes regarding women and the role they play etc. in Othello. we never covered it in class
    IrishLoriii wrote: »
    Poetry- Montague, Frost and Hardy..i might read over Dickinson but not go too crazy on her
    Comparative- Im going with the theme of relationships and I have an essay wrote out on the general vision
    and viewpoint although I don't know if its ok like we never did it in class.
    Othello- Praying for the role of women or a nice Iago question I haven't studied imagery and symbolism maybe
    I should look over it :/

    do you have a link to any good notes regarding the role of women pease


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    #627
    k0tryy
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭k0tryy


    RobynneMarie wrote: »
    dose anyone have any good links for women in othello.i was missing the day we did it in class and never got the notes. thank u

    Smartenglish.com.au have specific notes on women in othello but it won't let me post an image !


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    #628
    GoodbyeMrA
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭GoodbyeMrA


    Anyone else kinda relying on very specific things? I'm completely banking on Frost/Montague, Theme/Issue and Iago. Otherwise I'm completely sausage sandwiched.


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    #629
    Mihan87
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭Mihan87


    is it possible for GVP to come up since there has been a continuous pattern every year with theme & issue?


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    #630
    Patsy6546
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭Patsy6546


    Most people confident for the othello question , to be on the role of women?


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    #631
    Event_horizon
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭Event_horizon


    GoodbyeMrA wrote: »
    Anyone else kinda relying on very specific things? I'm completely banking on Frost/Montague, Theme/Issue and Iago. Otherwise I'm completely sausage sandwiched.

    Im too chicken **** to rely on whatever seems most likely, thats why Im studying other stuff as back up
    Also, this might seem late to ask, but everyone's talking about Comparative, banking on Literary Genre, Theme/Issue etc. but in the Comparative, don't they give you choice?
    Like, Literary Genre do part A or B, OR do Theme/Issue part A or B? Like it's not just ONE theme that comes up - it'll be Literary Genre and Theme/Issue or Theme/Issue and GVV etc.? Sorry I just wanna make sure because everyone is banking on something but Im not too worried about it because you get a choice, it'll be a combination of two themes, unless something changed?


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