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!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    Donne
    Frost
    that's all we've done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    We have done:
    Dickinson
    Plath
    Frost
    Montague
    Yeats

    I'm going studying the top 4 and perhaps Hardy. God damn you Plath coming up last year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Peg14


    We've done Montague, Frost, Yeats and Dickinson. I like them all EXCEPT Montague, his poetry is the most pointless, boring stuff ever (imo) The only poem I do from him like is Killing the Pig cause it gives me lots to write about :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭d1234


    We've done:

    Frost
    Yeats
    Plath
    Dickinson
    Montague

    Really liked Frost and ... fingers crossed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    Wow I seem to have covered so little :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    We've done Montague and Donne...

    One of my friends has a theory that Montague's "The Trout" is about him masturbating in the bath. I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭xLisaBx


    Lads ye know there's gonna be no plath. Might aswell just have 7 poets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    xLisaBx wrote: »
    Lads ye know there's gonna be no plath. Might aswell just have 7 poets

    Most likely won't have Dickinson either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭xLisaBx


    Most likely won't have Dickinson either

    True story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    Most likely won't have Dickinson either

    That's what they said with Plath last year ;)

    Heaney is definitely coming up this year lads, I can feel it!


    Nah Montague/Frost ftw!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    Heaney isn't on our course.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Is mise John


    Ive covered : Plath, Donne, Yeats and Frost . Also did 2 poems of ni chuileanain. Dickson and Plath probably won't be up. Good chance Eilean ni chuilleanain will tho :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    And I hate her poetry with a passion
    Hi is mise john I'm is mise Spartacus :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    Heaney isn't on our course.....

    Whaa.... you mean I've been studying Heaney for no reason at all...bo*locks! :pac:


    Haven't even done Ní Chuileanain and I hate her with a passion, horrible stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭is mise spartacus


    Poets Prescribed for Higher Level:

    DICKINSON, Emily (4)
    DONNE, John (1)
    FROST, Robert (2)
    HARDY, Thomas
    MONTAGUE, John
    NÍ CHUILLEANÁIN, Eiléan
    PLATH, Sylvia (3)
    YEATS, William

    I'll probably just do those 4 because I really don't like the rest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭PeterJC!


    So far we've done Dickinson, Yeats and Ní Chuilleanáin, I'd say that there's a fair chance of Ní Chuilleanáin coming up. Rue the day when there isn't a woman on the paper; plus she's Irish. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 Oozamine


    My teachers convined that Montague and ENC will come up.
    Dont know why people dont like Montague, i feel his poetry is the easiest to get your head around and straight forward enough quotes !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭The Adversary


    Eilean Ni Chuilleanain is well overdue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Peg14


    Oozamine wrote: »
    My teachers convined that Montague and ENC will come up.
    Dont know why people dont like Montague, i feel his poetry is the easiest to get your head around and straight forward enough quotes !

    My teacher too. And its not exactly that with Montague, i think because he is so straightforward, i find his poetry boring to talk about or like i just find myself summarising instead of find a meaning or whatever :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    Montague ftw lads!
    Such an easy poet :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭d1234


    How do ye guys learn poetry? The last thing I want to do is match up the wrong poet with the wrong poem!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Anonymagician


    We've done Plath, Dickinson, Frost and Ní Chuilleanáin. We're going to do Montague and Yeats, I think.

    Surely Plath or Dickinson wouldn't appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    d1234 wrote: »
    How do ye guys learn poetry? The last thing I want to do is match up the wrong poet with the wrong poem!
    After a while Im sure you'll know which goes to who? Like you will be writing several full essays on each throughout the year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 621 ✭✭✭if832uspx4eogt


    ENC is almost a dead set. She's Irish and a woman!

    Hopefully John Donne doesn't show up, his poetry is a pile of ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    I've done Frost, Plath and Dickinson so far. Favourite so far would have to be Frost. Will be doing Montague and Ní Chuileanán.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    cant remember what the teacher said so how many women + men poets do we have to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    cant remember what the teacher said so how many women + men poets do we have to do?

    There is 8 poets on the course and 4 come up on the paper. If you do 5 you're guaranteed at least one will come up. Every year there is always a female poet and Irish poet hence why ENC is well tipped to come up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    Blue giant wrote: »
    There is 8 poets on the course and 4 come up on the paper. If you do 5 you're guaranteed at least one will come up. Every year there is always a female poet and Irish poet hence why ENC is well tipped to come up.
    thanks for your post, also i remember him mentioning about learning a number of poets and you'll be sorted type of thing, can you care to explain? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    thanks for your post, also i remember him mentioning about learning a number of poets and you'll be sorted type of thing, can you care to explain? :o

    I just did :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 LCK97


    we've done Plath, Dickinson, Frost and Chuilleanain, female and irish poet usually comes up so Chuilleanain seems like a safe enough bet:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭AulBiddy


    We've done Frost, Plath, Dickinson, Montague, Ni Chuilleanain, Hardy, Yeats and Donne. Our teacher wants us to cover all the poets.. frankly I think its a waste of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭oktplz


    Guys was just wondering how ye write your poetry essays?
    Am looking for a high grade in English but I write my essays in the following format:
    Intro
    Poem 1
    Poem 2
    Poem 3
    Poem 4...
    Conclusion.
    Is there a better way to write the essay that will maximise my grade, (I get A's with this style anyway but not sure if it's just our teachers preference)
    Please help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Frigating


    oktplz wrote: »
    Guys was just wondering how ye write your poetry essays?
    Am looking for a high grade in English but I write my essays in the following format:
    Intro
    Poem 1
    Poem 2
    Poem 3
    Poem 4...
    Conclusion.
    Is there a better way to write the essay that will maximise my grade, (I get A's with this style anyway but not sure if it's just our teachers preference)
    Please help!

    It depends on the question. For some I might do it by technique, or if the question has two sections (eg style and subject matter) I'll do it by that. For others I do it by poem. I personally worry about repeating myself constantly if I only have a bit to say on how a technique is used or on a poem, but the way you structure your essay is fine. I think doing it by poem is easiest, but it can depend on the poet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭oktplz


    Thank you so much, omg i was so worried that I was doing it wrong :D
    I'm the same and also scared of not going into enough depth if I do it the other way, thanks so much for the reply, I think for the most part I'll stick to poem by poem unless it's an absolute necessary to go the other way...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭d1234


    Agree with ye on the subject of type of question asked. However, it's now harm to give a brief referral to one of the other poems studied e.g. if you are discussing the poem The Locket by Montague give a little cut as to how it differs to The Cage. The main thing to remember about poetry is personal reflection! But otherwise that strategy is good :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭oktplz


    Thanks d1234, you've really cleared things up for me :)
    While we've here guys, what's your predictions for the Othello question? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 cookiecutter99


    kcull wrote: »
    English
    - literary genre for comparative (been yonks)
    I havent done literary genre but hope gvvp doesnt come up and instead theme comes up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Katie97123


    Do you not think Ni chuilleanain will come up? And were the papers not made in like November before Charlie Hebdo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 cookiecutter99


    Katie97123 wrote: »
    Do you not think Ni chuilleanain will come up? And were the papers not made in like November before Charlie Hebdo?
    Our english class had not done Ni chuilleanain and i might be wrong but werent the papers finalised 1st/2nd week of january?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Katie97123


    Ok! And we were told November, but you're probs right! Terrorism could probably come up anyway regardless of Charlie Hebdo I'd say!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Does anyone know what poets are coming up in 2016? Since it's Ni Chuileanain's first year, she might instead make an appearance on the 2016 one. I'd love it if Plath or Dickinson come up, the other poets we've done are a bit of a snooze sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Plath, Dickinson and Yeats came up last year. It was Plath's second year in a row. Obviously nothing can be ruled out completely but if you were going to leave poets out, it'd be those. Ní Chuilleanáin is a seemingly safe bet but I also feel like Montague and Frost would be there.

    Oh, I did not realise that Plath cane up two years in a row! They won't play the same trick twice on a female poet in successive years so. Looks like they probably won't appear because of that. Maybe they might decide not to have that system of one poet per category.. Especially since a load of people studied the exact same poet because he was the only one in his category last year. I just don't think she'll come up, but I think it's wishful thinking lol thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 BoyceLeaving15


    hafsa_28 wrote: »
    I havent done literary genre but hope gvvp doesnt come up and instead theme comes up

    Yeah we're studying Theme/Issue and Lit Genre and I find theme so much easier to write on. Basically retelling the story by referencing the scenes that the theme is seen in. Fingers crossed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭kamiljkamil


    I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
    Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
    Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
    Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
    Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam

    Too risky! Both could easily not come up. Maybe if you really wanted to do only two poets you could do Montague and Yeats or Nu Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. Either way, still very risky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭kamiljkamil


    Too risky! Both could easily not come up. Maybe if you really wanted to do only two poets you could do Montague and Yeats or Nu Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. Either way, still very risky.

    Yeah I suppose you are right. I mean I have 6 poets studied very well but would like to focus on those 2 real well just before the exam 😄


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Yeah I suppose you are right. I mean I have 6 poets studied very well but would like to focus on those 2 real well just before the exam 😄

    Oh yeah I Thought you were going all out on those two! I'll probably specialise in one or Two as well, and have five studied.

    I Think it might be better if you were to specialise in two similar poets, like, as I said, Montague and Yeats, or Donne, Frost and Hardy or Dickinson and Ni Chuilleanáin. Hardy and Ni Chuilleanáin don't link and both can come up the same time and also both could not come up.

    But, if they're your favourite, then go for it, but maybe do another one alongside. I'll be doing Plath just because she's interesting even though she has such a low chance of coming up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 cookiecutter99


    I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
    Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
    Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam

    Our techer told us Thomas Hardy has a high chance as he wasnt on the course since the last 2/3 years and he is not on the course for another 2 year after us.Also john Montague has a very high chance...but only learning 2 poets is very risky as people predicted Seamus Heaney to come up in the poetry section in 2014 but he came up in the reading comprehensation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭kamiljkamil


    hafsa_28 wrote: »
    Our techer told us Thomas Hardy has a high chance as he wasnt on the course since the last 2/3 years and he is not on the course for another 2 year after us.Also john Montague has a very high chance...but only learning 2 poets is very risky as people predicted Seamus Heaney to come up in the poetry section in 2014 but he came up in the reading comprehensation

    Oh yeah definitely learning just two is basically suicide 😃 But yeah what you are saying is true I really hope for either Chuilleanain,Hardy or Donne to appear as I know them inside out and love their poetry
    But then again even looking at past papers you can always be wrong even if everything points that this poet is coming up for definite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Mahmoudsaid_1


    Ni chuilleanain for english and Interential statistics for maths


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