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2014 Free Agency

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    #512
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Cardinals sign Antonio Cromartie.
    How good is the NFC West :eek:


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    #513
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Ladies of Arizona... watch out.. the impregnator is about!


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    #514
    SameOleJay
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SameOleJay


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Cardinals sign Antonio Cromartie.
    How good is the NFC West :eek:

    The Rams will shop that 2nd pick for another ransom and, at that stage, you'll just have to pity the lot of them.


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    #515
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Cardinals sign Antonio Cromartie.
    How good is the NFC West :eek:

    Their secondary is very good. Extremely rangy and athletic.


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    #516
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Jared Allen to the Seahawks, per the usual sources.


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    #517
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Paully D wrote: »
    Jared Allen to the Seahawks, per the usual sources.

    Cant really look past them again this year


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    #518
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Might have our first on field NFL QB homicide if the Seahawks get their way.


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    #519
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    malistheman wrote: »
    Lafell is nothing special. I watched every Panthers game this year and he never really stood out.

    Means nothing to Brady though, the guy has spent his career transforming average WR's into good ones.


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    #520
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Paully D wrote: »
    Jared Allen to the Seahawks, per the usual sources.

    This is getting ridiculous, they should be banned from improving their D.:(


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    #521
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Fitzpatrick is signing with the texans, so he'll continue to throw balls to titans players..


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    #522
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    This is getting ridiculous, they should be banned from improving their D.:(

    Really shows the benefit of hitting on your mid round draft picks. Having Sherman, Chancellor, KJ Wright, Wagner & of course Russell Wilson on relatively small contracts gives you money to spend elsewhere


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    #523
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Really shows the benefit of hitting on your mid round draft picks. Having Sherman, Chancellor, KJ Wright, Wagner & of course Russell Wilson on relatively small contracts gives you money to spend elsewhere

    Their bubble might start bursting in 2015 when Sherman and Wright become Free Agents. Wagner & Wilson then follow in 2016. But when you think of the ridiculous money some CB's got this year. Sherman might feel like he's entiteld to take the front office to the cleaners. Of course luck might continue to go their, because the Cap ceiling is expected to rise significantly through to 2016.


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    #524
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Their bubble might start bursting in 2015 when Sherman and Wright become Free Agents. Wagner & Wilson then follow in 2016. But when you think of the ridiculous money some CB's got this year. Sherman might feel like he's entiteld to take the front office to the cleaners. Of course luck might continue to go their, because the Cap ceiling is expected to rise significantly through to 2016.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but under the new CBA rookies can re-negotiate contracts after 3 years. Barring a horror show Wilson is going to want to get paid next year as well. The band will certainly start to break up then.

    I love Richard Sherman but paying CB's top dollar is crazy IMO. I'd rather invest in a decent pass rush (not happy with us committing so much to DRC for instance)


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    #525
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users Posts: 17,329 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    malistheman wrote: »
    Lafell is nothing special. I watched every Panthers game this year and he never really stood out. The only reason we saw an increase in receptions was Steve Smith deteriorating to some extent. He really isn't worth the hassle.

    Very possibly but Brady and Belichick have spent their whole careers making average WR's look good. If he works hard and learns the playbook (not easy in NE) they will get him the ball. If he doesn't learn the offence inside out. He's toast. They will barely use him a la Chad Johnson.


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    #526
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but under the new CBA rookies can re-negotiate contracts after 3 years.

    I may be wrong, but I don't think rookies themselves can renegotiate contracts after year 3. But a franchise can extend if they so wish. I know that in year 3 of a 1st round draftee's contract, a franchise can activate a 5 year option which turns their 4 year contract into a 5 year deal. But say in a QB's case, they will have to pay him in year 5 the average pay of a top 10 QB. So Wilson's pay will shoot up in his fifth year. Assuming the franchise do not make an early move on a extension of course. All players drafted in rounds 1-2 get a 25% increase in pay for every year of their rookie contract.

    But all players drafted in rounds 3-7, their pay does not increase at 25% every year. But since the CBA standardised all perks & pay escalators. The only change for these players salaries after year 3 is, if they have played 35% of offensive/defensive snaps for their first three seasons. Then they get a salary in year 4, equivalent to that of a restricted free agent that plays their position.

    For undrafted rookie free agents, the CBA dictates they get a 3 year contract, with a minimum value of $1.44 million over the lifetime of that contract. A franchise can add in individual incentives into a UDFA contract, but they will still be financially worse off than their drafted colleagues.

    TL;DR? = Rookies can't instigate a renegotiation of their own contracts after 3 years. But the franchise can.


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    #527
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    I may be wrong, but I don't think rookies themselves can renegotiate contracts after year 3. But a franchise can extend if they so wish. I know that in year 3 of a 1st round draftee's contract, a franchise can activate a 5 year option which turns their 4 year contract into a 5 year deal. But say in a QB's case, they will have to pay him in year 5 the average pay of a top 10 QB. So Wilson's pay will shoot up in his fifth year. Assuming the franchise do not make an early move on a extension of course. All players drafted in rounds 1-2 get a 25% increase in pay for every year of their rookie contract.

    But all players drafted in rounds 3-7, their pay does not increase at 25% every year. But since the CBA standardised all perks & pay escalators. The only change for these players salaries after year 3 is, if they have played 35% of offensive/defensive snaps for their first three seasons. Then they get a salary in year 4, equivalent to that of a restricted free agent that plays their position.

    For undrafted rookie free agents, the CBA dictates they get a 3 year contract, with a minimum value of $1.44 million over the lifetime of that contract. A franchise can add in individual incentives into a UDFA contract, but they will still be financially worse off than their drafted colleagues.

    TL;DR? = Rookies can't instigate a renegotiation of their own contracts after 3 years. But the franchise can.


    Thanks Corvus.

    I wonder would the Seahawks risk letting Wilson's contract get into the final year. If he has another good year it would leave a pretty sour taste if he was made play the final year for buttons.


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    #528
    Son Of A Vidic
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    HigginsJ wrote: »
    I wonder would the Seahawks risk letting Wilson's contract get into the final year. If he has another good year it would leave a pretty sour taste if he was made play the final year for buttons.

    True and if they want to keep him, they'll need to tie him up before the 2015 season I reckon. His contract is due in 2016 and if they let his rookie contract play out, the guy might be pretty pissed enough take his services elsewhere.


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    #529
    SameOleJay
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SameOleJay


    I really can’t wait till Kaep, Wilson, Thomas et all are due their pay-days. The NFC will just be just farcically hard until then.


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    #530
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    They could let him play out his rookie deal, then franchise him for $16-18m which would give them 3 years at an outlay of about $6m or $7m per year. They could even franchise him a second time if they hadn't got a deal worked out by then. No panic getting a deal done in 2015 I don't think.


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    #531
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    adrian522 wrote: »
    They could let him play out his rookie deal, then franchise him for $16-18m which would give them 3 years at an outlay of about $6m or $7m per year. They could even franchise him a second time if they hadn't got a deal worked out by then. No panic getting a deal done in 2015 I don't think.

    Yeah both sides have a certain amount of leverage.


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    #532
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Thanks Corvus.

    I wonder would the Seahawks risk letting Wilson's contract get into the final year. If he has another good year it would leave a pretty sour taste if he was made play the final year for buttons.
    This question led me directly to thinking about Sanchise and what will happen with him.

    I can see Pete Carroll taking him as a backup if there is not much interest and he can get him cheap. He knows the guy very well obviously and having a very friendly QB system means he could work out there.

    Wilson has looked decent over the past two years but I can't help thinking that Carroll would prefer to not tie a lot of money down in a QB contract. Its the reason why they were able to hold onto a roster like they had last season.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens over the coming months.


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    #533
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Kenny Britt visiting the Bills... and Titans it seems..


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    #534
    TO.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    Just noticed Jared Allen left Seattle without accepting an offer. Apparently he is deciding what offer to accept over the weekend.


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    #535
    Paully D
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    Lance Moore to the Steelers, per La Canfora.


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    #536
    TO.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    Matt Schaub to Raiders for a 6th round pick this year


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    #537
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    TO. wrote: »
    Matt Schaub to Raiders for a 6th round pick this year

    First look at his jersey:

    BjRl5hFIEAASU_z.jpg


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    #538
    phatkev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Sanchez has been cut, not a surprise really


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    #539
    phatkev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭phatkev


    jaysus its all happening Jets just confirmed Vick has joined them


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    #540
    rockonollie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    phatkev wrote: »
    jaysus its all happening Jets just confirmed Vick has joined them

    That confirms it......career over


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    #541
    Phoenix Park
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    rockonollie wrote: »
    That confirms it......career over

    Geno's I assume? Vick must start surely. Smith is so bad I would cut losses on him already, having had the misfortune of seeing the guy play in the flesh. I think Vick will do well. Sneaky DeSean J trade now....?! Jets could be going places, and dat defence mmmmmm!


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