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Just 1 more trying to go sub 4
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I think the fact that I ran the Waterford half literally the day before starting this training block is what's easing my mind to a large degree. I ran that at 7:55 pace - so my MP of 8:35 feels relatively comfortable even during these higher mileage weeks.
My target in Cork last year was for 4 hours. It all went tits up spectacularly with injury and sickness the week before (not to mention the heat) but on a good day at that point I think I could have hit sub 4. My half time of 1:48 pointed to it. In the 5 months leading up to Cork last year I had run less than 500 miles. Starting from the same point (5 months out) I have already surpassed that by 90 miles - and still have 6.5 weeks training left. This is what I'm taking my hope from.
Note to self - read this post during taper.
That makes sense. I'm fairly keen to do a HM since my last HM was Patrick's day 2013 and that measured very short so I cant use that time (1:42:xx) as my official PB. last one before that was DUblin HM in Sept 2012 (1:56:xx) so I have a big chunk to take off that.
I suppose I should be hitting sub 1:45 to be on track for 3:45 in marathon?0 -
That makes sense. I'm fairly keen to do a HM since my last HM was Patrick's day 2013 and that measured very short so I cant use that time (1:42:xx) as my official PB. last one before that was DUblin HM in Sept 2012 (1:56:xx) so I have a big chunk to take off that.
I suppose I should be hitting sub 1:45 to be on track for 3:45 in marathon?
Yes sub 1;45 would give you a chance at your Goal but I expect you to go faster than that
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Tuesday 18/02
5.22 miles @ 9:13 pace
Up bright and early but had to pick up the pace during this or I would have been late for work. Best morning of the year so far for running.
The plan for tonight says 12 miles easy w/ strides. I think this was to accommodate people who were racing during DCM buildup. I was thinking of adding in some PMP miles to this to make it a bit more interesting. I'll see later though as I had a sharp pain in my knee this morning. Went for a walk around the business park and it seemed okay though. Maybe I just need to run on it more.
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What's the health update? Gone awful quiet over here!
Howdy RedRunner! To be honest it's been a disaster of a week. I was uut of work Monday feeling awful all day . I actually went running Wednesday night in the wind and rain and felt okay, but then I did 10 miles easy last night and was a bit shook after it to be honest. Feeling not too great this morning again and I'm caughing and spluttering. I think it might be a virus of some sort - the wife is in tatters at home, the young lad hasn't been in school since Tuesday and 2 of my nephews ended up in hospital. :rolleyes:
Bet you're sorry you asked!
I'll keep plugging away - it's a step back week anyway so I'll take it easy and hopefully be back fighting fit for the tough 3 weeks ahead.
All set for the spring (hah! what spring) half?0 -
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Howdy RedRunner! To be honest it's been a disaster of a week. I was uut of work Monday feeling awful all day . I actually went running Wednesday night in the wind and rain and felt okay, but then I did 10 miles easy last night and was a bit shook after it to be honest. Feeling not too great this morning again and I'm caughing and spluttering. I think it might be a virus of some sort - the wife is in tatters at home, the young lad hasn't been in school since Tuesday and 2 of my nephews ended up in hospital. :rolleyes:
Bet you're sorry you asked!
I'll keep plugging away - it's a step back week anyway so I'll take it easy and hopefully be back fighting fit for the tough 3 weeks ahead.
All set for the spring (hah! what spring) half?
Jeez. Sorry to hear that. A lot of bugs going around at the moment alright. Was a victim myself a few weeks back. Take it easy anyway and hope you get back on track next week.
I'm probably better prepared for this half than any I have ever done so expecting a big PB. A little worried that I might be putting myself under too much pressure to go sub 1:40 but sure I'll give it a go and be your "guinea pig";)
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I think you maybe answered your own question thereLooking for a bit of advice now... This bug seems to be setting in for the weekend (in bed at 10pm last night) so I'm thinking I should just write off the week. Would there be a benefit to doing my 13 mile LSR tomorrow or am I just putting the next 2 crucial weeks in jeopardy by doing so? I feel like ****e - but the fact that I can't run makes me feel worse.
Gah - everything was going too well! :mad: I would err on the side of caution and skip the 13m. I remember reading somewhere that runs over 90 minutes lower your immune system and you're not going to lose any fitness from one low mileage week. 0 -
career_move wrote: »I think you maybe answered your own question there I would err on the side of caution and skip the 13m. I remember reading somewhere that runs over 90 minutes lower your immune system and you're not going to lose any fitness from one low mileage week.
+1
Had similar issue few weeks ago. Only managed 10 miles for whole week. Skipped LSR to give myself some extra recovery time. The following two weeks did 55+ miles.
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I'm still not feeling 100% but I did 5 miles easy this morning before work. I'm also very bold because I did a 4 mile 'tempo' of sorts yesterday morning and by God it was not pretty.
Hopefully my head and chest will clear before Wednesday for the session. I might even leave the session till Thursday to be on the safe side.0 -
Feeling like ****e again today.
It's starting to worry me now that I'm not pulling out of this. I may need to look at Limerick or something as an alternative, if I don't get a decent weeks training in this week. I had my son at the doctor on Sunday day and asked him about the symptoms. He said it's defo a virus which could last from 10 days to 3 weeks. I think I'll try and train through it this week and see how it goes. I haven't been right since the Friday before my last LSR (the one I nearly collapsed after).
I've no idea what kind of a 'cutoff' date-wise I'm looking at, to keep Manchester a viable target...?0 -
Ok I know you're panicking a little bit about Manchester but be very careful about trying to train through a viral infection. It may not be the wisest course of action particularly when you're actually feeling really bad. There's always another marathon.Feeling like ****e again today.
It's starting to worry me now that I'm not pulling out of this. I may need to look at Limerick or something as an alternative, if I don't get a decent weeks training in this week. I had my son at the doctor on Sunday day and asked him about the symptoms. He said it's defo a virus which could last from 10 days to 3 weeks. I think I'll try and train through it this week and see how it goes. I haven't been right since the Friday before my last LSR (the one I nearly collapsed after).
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Cheers career_move,meno. I meant to get back to say thanks to ye earlier but work is absolutely up the walls at the moment - last minute bug fixes for a release that's been 8 months in the making... :rolleyes:
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I went for the 5 mile run last night and threw in a sneaky MP mile to see how it felt. I had no ill-effects this morning from doing this - so I decided I'd gamble and chance the session tonight. :eek:
It went pretty well and I managed to get 13 miles done with 10 at, or faster than MP. Head is still a bit cloudy - but my chest feels pretty okay, if not totally clear. Happy days so far, hopefully I won't be back to square one tomorrow!
This week so far is looking much better after yesterday/tonight.
Monday 03/03
5 miles @ 9:10 pace
Tuesday 04/03
5.2 miles @ 9:00 pace
Wednesday 05/03
13.05 miles w/ 10 @ MP
1.45 miles warm up
MP miles were:
8:34,8:28,8:22,8:21,8:16,8:21,8:17,8:21,8:07,8:08
1.6 miles cool down.
Here's hoping I don't pay for this tomorrow. Hopefully this hot whiskey will help. 0 -
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Not much different this morning. Drove down to Cork alright but after running up the stairs I'm a bit all over the place. Doctor tomorrow to get it checked if I can. He might tell me running will fix it.
Got an appt with my doctor for 11:15 tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed!0 -
Hurray!
Woke up feeling a bit better and the Doctor said I won't kill myself by running (although he'd rather I rested for a few days) and that the dizziness is from sinusitis. It's certainly not the worst bout of sinusitis I've had, but there's some ear action going on there also along with a post nasal drip. It seems to be a hangover from the viral infection... I've to take a weeks course of antibiotics and drink lots of fluids. Happy days. It's great having a doctor who has run marathons himself and gets the whole obsessive running/training thing.
Friday 07/03
5 miles @ 9:12 pace
Saturday 08/03
20.55 miles @ 9:14 pace
Very apprehensive about getting stuck into this run - and I'm working tonight/tomorrow for this software release in work so it was sh*t or get off the pot today. I've decided after today I'm not using gels during the marathon. I have used gels in my last 2 long runs - and in both I got what I can only describe as a sugar dip, about an hour after taking the gel. Today, I stopped for a few minutes and gathered myself before setting off again. I was fine then until the end of the run and finished strongly (a further 7ish miles).
Feel a bit woozy now - but defo not as bad as earlier in the week. Hopefully the week of medicine will sort this thing once and for all - but hey, I can't be too sick if I can run 20 miles eh...
49 miles for the week so far, will finish out with 4 or 5 easy tomorrow hopefully.
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career_move wrote: »If you're not using gels what is your marathon fueling plan going to look like?
I was going to rely on energy drinks and water / salt tabletsWhen you say you got a sugar dip an hour after taking a gel, did you not take another gel within that hour?
I can only assume you'd be planning to take a gel at least once an hour in the marathon which would surely negate this? (something to practise??).
I didn't - I just had the one, I hate the things to be honest. They don't sit right in my stomach. Maybe I do need to practice more maybe.
Would this be normal if you don't keep guzzling them back?0
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