Water meter protests

EazyD · 19-10-2014 12:07PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Gave me a great laugh thanks

What's there to laugh about? FG have lost a boatload of voters over the course of this year and many in the party are worried about their own prospects of re-election.

UCDVet · 19-10-2014 12:09PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The government will collapse and we'll be using "punt nua"(remember that, sure its stockpiled in the mint) by the start of 2013.

Reminds me of all the claims that the euro would collapse.

AlekSmart · 19-10-2014 12:13PM

FREETV wrote: »

Many more blockades need to happen.
You own the foothpaths in front of the houses.
It is called frontage and even grass that is growing there beside the footpaths outside is the owners or tenants responsibility to mow it.
It is your property that they are forcing installations of meters on without your permission and consent.

The issue,or problem FREETV,is that is exactly what's NOT happening.

The vast majority of installations are going ahead with little or no interest being shown by anybody,other than those householders lookin for an extra little bitta concrete here'n there

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However,in the past 24 Hours comes yet another example that Irish Water,as currently structured,is nothing more than a shambles....

THAT would be my focus for protest,and I very much hope this latest revelation becomes centre-stage in PR terms,immediately !!!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-water-call-out-charge-plans-revealed-645848.html

As a Citizen who had no real problem with complying with the return of the Irish Water form,today's news had decided me to do the opposite...I shall now wait and see....As far as I am concerned,the approved rate for the supply of domestic potable water INCLUDES any & all support and service work associated with it,other than any problems with the household plumbing itself which I fully accept as MY responsibility as it is now.

This latest revelation is yet another reason for the removal of John Tierney AND most of the Phil Hogan appointees to IW's managerial structure.

Irish Water,as currently structured,is significantly flawed and does NOT possess Management of sufficent proven competence and application to carry out their task.

From what I can see the lowest level of Irish Water Labouers are FAR more adept at performing their jobs than those senior management benefiting from "Performance Related Bonus Payments".

Little CuChulainn · 19-10-2014 12:21PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

The issue,or problem FREETV,is that is exactly what's NOT happening.

The vast majority of installations are going ahead with little or no interest being shown by anybody,other than those householders lookin for an extra little bitta concrete here'n there .

However,in the past 24 Hours comes yet another example that Irish Water,as currently structured,is nothing more than a shambles....

THAT would be my focus for protest,and I very much hope this latest revelation becomes centre-stage in PR terms,immediately !!!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-water-call-out-charge-plans-revealed-645848.html

As a Citizen who had no real problem with complying with the return of the Irish Water form,today's news had decided me to do the opposite...I shall now wait and see....As far as I am concerned,the approved rate for the supply of domestic potable water INCLUDES any & all support and service work associated with it,other than any problems with the household plumbing itself which I fully accept as MY responsibility as it is now.

This latest revelation is yet another reason for the removal of John Tierney AND most of the Phil Hogan appointees to IW's managerial structure.

Irish Water,as currently structured,is significantly flawed and does NOT possess Management of sufficent proven competence and application to carry out their task.

From what I can see the lowest level of Irish Water Labouers are FAR more adept at performing their jobs than those senior management benefiting from "Performance Related Bonus Payments".

They will fix your first leak on your property for free. After that it's up to you. Why would you have thought they would be maintaining your pipes?

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 12:25PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

They will fix your first leak on your property for free.

Source?
A recent one.

Guy:Incognito · 19-10-2014 12:32PM

FREETV wrote: »

You own the foothpaths in front of the houses.
It is called frontage and even grass that is growing there beside the footpaths outside is the owners or tenants responsibility to mow it.
It is your property that they are forcing installations of meters on without your permission and consent.

Where are you getting that rubbish from?

Does everyone with a lamp post in front of their house own the lamp post too? Maybe they should be paying for the electricity to run it? What about Dublin Bus shelters for the people in the capital, does the homeowner own that too? How come its illegal to park on a footpath if you own it? How come none of the utility companies have to ask your permission to dig the paths? Sure why not extend your garden walls all the way to the road and use all of "your" land as garden?

Maybe I'lll stick a toll on the path outside my house and get some money in.

AlekSmart · 19-10-2014 01:10PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

They will fix your first leak on your property for free. After that it's up to you. Why would you have thought they would be maintaining your pipes?

You misunderstand my post.

Please re-read the relevant part....

As far as I am concerned,the approved rate for the supply of domestic potable water INCLUDES any & all support and service work associated with it,other than any problems with the household plumbing itself which I fully accept as MY responsibility as it is now.

Today's announcement relates to General Call-Out charges,with nothing specified as to the location of the problem.

The issue is really about Price-Gouging,with IW's domestic rate now set at a level towards the very top of EU norms,coupled with,a significant raft of added charges compensating for the lack of a Standing Charge...Irish Water can have one or the other,it cannot be allowed to have BOTH (Unless the RTE model is being used as it's template ?)

My belief is that going forward I shall willingly pay a FAIR price,BUT,I shall not willingly pay a charge already inflated to cover infrastructure and then more on top of that.....I'm afraid Mr Tierney needs to do a bit more to justify this policy ?

rubberdiddies · 19-10-2014 01:20PM

The first fix again is just spin.
I know two people so far who believe they have a leak as their meter is racking up the litres.

IW have told them to call a plumber to fix it or else pay for the reading as it is in January as they said they won't be introducing first fix till 2015.

Also IW are trying to implement a €188 call out fee and a large hourly fee after that.

And some people still insist on paying their bills when they come in January??

19-10-2014 01:21PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

They will fix your first leak on your property for free. After that it's up to you. Why would you have thought they would be maintaining your pipes?

Only one metre from property boundry. Having had cause to call Eircom out in the not too distant past to an elderly relative, they can only fix as far as the connection box inside the house. Any further and they have to charge. However, he recommended we hire an electrician as it would be cheaper than Eircoms charges!

Uncle Ruckus · 19-10-2014 08:03PM

Oh Lordy, the young of today sure have a mighty sense of Liberal self entitlement. Back in my day we just used our water to hose down hippies. First bath most of them ever had in their lives. Damn, ungrateful beatniks. You give them a free bath and they still want government hand outs...Lord have mercy...

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2014 08:06PM

Uncle Ruckus wrote: »

Oh Lordy, the young of today sure have a mighty sense of Liberal self entitlement. Back in my day we just used our water to hose down hippies. First bath most of them ever had in their lives. Damn, ungrateful beatniks. You give them a free bath and they still want government hand outs...Lord have mercy...

1950's Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>

Uncle Ruckus · 19-10-2014 08:15PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

1950's Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>

Well young 'un much like the Liffey the Mississippi full of sh!t as well and just because it was filtered through 20 thousand kindeys doesn't mean it is clean, in the 1950's we knew our water was clean because only Elvis was allowed swim in it

flutered · 19-10-2014 09:00PM

FREETV wrote: »

Anybody who can stand up, walk or wheel a wheelchair should attend any future protests and one should be held outside the Dail when the scum are there who are supposed to represent us all.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Protest-against-water-charges-in-the-republic-of-Ireland/213410058694008

Don't fall for the Irish Media spin and lies or the 100 Euro Tax Allowance.
It is a con.

the 100 tax allowance, the goverment is giving iw 100 for each eligible house, we ound out today their mentality

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 09:05PM

flutered wrote: »

the 100 tax allowance, the goverment is giving iw 100 for each eligible house, we ound out today their mentality

Don't claim it. It'll connect revenue to your water tax/charge.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2014 09:12PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Don't claim it. It'll connect revenue to your water tax/charge.

Paranoia replaces conspiracy theory itt :rolleyes:

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 09:22PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Paranoia replaces conspiracy theory itt :rolleyes:

Run along there....good chap.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2014 09:28PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Run along there....good chap.

Na

I'll just stay here debunking conspiracy and paranoia ta very much.

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 09:31PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The truth hurts, I guess

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you.
You've spent weeks on this thread now posting lies about other posters, myself included.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2014 09:35PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you.
You've spent weeks on this thread now posting lies about other posters, myself included.

Paranoia

http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/conditions/paranoia-and-paranoid-disorders

Symptoms of paranoia and paranoid disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion,

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 09:37PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Paranoia

http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/conditions/paranoia-and-paranoid-disorders

Liar.

liar
ˈlʌɪə/Submit
noun
a person who tells lies.
"the man was a notorious liar"
synonyms: deceiver, fibber, falsifier, teller of lies, teller of untruths, perjurer, false witness, fabricator, equivocator, prevaricator, spinner of yarns, Timberrrrrrrr; More

:P

19-10-2014 09:58PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Liar.

liar
ˈlʌɪə/Submit
noun
a person who tells lies.
"the man was a notorious liar"
synonyms: deceiver, fibber, falsifier, teller of lies, teller of untruths, perjurer, false witness, fabricator, equivocator, prevaricator, spinner of yarns, Timberrrrrrrr; More

:P

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Fr Ned.

Fr. Ned · 19-10-2014 10:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Fr Ned.

Does that even qualify as a proper post?
Anyway, if that guy wants to put up definitions of what he thinks I am, I'm allowed do the same......
If you go back through the thread you'll see the lies and smears he's put up about me.
I'm just calling him out on it.

19-10-2014 10:06PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Does that even qualify as a proper post?
Anyway, if that guy wants to put up definitions of what he thinks I am, I'm allowed do the same......
If you go back through the thread you'll see the lies and smears he's put up about me.
I'm just calling him out on it.

I'm just pointing out how childish some posts have become. Night night. I'll remember you in my prayers.

Dickie10 · 22-10-2014 08:23PM

this thread, like the water meter protests i see, have had their day. cant see their being any more solidarity marches either, irelands class split has left the protest weakened and so we will all pay water meters just like property tax end of story.

Highflyer13 · 22-10-2014 08:39PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

this thread, like the water meter protests i see, have had their day. cant see their being any more solidarity marches either, irelands class split has left the protest weakened and so we will all pay water meters just like property tax end of story.

100k marched through Dublin City a couple of weeks ago. Do not forget that.:rolleyes:

22-10-2014 09:16PM

Highflyer13 wrote: »

100k marched through Dublin City a couple of weeks ago. Do not forget that.:rolleyes:

Unfortunately that message is being lost by the behaviour of other so called peaceful protesters who are causing havoc in communities.

Dickie10 · 23-10-2014 12:01AM

"100,000" more like 60,000 at best. if that crowd had their way it would be like north korea giving exageratted reports all the time, "yes the nation has taken in 23 billion euro this year, now heres your food stamp comrade, good stankovhite!"

the dark phantom · 17-11-2014 12:54AM

jo06555 wrote: »

Is it true halting sites will not be getting water meters or charges?

Hell will freeze over before any halting sites accept meters. And it would cost a fortune in policing and security to attempt to install meters, which would only be smashed in the end anyway.

Those who choose to pay will have to make up the shortfall I suppose. A VATT Value Added Traveller Tax....

masculinist · 17-11-2014 02:06AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

"100,000" more like 60,000 at best. if that crowd had their way it would be like north korea giving exageratted reports all the time, "yes the nation has taken in 23 billion euro this year, now heres your food stamp comrade, good stankovhite!"

youve been reading too much of Tax Non Dom Bailedout Media™

SpaceTime · 17-11-2014 02:12AM

My concern is that I think there's always a tipping point when a general sense of discontentment can turn into the same kind of situation Mrs Thatcher created with Poll Tax - that turned very ugly for a while.

The Government is really walking too close to that side of the seesaw at the moment. I'm genuinely noticing more evidence that this is starting to snowball.

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