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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2762
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Absolutely embarrassing stuff by the Independent this morning photo shopping that picture. How anybody can take that paper seriously now is beyond me :pac::pac:

    It's been proven to be real you do know that right?

    Also this post here highlights exactly what Guy:incognito is talking about


  • #2763
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Absolutely embarrassing stuff by the Independent this morning photo shopping that picture. How anybody can take that paper seriously now is beyond me :pac::pac:

    Not sure if serious.


  • #2764
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Funny the way they have the moan in the direct line of the brick in mid flight ok....

    http://directdemocracyireland.ie/irish-independent-prints-shocking-faked-propaganda-story-anti-water-protesters/

    Do they think were stupid? How bad is that of a photo shop :eek:


  • #2765
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Gringo180 wrote: »
    http://directdemocracyireland.ie/irish-independent-prints-shocking-faked-propaganda-story-anti-water-protesters/

    Do they think were stupid? How bad is that of a photo shop :eek:

    Na, I meant the one on the Sindo's website this morning with the equally sensational headline....



    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-week-that-shook-republic-to-its-core-30748154.html

    When is an inset picture ever published like that? At an angle, in the line of fire.
    They can't even write the article without referencing Sinn Fein 4 or 5 times.


  • #2766
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It sort of mirrors the scenario around the incident in Dundalk. Every point was countered by "what do you think of the old man's genitals being power hosed".

    The discussion will move on, but for the time being a lot of concentration is being put on the events yesterday.

    That keeps getting brought up, because many on here seem to be confused as to who was assaulting whom tbh.

    There is an edited version of the video, with the sensationalist title "Dundalk men attack Irish Water staff" and has the very start (were he gets power hosed in the crotch) edited out.

    That's why it keeps being brought up (imo)
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    My point is , as I posted earlier , its the defence that seem to be keeping this one going. The only posts coming up on my facebook are people shareing the false story about it being a shopped photo with plenty of comments denying its real, denying it happened or saying its a Gard in disguise.

    There are other sources for the story too and pages condeming it as photoshopped lies. DDI just happened to be the most convenient source when I went to facebook to get it.

    Ok, that's fair enough.

    I don't bother that much with Facebook (yeah, I've an account) but I seen it on the revolution in Ireland, we're they quickly pointed out that the picture was legitimate.

    FWIW, I hope the brick thrower is apprehended, and dealt with accordingly. Little gurrier bollox and nothing less.


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  • #2767
    howiya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Ive said it before on the thread, getting people to support the idea of not having another bill in the door isn't hard. Educating them on why you should pay for water is a much more difficult job.

    Educating them as to why they have to pay for water twice appears to be an even tougher sell


  • #2768
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Gringo180 wrote: »
    http://directdemocracyireland.ie/irish-independent-prints-shocking-faked-propaganda-story-anti-water-protesters/

    Do they think were stupid? How bad is that of a photo shop :eek:

    Surely you are just trolling now? The picture is not fake


  • #2769
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Apparently it was a misunderstanding, it was only a game


  • #2770
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    VinLieger wrote: »
    Surely you are just trolling now? The picture is not fake

    What do you think of the sindo's one with the moan in the direct line of the brick?


  • #2771
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    listermint wrote: »
    Its funny, You are going to try getting a few more days out of some tool that threw a brick. Hes probably the same type of edgit that throws them at Dublin Bus in the area.
    .

    Its less about the guy that threw the brick and more about the hoards of seemingly normal people that are continuing to say its photoshopped or an undercover guard and refusing to accept evidence.

    There just so much ill-informed opinion floating around its unreal. A girl in work only a couple of days ago started giving out about how Denis O'Brien owns Irish Water. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for people to educate themselves. If they hear it on facebook it must be rue.


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  • #2772
    GetWithIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Surely the last straw?!

    Irish Water is watching you - from above
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irish-water-is-watching-you-from-above-30748153.html
    One resident who contacted the Sunday Independent has revealed how a company employee admitted viewing his house using Google Earth maps while he was inside talking to her on the phone.
    ...
    He said: "I spoke to a woman and gave her my name and address, but she couldn't find the location on their records. I gave her very specific directions and she then asked me: 'Is your house white?'
    "I was about to ask her how she knew that, when she asked me if I had a black door. I said 'Yes, I'm standing right behind it'."


  • #2773
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Banjo String wrote: »
    Apparently it was a misunderstanding, it was only a game

    Which one is the prick?


  • #2774
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/independent-brick-photoshop-1782706-Nov2014/


  • #2775
    Gringo180
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Na, I meant the one on the Sindo's website this morning with the equally sensational headline....



    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-week-that-shook-republic-to-its-core-30748154.html

    When is an inset picture ever published like that? At an angle, in the line of fire.
    They can't even write the article without referencing Sinn Fein 4 or 5 times.

    "The week that shook the Republic to its core" :pac::pac:

    Embarrassing.


  • #2776
    howiya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Banjo String wrote: »
    Paul murphy should be commended imo.

    A shining example of a TD actually working in behalf of the people who voted him in.

    I don't like Paul Murphy purely on the basis that he doesn't live in the area he represents but to be fair to him he hasn't forgot where his constituency is. The only time we saw his predecessor was on posters for the European elections


  • #2777
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/independent-brick-photoshop-1782706-Nov2014/

    We've established that a brick was thrown.
    How many times do you want to repeat it?


  • #2778
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    howiya wrote: »
    Educating them as to why they have to pay for water twice appears to be an even tougher sell

    Evidently. people believe what they want (see the various subjects such as "paying twice", "human rights" " dOB owns IW")


  • #2779
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Evidently. people believe what they want (see the various subjects such as "paying twice", "human rights" " dOB owns IW")

    People should question everything, from both sides.
    Knowledge is king.


  • #2780
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    GetWithIt wrote: »
    Surely the last straw?!

    Irish Water is watching you - from above
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irish-water-is-watching-you-from-above-30748153.html
    Is the curry shop "watching you" if the delivery guy using google maps on his phone to find your house?


  • #2781
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Is the curry shop "watching you" if the delivery guy using google maps on his phone to find your house?

    Is he trying to sign you up for a water tax?


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  • #2782
    eug87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭eug87


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Amount of tit for tat here is ridiculous.
    This thread is nothing more then looking for the biggest stick to hit each other with.

    Agendas are clearly on most posters with FG/FF/SF/LAB/IND supports cheering or booing like a football crowd.
    Agree to disagree
    Protest in Jobstown was poorly handled by organisers.
    These miniature localised protests look like they were organized a hour or two before it starts, where was the local supervisors in high vis jackets to keep check on the locals behavior?

    Gardai(which have a bit task on their hands with water protests) looked unorganized stretched at the start of the protest resulting in Joan being held for two hours until back up arrived to clear the scene.
    Why haven't the Gardai copped on from the previous week of big scuffles with protesters at Northwood,Galway that something similar was waiting to happen in Jobstown?

    Media are in a frenzy over a hand full of idiotic locals looking for attention including a kid that threw a brick at the Gardai.

    Missed the last two water protests but a handful of idiots at yesterdays protest wont sway me away from the 10th of Dec and I'm speaking as someone with no affiliation with any party.


  • #2783
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Is he trying to sign you up for a water tax?

    The homeowner contacted IrIsh water, gave her address and IW couldn't find it.What is wrong with looking the house up on google maps to confirm its the right one?

    How is it different to you ringing the curry shop, them not being able to find the house and using google maps?

    Should they have spent money looking it up a different way so you could give out about that too?


  • #2784
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    People should question everything, from both sides.
    Knowledge is king.

    He doesn't care. He doesn't want to question anything. He has no will to ask anything of those that represent him.

    Ignorance is bliss actually.

    It doesn't surprise me that there are those out there that do not feel the need to educate themselves on matters instead resort to daily mail style posts. And respond with nothing short of Lack lustre content.

    Its not debate it's a roundabout with certain posters. They set the stall out weeks ago they don't have responses to facts or figures and they don't care a jot for how their money is being spent. And they roll out terms like lesser of two evils with not control to justify their stance or comment.


    Tiresome roundabout.


    Did anyone hear some lad threw a brick yesterday? Mad stuff altogether


  • #2785
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Banjo String wrote: »
    It was



    It also burnt a good bit of fuel over Dublin city on Oct 11th, yet the gards couldn't give an estimate of the people in attendance.

    Lol.



    Lol....

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2007/en/act/pub/0030/sec0022.html#sec22


    I cant even be bothered to reply to him anymore. He was asked a direct question by me to post the link for his claims and YET AGAIN he has glossed over that and refused to answer. I have supplied the act and even put it on my post in great detail but yet people like him still try to come back with "You're wrong" as their best response to seeing it in front of their eyes in black and white.
    Anyone, who when supplied with the facts that you and I have posted with regard to this trespass, who continue to dismiss it out of hand, well then Banjo they are to be ignored as they clearly are only here as spokespeople for IW and add nothing of any value to the debate at hand. :)


  • #2786
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    howiya wrote: »
    I don't like Paul Murphy purely on the basis that he doesn't live in the area he represents but to be fair to him he hasn't forgot where his constituency is. The only time we saw his predecessor was on posters for the European elections

    I don't vote for his particular party either, but he is proving to be a TD who is clearly working on behalf of the people who elected him, and listening to them.

    It has been pointed out by others that he's not from the area, I dont get the point or relevance of that though.

    He's a member of Dáil Éireann .


  • #2787
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I don't vote for his particular party either, but he is proving to be a TD who is clearly working on behalf of the people who elected him, and listening to them.

    It has been pointed out by others that he's not from the area, I dont get the point or relevance of that though.

    He's a member of Dáil Éireann .
    Same could have been said for Jackie Healy-Rae.

    The question is does Paul have a credible, realistic alternative approach we could have taken in the last 5 years?


  • #2788
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Evidently. people believe what they want (see the various subjects such as "paying twice", "human rights" " dOB owns IW")

    I could spend half an hour constructing a well nuanced post about how water is funded currently. I could draw comparisons with our VRT Vat collections in comparison to other EU States as people are at pains to compare our non dirext payment in comparisons.

    I could run through the history of a well connected business man who managed to pick up one of the largest utility contractors in the country at a song same company who owed you and me hundreds of millions of Euro. I could dicuss the closed system of the tendor for install and maintenance.

    I could speak to the appointment of newly retired County managers to an organisation charged with oversight of maintenance and collection of this utility. Same County managers who have option to retire with massive pensions but apparently only jumping when a new guaranteed position opened up in a hefty new semistate.

    I could talk endlessly on the board appointments, I could discuss the reuse of a meter kit that was end of lifed in another EU state for various reasons to do with the nature of the material and operation of the equipment.


    There are many other items that I could discuss and point out that are all factual and thread related but ultimately none of this matters because you and those that join your style of posting are not here to dicuss you are here to obfuscate the discussion, that as has been shown by your post style. Perhaps it is your role in the thread and I can deal with that. But don't try to dress it up as anythjng else. Id respect you more if you just owned up.


    Or you could step up to the line and actually address the posters who are giving you legitimate complaints concerns and facts


  • #2789
    El Horseboxo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Seen on Facebook that a lot of jobstown is without water this morning.


  • #2790
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Good post listermint.

    Pretty much flawless.


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  • #2791
    howiya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Banjo String wrote: »
    I don't vote for his particular party either, but he is proving to be a TD who is clearly working on behalf of the people who elected him, and listening to them.

    It has been pointed out by others that he's not from the area, I dont get the point or relevance of that though.

    He's a member of Dáil Éireann .

    I'd prefer to be represented by someone from the constituency and not just a lad that was parachuted in after losing his seat in Europe. He couldn't even vote
    in the by-election


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